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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SaintGnome My point is Mickey plays the CAP like a fiddle and he's fantastic at squeezing water from stone. Every year you see the reports on how up against the wall we are, yet Mickey always finds ...

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Old 03-20-2020, 12:14 PM   #41
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My point is Mickey plays the CAP like a fiddle and he's fantastic at squeezing water from stone. Every year you see the reports on how up against the wall we are, yet Mickey always finds a way to make moves and still bring in talent. That being said it seems to me that we usually just let talent leave without getting anything in return. How many probowl starters are on other teams that we just let walk? IMO this is a weakness in Mickey's game.

Again, there is nothing to get in return for Teddy leaving. As far as for Loomis making things work, to what end with Teddy? We do not need two starting QBs.


Now I am going to turn your argument back on you. Mickey Loomis took Drew Brees and not only made him a Pro-Bowl QB but Hall of fame, All Pro, Super Bowl winning QB... Mickey Loomis took Taysom Hill (whom no one wanted) and made him arguably worthy of a first round tender. Shall I continue?
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Old 03-20-2020, 02:54 PM   #42
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Again, there is nothing to get in return for Teddy leaving. As far as for Loomis making things work, to what end with Teddy? We do not need two starting QBs.


Now I am going to turn your argument back on you. Mickey Loomis took Drew Brees and not only made him a Pro-Bowl QB but Hall of fame, All Pro, Super Bowl winning QB... Mickey Loomis took Taysom Hill (whom no one wanted) and made him arguably worthy of a first round tender. Shall I continue?
To the first paragraph -Yes, I get there was nothing to get from Teddy but there could have been if we'd signed him to a 3 year deal instead of a 2 year in the first place. Maybe we should have thought ahead. Teams keep trading stuff for Nick Foles...others are doing it why can't we?

To the second paragraph, I'm not sure what you're arguing. I never said he couldn't spot or draft talent, just that we tend to let talent go without getting anything in return. I don't know how to say it another way.
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Old 03-20-2020, 04:55 PM   #43
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Love going look at the forum reaction. Pretty ruthless stuff but I needed a good laugh
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Old 03-20-2020, 07:41 PM   #44
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just that we tend to let talent go without getting anything in return. I don't know how to say it another way.
You can say it any way you like, none of the possible rewording options will make the desire even remotely logical. You want to take a trip around the world to cross the street.

Why do you expect to get something for something that you do not own or have any legal right to? To say you would sign him to a longer contract to 'get something for him' isn't getting something for him... You will get something for the couple of million you had to pay him for the extra year PLUS a couple more million to pay the new player.

Just let him walk as we have and use the money to get another player.

Do you rent a carpet cleaner for two days so that you can maybe get something back when you return it after the first day?

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Old 03-20-2020, 08:49 PM   #45
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You can say it any way you like, none of the possible rewording options will make the desire even remotely logical. You want to take a trip around the world to cross the street.

Why do you expect to get something for something that you do not own or have any legal right to? To say you would sign him to a longer contract to 'get something for him' isn't getting something for him... You will get something for the couple of million you had to pay him for the extra year PLUS a couple more million to pay the new player.

Just let him walk as we have and use the money to get another player.

Do you rent a carpet cleaner for two days so that you can maybe get something back when you return it after the first day?
Forget Teddy for a minute. I don't know why I'm bothering but here goes my last stab at it. Some teams, the Pats were mentioned by another poster, I mentioned Andy Reid, manage to trade a lot of players to get draft picks consistently instead of just letting them play out their contracts and walk. The Eagles and Pats always seemed to have tons of picks, they also had a lot of success. I would like to see Mickey adopt this philosophy. That's all.
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