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Okay, got the memo from the Black & Gold High Council - let's see those mocks from those of us who just know our publicly posted mocks will influence our beloved franchise...
Want to share using online mock draft engines? Try the original mock draft engine: Fanspeak.com On The Clock Simulator Or with trades: Fanspeak.com On The Clock Simulator Premium This one is pretty good: Draft Network Mock Draft Machine And it has a premium machine as well, also has an annual subscription... |
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JP's Black & Gold Mock 1.0
No. 24 (R1, 24) DE A.J. Epenesa, Iowa; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 275 lbs. No. 24 (R1, 24) WR Jalen Reagor, TCU; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 206 lbs. No. 56 (R2, 24) Traded to Miami Dolphins (C Erik McCoy) No. 56 (R2, 24) CB Cameron Dantzler, Mississippi St; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 250 lbs. No. 56 (R2, 24) DT Justin Madubuike, Texas A & M; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 293 lbs. No. 88 (R3, 24) WR Antonio Gibson, Memphis; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 228 lbs. No. 88 (R3, 24) RB A.J. Dillon, Boston College; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 247 lbs. No. 130 (R4, 24) TE Harrison Bryant, Florida Atl; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 243 lbs. No. 130 (R4, 24) CB Reggie Robinson, Tulsa; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 202 lbs. No. 169 (R5, 24) LG Ben Bredeson, Michigan; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 315 lbs. No. 169 (R5, 24) TE Colby Parkinson, Stanford; Height: 6' 7", Weight: 252 lbs. No. 203 (R6, 24) LB Tanner Muse, Clemson; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 227 lbs. No. 203 (R6, 24) WR Dezmon Patmon, Washington St; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 225 lbs. No. 238 (R7, 24) Traded to NY Giants (CB Eli Apple) No. 238 (R7, 24) RG Jon Runyan, Michigan; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 306 lbs. No. 238 (R7, 24) LB Jordan Mack, Virginia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 241 |
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CJ Henderson at 24
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Over the years I’ve realized that I have absolutely no idea what the Saints are going to do in the draft. This is mostly because we don’t draft BPA or draft for need. We have our “cloud” of players that we like for each pick and if it looks like those players won’t make it to our pick we trade up.
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Agree. I have no idea either. CJ is who I drafted in a mock.
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Sometime back I got called out here because I list as many as five players for each draft slot - I still do this; and now I'll share the background...
There are several reasons why many teams have evolved to doing this... First and foremost, if you like each of those players in your target range, or cloud, you won't be in a panic if your priority is scooped up in front of you... It's the same as having a pre-snap read and being able to go in a number of directions when the bullets are live; only instead of one opponent in a game, you're facing 32 in a draft... Second, you keep opponents from figuring out what you really plan to do come draft time as you've interviewed a no. of targets... Example, division opponents will work trades with other teams that have same needs as their opponents to keep players out of their division (Chiefs, Raiders 70s)... Third benefit is that you have scouted players intensely to the point that if you have to face them, you already have data, film with which to work... Also, should a player become a free agent, you already have the scouting to acquire that player we really liked for the Draft, but was too prohibitive a sacrifice to make it happen... Anyways, years ago, took an elective at Tulane in Sports Management and this is where learned some of this background in the draft process... |
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I’m starting to like the idea of taking Michigan center Cesar Ruiz and playing him at RG. Similar to how we took Ramczyk when Armstead and Strief were entrenched as the starters.
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Traded back from 24 with Bengals for 2/3/4 rounders. |
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The Saints have proven that you can get good skill position players after the first round. A couple of examples are Kamara and Thomas. Most teams are built with early to mid round talent but we know how to find early talent later in the draft. We've always fielded one or two UDFA's that showed out in their role with the team. |
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Now that Drew Brees has pretty much solidified his future in the broadcast booth we need to go all out for one last ride. Trade up for Justin Jefferson. In a draft like this full of uncertainty and an off-season without OTA’s or mini-camps, give Brees one more weapon who’s already familiar with our offense.
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Trading up for a WR in this draft would be stupid.
If you wanna go all out go get Everson Griffin and make sure there a pass rush outside of Cam Jordan |
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Queen is a safer pick in the second round... What service did you use? |
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Pass Rush has to be the priority in this draft - and not some stupid f*cking two first round picks to move up ten spots in the first round 'cause Shylene is waiting at home...
And if they weren't do social distancing, coaches and personnel staff should have to p*ss in cups same as players so they're not high when making moves... |
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Jefferson Murray If they’re gone, move back. I don’t want the boy from Iowa. He’s slow. |
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I’d be ok with AJ Epenesa, but I would also be concerned with his lack of bend and agility. He seems way better suited for playing 5-technique with occasional reps at 3-tech. I’d trust the coaches vision for him though if we took him.
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Trust the tape, not the underwear fashion show... From NFL Scouting Service... The size and production should force all evaluators to dial their focus in on what he's best at rather than any perceived areas of concern. He has average instincts against the run and is a step slow to shed, but he's strong at the point and he does his job. (He) won't just out-run tackles to the edge, but he's a skilled rusher whose diversity of attack, skilled hands and unique bull-rushing instincts could help him deliver his college sack production in the pros. He can play end in a 4-3 or 3-4 and could leap from good to great with additional work on technique and explosiveness. DE Cam Jordan, Cal; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 287 lbs.; 40 - 4.78 sec; Vertical - 31"; Broad Jump - 117" DE A. J. Epenesa, Iowa; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 275 lbs. 40 - 5.04 sec; Vertical - 32.5"; Broad Jump - 117" I'm not worried about the 40 - that's long speed and I don't want him chasing people down from behind; burst with power - that's in the Vertical and Broad Jump - that's what matters... And then of course, there's the production... (From NFL.com Epenesa was a three-time high school All-American and first-team All-State pick in football (wearing jersey No. 99 to emulate J.J. Watt), scored over 1,000 career points in basketball and won back-to-back state discus throw titles. Hawkeyes coaches put their highly regarded recruit in the rotation as a true freshman, and he recorded 15 tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss and 4.5 sacks in 13 games. Epenesa did not start any games in his sophomore season, either, behind veterans Parker Hesse and Anthony Nelson. He still garnered second-team All-Big Ten honors, though, by leading the Big Ten with 10.5 sacks and topping Iowa's defense with 16.5 tackles for loss (among 37 total) and four forced fumbles. As a junior, Epenesa came on strong at the end of the year, receiving second-team Associated Press All-American and first-team all-conference accolades with 49 tackles, 14.5 for loss, and 11.5 sacks along with four forced fumbles in 13 starts. And the film (see highlights)... This shows him as a Freshman, Sophmore, more This is his 2019 Season along... I'd also add that he has the versatility to kick inside to the 3T, as there's some film of this against offensive linemen to be in the NFL... |
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I'll sit back and trust the drafting process.
The Saints draft picks as a whole over the last 3-4 years have been impressive. All one can hope for is a quality starter at pick #24. If we somehow land an elite player (see C Jordan, Ryan Ramz) in the 1st, so be it. Lagniappe. |
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We’ll be getting a 3rd round comp pick for Bridgewater next year so I would offer the Jags a 2021 3rd rounder to move up to 20 ahead of the Eagles for Justin Jefferson.
Just because it’s a deep WR class doesn’t mean the right guy who can come in and be productive will be available if we sit back and wait. |
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WR Jalen Reagor held a virtual pro day and ran a hand-timed 4.22 forty. If you account for the normal 0.15 reaction time that puts him around 4.37. He weighed in 10 lbs lighter than at the combine so this is probably more indicative of his speed.
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I would rather have Tee Higgins in the 1st, Colston's clone. I would also find a way to pick up a 7th for Juwan Johnson from Oregon to stach back if possible.
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Matt Peart OT Conn.(steal) should be there in the 3rd when we pick , along with Albert Okwuegbunam TE in the 4th. Both these to go along with Higgins opens this O completely up for whatever Payton can scheme up. All Brees has to do is deliver the ball.Keshawn Vaughn RB added in the 5th and were just about impossible to stop. Deep ball, 2 TE set, 3 headed running attack, slot, screen, it's all there when wanted.
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I read a speculative article on trading Kamara, #24 and a future pick to get #3 from Detroit.
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The more I read, the more that I want to draft a tight end this year and I wouldn't mind using an early mid round pick for the right player. The two tight end set is ideal for Drew since his deep balls are questionable now. It happens when people get older but there is still no one better at the game. Sanders will help with the underneath stuff as well.
I still want a lineman with our first pick if the value is there. I'd prefer to move a mobile tackle inside to play guard if one is available. If not I've read about several mid round projects that might work in our system. |
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Kamara and 24 for 3 and a 6th. |
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One week from the draft and Mel Kiper’s Mock Draft 4.0 has the Saints selecting... Clemson CB AJ Terrell. Not a bad pick. He struggled against Ja’Marr Chase in the National Championship but who didn’t last season?
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Not implying you are not intelligent, shawnkytonk. I was referring to the pundits coming up with these crazy scenarios. |
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FTR.....I'm not a Tua believer, and his injuries just help cement that. I'm assuming that's who the person whose coming up with these scenarios would predict us to pick. |
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Grady Jarrett and Javon Kinlaw next to each other? Oh boy, thank goodness we have Andrus Peat. :rolleyes: |
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Virtual draft begins on 4/23/20.
Only one week away. |
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