Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

~ Mike Triplett

METAIRIE, La. -- Although the first big wave of free-agent spending has passed in the NFL, the New Orleans Saints' biggest financial decision of the offseason is still looming.

Running back Alvin Kamara is heading into the final year of his rookie contract at the bargain rate of $2.133 million. So it seems inevitable that he will push for a long-term contract extension this summer.


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Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Well the markets just been set

McCaffrey 4 year 64ml extension. 16ml a year.
Kamara going to want similar. Go back to a 3vheaded monster like 2009-2011

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Why would he want similar? He hasn't shown he can take that workload, nor has he had similar production. His agent can't be that stupid. Melvin Gordon just got 8 mil a year. I could see AK getting 10+ mil a year plus more in incentives. He's worth that and deserves it.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

We spent 50+ mil on Andrus Peat. Regardless of how much we think someone is worth, if Payton likes them, he'll want to pay them.

I personally think it's a bad idea, but unfortunately guys like Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas dont grow on trees.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Neither do Alvin Kamara's. Before last year's injury, he was looking like the second coming of Gayle Sayers. That doesn't happen. I really want to see what he looks like this year if he's really 100%.

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Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

He’ll have a career year. Why? Contract year.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

His Agent will be asking for at least 14/15ml

Kamara played 3 games less

McCaffrey - Kamara

CMC numbers first

Rushing yards:
2,920 - 2408

Rushing average:
4.7 - 5.0

Rushing touchdowns:
24 - 27

Receptions:
303 - 243

Receiving yards:
2,523 - 2068

Receiving touchdowns:
15 - 10

Return yards:
220 - 585 (1TD)

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

We signed Peat for $33MM guaranteed. Not 50.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Will he hold out? That's the real question. I would.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

It would be a mistake to pay more than 10m per year. RBs are a product of the system and O line. Also, they are often injured and rarely come back from injuries well.

That all said, we just signed Peat to the single dumbest contract I have seen so anything can happen.

Edit:
Others posted about RBs not growing on trees... I’d disagree with that for Payton. He knows how to scheme and be effective with any RB. Outside of 2010 (injuries) when have we had poor RBs? You all remember K. Robinson right? People compared home to Curtis Martin lol... he sucked when he left.

I appreciate AK, but he isn’t worth losing another good vital player in order to pay him.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Cmc was the only weapon Carolina had so I believe his stats are gorilla over kamara


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Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Well based on AK's production in 2019, the Saints front office brass should allow him to play out 2020 (assuming we do have a season) for his cap hit of 2M, then reassess his worth in a year when you have the option to let him hit Free Agency, franchise him or extend.

He will eventually get paid, however not C McCaffery type coin.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

So when you combine the TDs, CMC leads in every category outside of return yds. But stats aren't the whole story here. There is much more telling data.

I'd be willing to give this more credit if Kamara had ever been an MVP candidate.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Great question. I would too. Especially as a running back. This is his only chance at a big payday.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

I would trade him or let him play out his contract. He's not a #1 rb( Derick Henry type bell cow back) and if Payton uses him that way he's going to get hurt. There are some really good backs in the draft this year and picking up one would go a long way for production and money. If Kamara would want top money it would be a huge mistake to give it to him.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Double edged sword..

-Let him play his tail off for the new contract and we reap the rewards.

-He goes off and we have to break the bank.


Paytons belief in #41's gridiron IQ is why we do everything to keep him.Sean will go to bat heavily on this one I'm thinking...
Then Mickey weighs it out and capitalizes somehow.

Could be a shocker draft day..

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Then he'll hold out. And I can't argue with him.... $2MM is not enough for how much he's involved in the offense.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Ask the rams how they feel about paying for gurley now? Was he hurt or made a business decision is not what I’m saying , like someone said above he’s not a bell cow but part of a scheme. Kamara that is.Bell cows should get paid. People want to pay huge contacts to players that run off the field after every 2 plays . To me AK has been half asred figured out. My Analytics say Kamara gets the ball 75% of the time when he’s (in) the game . Take him out and you will force a punt.


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Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

My point isn't Kamara has better stats but they are not far off. The idea he plays for 10ml in a world McCaffrey gets 16ml is silly.

Also the WR Caroline have getting no respect when saying CMC is only weapon. DJ Moore and Curtis Samuel are both very good players

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Que Sera, Sera.

What will be will be.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

So you think AK will hold out ? … in a contract year?

If he feels he should command top dollar, I would think he'll report to camp, ball out and look forward to a huge payday in 2021.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

He holds out he’s traded ...

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

You tell 'em Doris. :wink:

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Pretty much. Any claims that he'll be traded, holds out, balls out, etcetera, is nothing more than conjecture.

Just wait and see. I'll throw one out there. He gets extended prior to the season and we go on to win Lombardi II.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Had a crush on her when I was a kid.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

I was referring to the total price of the contract, 57.5 mil.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

but if you take off 2017 and only evaluate the past two years, there is no comparison. CMc leads by a wide margin in all categories, including yards from scrimmage by almost 1400 yards

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

CMC has proven to be able to handle a full workload, Kamara got hurt when his usage went up. He is worth around 10m nothing more.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

That is meaningless. Only the guaranteed amount matters. Total numbers only apply to "blow up the skirt" of the player. They rarely ever come to fruition.

And even "guaranteed" amounts are not chiseled in stone as some only become "guaranteed" if the player is still on the roster.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

I'm thinking more of 7 to 9 mil max.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Pffft..........you might not like it, but he's worth more that that. Devonta Freeman made over 8 last year. Melvin Gordon is making 8 mil per the next 2 seasons guaranteed. He's far better than either of those guys.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

On the flipside I don't think he's worth Drake money 8.5 or Henry at 10.5. Not better than Cook in Minny either. Tried that experiment and didn't work, Kamara isn't a 3 down back. More of a specialty role from what I see. Gonna depend on the worth of that role.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Aren't there significant fines for each practise a player holds out off under the new CBA?!

I think I heard it being mentioned somewhere - that it was a real deterrant now under the new CBA.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Sorry but that is an incorrect assumption. In 2019 he did not exceed 2018 snap counts, carries or receptions which negates utilization as an injury driver.

He had knee issues in college but last season was a high ankle sprain.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

People forget he missed games, played injured, and still had 1000k all purpose yards. It’s not like he outright sucked.
He’s no MaCaffery but he’s damn important to our team.
It all depends on what other teams are going to give up.
I think it’s way more likely they sign him if this is in fact Drew’s last season.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

I believe that Christian McCaffrey reset the bar and Alvin wants to high jump over the bar. On social media it looks like he's getting ready for a big pay day. However, nothing looks right on social media. Social media is the scourge of modern day civilization!

Anyway, I hope we keep AK. He's fun as hell to watch especially before he gets hurt which limits his explosiveness.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

I would not touch him until the end of the year. Make him earn that big check. If he wants to move on after a big year then tag him and make someone pay for him.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Definitely worth more than Drake. Henry is debatable. He didn't break out until this past year honestly. Cook is a beast, but he has problems staying healthy.

Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision
 

Sanders will help open things up for Kamara. I believe a lot of the issues last year were lack of options for Brees.