Will Saints draft from LSU?

st thomas · 04-17-2020, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Mayock use to say it best, the NFL combine is for confirmation, not evaluation. Athletic testing numbers shouldn’t be served as the basis for validation of a player’s talent.

I’d love him on - who- Lee-000 his length would be a staple along with his speed I see your input he’s a special talent I think

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papz · 04-17-2020, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Mayock use to say it best, the NFL combine is for confirmation, not evaluation. Athletic testing numbers shouldn’t be served as the basis for validation of a player’s talent.

I don't disagree.

Testing at the combine would have confirmed his elite athleticism. He's already shown to be an elite talent when fully healthy. That's already been validated.

shawnkytonk · 04-17-2020, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

There’s a rumor out there that the Eagles are trying very hard to trade up and get CeeDee Lamb. I really hope it’s true because Jefferson is my #1 choice.

Well, if Ruggs is gone before 15, don't be surprised if Denver takes Jefferson. There's been a ton of talk about the Broncos really liking Jefferson over the past 2 weeks.

ScottF · 04-17-2020, 08:43 PM

I never understood the obsession and perceived shunning of LSU players.
Is there any pro team that uses a local college as a pipeline?

small sample size, but for what it's worth:
There were 53 All-Pro selections including 2nd team and ST. Exactly one was drafted by a team in the same state where he attended college.

Rugby Saint II · 04-18-2020, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Really, who cares? Why is everyone so obsessed with drafting LSU players?Ireland and Payton will pick players best suited to our needs or BPA. He’s not going to pass on someone better just for the sake of having an LSU player on the team.

I think that you are missing the point Dude! It's an old joke around here that Payton refuses to draft anyone from the LSU program since he's been coaching the Saints. There have been good players over the years and I don't know if they didn't fit the system or if he's just prejudiced.

LSU won the National Championship and is loaded with talented players who will likely fit our system. I believe that their head coach(Ed Orgeron?) was an assistant with the Saints and comes from the Payton coaching tree. So, it's quite likely there are numerous LSU prospects on our draft board.

Let's not forget the Ohio State connection though....the force is strong with that One university.

skymike · 04-21-2020, 06:35 AM

I hear sometimes here, from some posters that Sean Payton has an apparent
tendency to not draft from LSU, which might make sense. It seems there could be a potential distraction, and unrealistic expectations, not to mention the perceived "entourage" effect, from having your old friends nearby.

Is this real? I'd like to know.

st thomas · 04-21-2020, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

I hear sometimes here, from some posters that Sean Payton has an apparent
tendency to not draft from LSU, which might make sense. It seems there could be a potential distraction, and unrealistic expectations, not to mention the perceived "entourage" effect, from having your old friends nearby.

Is this real? I'd like to know.

Good question SM I just like to biotch and moan for the thought that he just don’t like the Tigers of LSU but I really don’t think there’s anything behind this. But I I’m telling u if he don’t take Justin Jefferson if he’s there I’m not going to his birthday party this year.

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Halo · 04-21-2020, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

I never understood the obsession and perceived shunning of LSU players.
Is there any pro team that uses a local college as a pipeline?

small sample size, but for what it's worth:
There were 53 All-Pro selections including 2nd team and ST. Exactly one was drafted by a team in the same state where he attended college.

I've seen the Saints skip over LSU players in the draft and post draft undrafted free agency and pick other players who didn't make the team, but the LSU players they skipped went on to strong, lengthy careers. In some ways, we have a blind spot to LSU talent. Nobody is saying it should be a feeder for the Saints, but LSU players shouldn't be discounted because they grew up within an hour of where the Saints are located.

st thomas · 04-21-2020, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

I've seen the Saints skip over LSU players in the draft and post draft undrafted free agency and pick other players who didn't make the team, but the LSU players they skipped went on to strong, lengthy careers. In some ways, we have a blind spot to LSU talent. Nobody is saying it should be a feeder for the Saints, but LSU players shouldn't be discounted because they grew up within an hour of where the Saints are located.

There’s a sure thing LSU produces its speed all over the field and that produces success in today’s NFL.

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Budsdrinker · 04-21-2020, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

I've seen the Saints skip over LSU players in the draft and post draft undrafted free agency and pick other players who didn't make the team, but the LSU players they skipped went on to strong, lengthy careers. In some ways, we have a blind spot to LSU talent. Nobody is saying it should be a feeder for the Saints, but LSU players shouldn't be discounted because they grew up within an hour of where the Saints are located.

Which players were skipped with same round grades? Just curious.

04-17-2020, 11:41 AM	#11
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Will Saints draft from LSU? Originally Posted by K Major Mayock use to say it best, the NFL combine is for confirmation, not evaluation. Athletic testing numbers shouldn’t be served as the basis for validation of a player’s talent. I’d love him on - who- Lee-000 his length would be a staple along with his speed I see your input he’s a special talent I think Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,682	Re: Will Saints draft from LSU? Originally Posted by K Major Mayock use to say it best, the NFL combine is for confirmation, not evaluation. Athletic testing numbers shouldn’t be served as the basis for validation of a player’s talent. I don't disagree. Testing at the combine would have confirmed his elite athleticism. He's already shown to be an elite talent when fully healthy. That's already been validated. SmashMouth likes this.

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shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 736	Re: Will Saints draft from LSU? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI There’s a rumor out there that the Eagles are trying very hard to trade up and get CeeDee Lamb. I really hope it’s true because Jefferson is my #1 choice. Well, if Ruggs is gone before 15, don't be surprised if Denver takes Jefferson. There's been a ton of talk about the Broncos really liking Jefferson over the past 2 weeks. ChrisXVI likes this.

04-17-2020, 08:43 PM	#14
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Will Saints draft from LSU? I never understood the obsession and perceived shunning of LSU players. Is there any pro team that uses a local college as a pipeline? small sample size, but for what it's worth: There were 53 All-Pro selections including 2nd team and ST. Exactly one was drafted by a team in the same state where he attended college. AsylumGuido likes this.

04-18-2020, 06:48 PM	#15
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,727	Re: Will Saints draft from LSU? Originally Posted by The Dude Really, who cares? Why is everyone so obsessed with drafting LSU players?Ireland and Payton will pick players best suited to our needs or BPA. He’s not going to pass on someone better just for the sake of having an LSU player on the team. I think that you are missing the point Dude! It's an old joke around here that Payton refuses to draft anyone from the LSU program since he's been coaching the Saints. There have been good players over the years and I don't know if they didn't fit the system or if he's just prejudiced. LSU won the National Championship and is loaded with talented players who will likely fit our system. I believe that their head coach(Ed Orgeron?) was an assistant with the Saints and comes from the Payton coaching tree. So, it's quite likely there are numerous LSU prospects on our draft board. Let's not forget the Ohio State connection though....the force is strong with that One university. ScottF and SmashMouth like this.
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skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Will Saints draft from LSU? I hear sometimes here, from some posters that Sean Payton has an apparent tendency to not draft from LSU, which might make sense. It seems there could be a potential distraction, and unrealistic expectations, not to mention the perceived "entourage" effect, from having your old friends nearby. Is this real? I'd like to know. st thomas likes this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Will Saints draft from LSU? Originally Posted by skymike I hear sometimes here, from some posters that Sean Payton has an apparent tendency to not draft from LSU, which might make sense. It seems there could be a potential distraction, and unrealistic expectations, not to mention the perceived "entourage" effect, from having your old friends nearby. Is this real? I'd like to know. Good question SM I just like to biotch and moan for the thought that he just don’t like the Tigers of LSU but I really don’t think there’s anything behind this. But I I’m telling u if he don’t take Justin Jefferson if he’s there I’m not going to his birthday party this year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-21-2020, 09:37 AM	#18
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,209 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Will Saints draft from LSU? Originally Posted by ScottF I never understood the obsession and perceived shunning of LSU players. Is there any pro team that uses a local college as a pipeline? small sample size, but for what it's worth: There were 53 All-Pro selections including 2nd team and ST. Exactly one was drafted by a team in the same state where he attended college. I've seen the Saints skip over LSU players in the draft and post draft undrafted free agency and pick other players who didn't make the team, but the LSU players they skipped went on to strong, lengthy careers. In some ways, we have a blind spot to LSU talent. Nobody is saying it should be a feeder for the Saints, but LSU players shouldn't be discounted because they grew up within an hour of where the Saints are located. st thomas and K Major like this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Will Saints draft from LSU? Originally Posted by Halo I've seen the Saints skip over LSU players in the draft and post draft undrafted free agency and pick other players who didn't make the team, but the LSU players they skipped went on to strong, lengthy careers. In some ways, we have a blind spot to LSU talent. Nobody is saying it should be a feeder for the Saints, but LSU players shouldn't be discounted because they grew up within an hour of where the Saints are located. There’s a sure thing LSU produces its speed all over the field and that produces success in today’s NFL. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Halo likes this.

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Will Saints draft from LSU? Originally Posted by Halo I've seen the Saints skip over LSU players in the draft and post draft undrafted free agency and pick other players who didn't make the team, but the LSU players they skipped went on to strong, lengthy careers. In some ways, we have a blind spot to LSU talent. Nobody is saying it should be a feeder for the Saints, but LSU players shouldn't be discounted because they grew up within an hour of where the Saints are located. Which players were skipped with same round grades? Just curious. ScottF likes this.