USA Today/Saints Wire: Sean Payton on Saints' need at LB: 'We've got to fill that some way, shape or form'

K Major · 04-24-2020, 09:07 AM

The Saints will bring in a veteran LB at some point.

I'm ok with not selecting Murray @ 24. There are tons of dawgs at linebacker taken in the middle rounds. See the Niners roster at LB.

Don't forget Golden, Olgetree, Matthews are still out there.

jeanpierre · 04-24-2020, 09:22 AM

While we're okay at Linebacker, I'm still more concerned about Defensive End and not having one available opposite Cam Jordan come playoff time...

spkb25 · 04-24-2020, 09:45 AM

This comparison is ugly

"Zone Cover Ability: Solid zone coverage player in simple responsibilities at this time, but more will be needed from him in the league. Controlled and fluid in most of his drops, though he can get suckered in by backfield action/QB eyes and get happy feet, squaring himself to the line of scrimmage. Does not yet have good instincts for routes developing behind him and will unintentionally overlap with his teammates, exposing players in space. Struggles mightily to recover after play-action gets him into the backfield. Experience needed here.

Round Grade: Incomplete

Best Trait: Range

Worst Trait: Decision-Making

Player Comparison: Stephone Anthony

Summary: Kenneth Murray is a Day 2 linebacker prospect with a higher ceiling in a different scheme. Behind the slanting front of Alex Grinch and against complex, pulling Big 12 offenses, Murray struggled to generate a high impact play between the tackles, as he was frequently scraping and working to redirect his momentum into the backfield. Murray projects best to a 3-4 SILB or 4-3 SAM role, that allows him to play directly downhill into the trees and blow up blockers, while making strong plays into the boundary with his unique speed and length at his size. Murray is a high upside prospect if deployed correctly, and is a candidate for Year 2 starting responsibilities if he improves his zone coverage drops."

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/k...ray/W1S3OeCg1p

RefsRobbedUs · 04-24-2020, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

This comparison is ugly

"Zone Cover Ability: Solid zone coverage player in simple responsibilities at this time, but more will be needed from him in the league. Controlled and fluid in most of his drops, though he can get suckered in by backfield action/QB eyes and get happy feet, squaring himself to the line of scrimmage. Does not yet have good instincts for routes developing behind him and will unintentionally overlap with his teammates, exposing players in space. Struggles mightily to recover after play-action gets him into the backfield. Experience needed here.

Round Grade: Incomplete

Best Trait: Range

Worst Trait: Decision-Making

Player Comparison: Stephone Anthony

Summary: Kenneth Murray is a Day 2 linebacker prospect with a higher ceiling in a different scheme. Behind the slanting front of Alex Grinch and against complex, pulling Big 12 offenses, Murray struggled to generate a high impact play between the tackles, as he was frequently scraping and working to redirect his momentum into the backfield. Murray projects best to a 3-4 SILB or 4-3 SAM role, that allows him to play directly downhill into the trees and blow up blockers, while making strong plays into the boundary with his unique speed and length at his size. Murray is a high upside prospect if deployed correctly, and is a candidate for Year 2 starting responsibilities if he improves his zone coverage drops."

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/k...ray/W1S3OeCg1p

i was about to say sounds like stephone anthony then i scrolled down

Rugby Saint II · 04-28-2020, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

i was about to say sounds like stephone anthony then i scrolled down

God! I hope not! Anthony was here for a 3-4 defense I believe and was a huge bust in the 4-3. I don't think that he's that smart either and that could explain his gaffes.

K Major · 04-28-2020, 10:43 AM

What I like about Baun's tape is that he doesn't miss a lot of open field tackles and also excels as a pass rusher.

If he stays healthy, he helps us tremendously at linebacker.

Good middle round draft pick.

04-24-2020, 09:07 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,742 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Sean Payton on Saints' need at LB: 'We've got to fill that some way, shape or form' The Saints will bring in a veteran LB at some point. I'm ok with not selecting Murray @ 24. There are tons of dawgs at linebacker taken in the middle rounds. See the Niners roster at LB. Don't forget Golden, Olgetree, Matthews are still out there. jeanpierre likes this.

04-24-2020, 09:22 AM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Sean Payton on Saints' need at LB: 'We've got to fill that some way, shape or form' *While we're okay at Linebacker, I'm still more concerned about Defensive End and not having one available* opposite Cam Jordan come playoff time...** Beastmode likes this.

04-24-2020, 09:45 AM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Sean Payton on Saints' need at LB: 'We've got to fill that some way, shape or form' This comparison is ugly "Zone Cover Ability: Solid zone coverage player in simple responsibilities at this time, but more will be needed from him in the league. Controlled and fluid in most of his drops, though he can get suckered in by backfield action/QB eyes and get happy feet, squaring himself to the line of scrimmage. Does not yet have good instincts for routes developing behind him and will unintentionally overlap with his teammates, exposing players in space. Struggles mightily to recover after play-action gets him into the backfield. Experience needed here. Round Grade: Incomplete Best Trait: Range Worst Trait: Decision-Making Player Comparison: Stephone Anthony Summary: Kenneth Murray is a Day 2 linebacker prospect with a higher ceiling in a different scheme. Behind the slanting front of Alex Grinch and against complex, pulling Big 12 offenses, Murray struggled to generate a high impact play between the tackles, as he was frequently scraping and working to redirect his momentum into the backfield. Murray projects best to a 3-4 SILB or 4-3 SAM role, that allows him to play directly downhill into the trees and blow up blockers, while making strong plays into the boundary with his unique speed and length at his size. Murray is a high upside prospect if deployed correctly, and is a candidate for Year 2 starting responsibilities if he improves his zone coverage drops." https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/k...ray/W1S3OeCg1p
	Your team stinks

04-24-2020, 10:14 AM	#4
RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Sean Payton on Saints' need at LB: 'We've got to fill that some way, shape or form' Originally Posted by spkb25 This comparison is ugly "Zone Cover Ability: Solid zone coverage player in simple responsibilities at this time, but more will be needed from him in the league. Controlled and fluid in most of his drops, though he can get suckered in by backfield action/QB eyes and get happy feet, squaring himself to the line of scrimmage. Does not yet have good instincts for routes developing behind him and will unintentionally overlap with his teammates, exposing players in space. Struggles mightily to recover after play-action gets him into the backfield. Experience needed here. Round Grade: Incomplete Best Trait: Range Worst Trait: Decision-Making Player Comparison: Stephone Anthony Summary: Kenneth Murray is a Day 2 linebacker prospect with a higher ceiling in a different scheme. Behind the slanting front of Alex Grinch and against complex, pulling Big 12 offenses, Murray struggled to generate a high impact play between the tackles, as he was frequently scraping and working to redirect his momentum into the backfield. Murray projects best to a 3-4 SILB or 4-3 SAM role, that allows him to play directly downhill into the trees and blow up blockers, while making strong plays into the boundary with his unique speed and length at his size. Murray is a high upside prospect if deployed correctly, and is a candidate for Year 2 starting responsibilities if he improves his zone coverage drops." https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/k...ray/W1S3OeCg1p i was about to say sounds like stephone anthony then i scrolled down
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04-28-2020, 10:06 AM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Sean Payton on Saints' need at LB: 'We've got to fill that some way, shape or form' Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs i was about to say sounds like stephone anthony then i scrolled down God! I hope not! Anthony was here for a 3-4 defense I believe and was a huge bust in the 4-3. I don't think that he's that smart either and that could explain his gaffes.

04-28-2020, 10:43 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,742 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Sean Payton on Saints' need at LB: 'We've got to fill that some way, shape or form' What I like about Baun's tape is that he doesn't miss a lot of open field tackles and also excels as a pass rusher. If he stays healthy, he helps us tremendously at linebacker. Good middle round draft pick.

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