Sean Payton links upcoming election to needed change
 

Most members of the NFL community who have spoken out about recent events have done so apolitically, giving statements that don’t mention any particular election or elected official. Saints coach Sean Payton has made a different kind of statement.

Payton today posted two pictures on Twitter, one of George Floyd and one of Ahmaud Arbery, and wrote a brief statement that referenced the upcoming election.

“Were Murdered not Killed on Video. How many have we not seen? 22 weeks from today for change,” Payton wrote.

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Sean Payton is comically ignorant. I have zero respect left for him.

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Do we agree that the areas minorities are in have been targeted and police abuse occurs in those areas (as it does in others to a lesser extent)?

Keep in mind those areas, have been governed by democrats for 60+ years. If people want change, they need to vote for different local politicians.

Minneapolis:
Mayor- Democrat
City council- Democrat
DA- Democrat
Governor- Democrat

It's been that way for decades... and their answer... keep voting for the same thing. It's no different around other metro-cities.

So, I agree with Sean if he is talking about real change that matters, but he isn't and doesn't really care.

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Sean Sean Sean. You need to stick to football and keep your ****in mouth shut about anything and everything else.

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This should go well.

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Unfortunately, we can't elect policemen.

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By that reasoning Trayvon Martin & Michael Brown were Obama's fault.

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Like a turd in a punch bowl.

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I'm sure I'm not the only one who can say the same about you.

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All things considered, that would get screwed up as well.

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Coming from one of the most ignorant and annoying people on this board, that's rich.

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I'm not bothered by Payton's tweet. I haven't been a social media person for years now.

My spirit is tired, real tired, of dissecting messages and nit picking each other. My heart is too heavy for the people and small businesses who find themselves in ruins right now. Find common ground, push for reform, find a way to unclog our constipated justice system.

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For those who care to educate themselves on the real numbers (scientific method)...

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False on both accusations.

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I invite you to give an example of my "ignorance". And please note that disagreeing with me and resorting to ad hominem attacks is not equal to evidence, or anything remotely credible. For every 1,000 words I type out to make my arguments, you offer about five words. And none of them address any point.

You want to have your opinion heard? Learn to speak like an adult.

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I was referring more to the respect aspect, but ignorant works as well. There's no need in defending myself of your false accusations honestly. I would just rather not see your posts anymore. I guess it's time to find and use the ignore function if there is one. Making a point using 1000 words doesn't make you anymore of an adult than myself. Logic and simplicity seem to work out fine using few words. I did get a good laugh out of your elitist mindset.

Goodbye...

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Smash whistling..."Hey fellas. I found this grenade...oops...the pin fell out..."

Lol

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I've experienced it from the bad cop side.

Knew a fanatical racist who became a member of the NOPD.

No way in hell this guy should have been a policeman

He was.

His career ended the way you'd expect a racist cop in New Orleans would. Not from an Internal Affairs investigation but by his pulling the trigger.

It's obvious the police can't police themselves. Until some external mechanism is put in place to weed out bad cops the murder of innocent people will continue.

As for Paytons comments, he didn't know or couldn't control members of his own staff.

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Awww, the poor widdle ignorant baby can't actually justify his previous post so he spouts off a couple of recycled garbage talking points about respect and elitism.

Here are a few simple and logical words for you. Every non football related thing you post is a dumpster fire full of bull****. As are most of your football related posts honestly. There are a lot of people on here who I disagree with about a lot of things, but I still don't mind talking with them or seeing their posts. Then there's you. The sight of your screen name makes me nauseous in and of itself. Your posts reek of the same elitism you accuse burn of, and you are probably the most mean spirited person on this forum when you disagree with someone. I've seen plenty of people have plenty of disagreements and still remain pretty civil, not so with you. You are everything that's wrong with the world today, and I wish you'd **** off over to saintsreport with the rest of the trolls... Whew, that feels better. Mods, I'm sorry about this, but this guy has made my skin crawl since the day he showed up and I've had it.

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Honestly I am not sure what I would do in Sean Payton's position, if I were my initial inclination would be to focus on my job and not get involved.

But..

Scrolling through social media I can tell that 80% of my players, people that look up to me, are being effected by this issue and every other posting is a molested martin Luther King Jr. quote echoing that "silence is compliance".
His move was tactical and well played given the presumption that saying nothing means he is okay with all of it.

His comment is valid, the only way to change the system is to vote differently. He did not target anyone that he had to deal with locally which is smart, instead he targeted someone that was insignificant in the grand scheme of things but still pointed the finger at the system.

Because it is the system isn't it? There are 1000 +/- civilians shot to death by police every year and assuming human error factor of at least 5% that equates to 50 bad shootings per year. Since 2005 only 35 officers have been convicted for fatal shootings. Police Chiefs cant fire, DA's don't Prosecute, Judges don't convict, and Mayors turn a blind eye. What is the missing factor? Unions Reps are the first thing a cop asks for, they provide counsel and have the power (votes) to pressure the elected officials.

Politicians and the media want you to miss the Forrest for the trees.

Note: I say insignificant because the POTUS is not supposed to be involved in matters of the sate and he need to go in his closet and shut up.

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Let me see if I can break down your post: You don't actually have an example of my "ignorance", but you instead believe that I am disrespectful now? And this coming from the person who consistently resorts to personal attacks, while I've done nothing of the sort to you? In other words, if I don't agree with you, I'm disrespectful? And you are not? Interesting.

And I don't type a thousand words to make one point. I said "for every thousand words I type to make my arguments, you offer about five words". That's called a ratio. Ever heard of that? Oops, I guess my "elitism" is showing, huh? Which brings me to my next point. There is nothing "elitist" about stating facts and requesting that my counterpart do the same. The fact that you had to crawfish and make yet another blind accusation, is all anyone on this board needed to see to know what you're about. But then, they already knew this. Meanwhile, myself and others take the time and make the effort to make reasoned points, with context and factual information. Your issue is that if someone goes over your head, they are "elitist". That's pretty sad.

By the way, I didn't make any "accusations" about you. I didn't say anything about you that isn't universally known by anyone who has ever seen your posts, and your attitude.

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LOLOLOL........well I ain't going anywhere chief. I guess it's a younger generational thing of not being able to handle an argument on your own. I really don't care what some random on the internet thinks about me. High school was almost 30 years ago now. That's about the last time I cared what someone thought about me. Everything in your post couldn't be more false. Opinions don't equate to reality. Got to love a personal vendetta against someone you don't know. Oh the irony of calling me a baby. If you don't like my posts, I suggest you use the ignore feature. It's pretty easy to find. I used it last night. I enjoyed the laugh though.

Good day

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Good points, Oak. And who's to say that Payton isn't posturing to uber-talented free agent players that might accept playing for a team that offers less money so that he can play for a coach that's on "his side" politically speaking.

Perhaps it's not fair to assume that of Sean Payton but the idea is not unheard of.

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Great idea to stay off social media. It really has the worst members of society pushing narratives that divide and even kill people.

I feel that same sense of social lethargy.

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Well Drew Brees is now the #1 trending topic on Twitter for comments about not supporting disrespecting the flag or the country and it’s not going well for him at all. Even Michael Thomas had words for him.

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A small snippet, of course, taken out of context. Par for the course with social media.

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I have been pulled over by white policemen for driving through the bad side of town. They drug me out of the car and held me at gunpoint while they searched my car. I have also had a black policeman take up for me. Police shouldn't be disrespected the way that they are. They are doing their job which is to deal with scum on a daily basis. I would be edgy too.

I applied for a position with the Sherriff's office and the room of officers were on the edge of their seat with excitement until I answered the last question honestly and I knew I cut my throat when I answered. They thanked me for my time and left the room. What was the question? What would you have done had you been there for the Rodney King incident? I told them that my job was to protect the public at all costs and that is just what I would do.

Nonetheless, if the police were treated with respect they would probably return the respect. But no, they deal with the lowest element who when they get in trouble scream racism. I'm not a racist and I know plenty of officers who don't see color either.

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folks should not worry about twitter... half are bots, the other half are mostly brain dead.

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Tru dat!

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I wouldnt say i fix that for you but I made it a little more specific :)

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After seeing just a sharing of the article I wondered what was really going on.

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The difference is he educates you in this board like he is your pappy

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Agendas being served on both sides with what ever the can. Personally, I despise both the right and the left. They both make me sick.

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Sean back on the big V. Hasn't been able to finish in years. I'm sorry for the Saints fans, but I will be pleased to watch them lose this year. Damn shame it was will Smith and not malcolm. Now thats a trade I could enjoy

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Yeah! Of course you do! You've never been about anything other than bashing. Your say your sorry for "saints fans" because you've never truly been one. Bon Voyage, my friend.

Sad.

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I think he means in 22 weeks the racist democrat leaders are going to be voted out.

Nothing else really makes sense.

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Wrong thread

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I'm not a Democrat although I was raised that way. They F*** things up to. I'm certainly not a Republican. I'm not right or left. I'm in the middle and that's why I'm an independent. These days I usually vote for what I believe is the lesser of two evils on election day. :peace:

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I'm a lifelong Republican, but mainly based upon fiscal issues. Always been fairly moderate, otherwise, but continue to grow more socially open as I grow older.