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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; What are your thoughts on reparations? Do you thing it would solve anything on a long term basis? Honestly, as a conservative, I am starting to think it would be a good thing. Although it may not actually fix long ...
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
What are your thoughts on reparations? Do you thing it would solve anything on a long term basis?
Honestly, as a conservative, I am starting to think it would be a good thing. Although it may not actually fix long term issues in those communities but it may help jump start better jobs and businesses in those areas. We just had over 6 trillion in stimulus with more coming. I think 250-300 billion in direct payments (25k per family of 4) to the black community may be a positive. |
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
Originally Posted by blackangold
I'm cool with that, but we have to first determine on our end what we would want those reparations to be. People are jumping out there making claims for reparations, but that's something I like to call "Nation Business". We have to approach these kind of situations as though we're an independent nation and come to the consensus on what's best for everybody. Our leadership is poor and oftentimes compromised. I need to be able to trust those leading the charge.![]()
Personally, I feel that if you gave each Black person in America $25k or even $350k a piece we'd likely blow through it all with little to no progress. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but we'd end up giving that money right back to the government. I always liked the Nation of Islam's idea of reparations. Land in the South for an independent nation and the Israel treatment as it pertains to aid for a few decades. We work together as sister nations. As equals. Like I said though, my community has to sit at the table and figure out what we want. I will acknowledge the fact that several Conservatives have approached me and have been willing to negotiate the terms on reparations. Both White Liberals and Conservatives seem to be warming up to the idea when just a few months ago it was definitive no. It's surprised me. |
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
Originally Posted by blackangold
You'll find me unique. I don't view the Conservatives as the ultimate enemy like most of my contemporaries. I do no differentiating between Obama, Clinton, Trump, or Biden. I actually listened to my ancestors. MLK likened Conservatives to wolves and Liberals to foxes. Wolves don't hid their desire to eat the sheep. Foxes are sneaky and might frolic and play with the sheep. They're cunning. Yet...the appetite is the same. I'm down to figure it all out together, as long as we can come to equal terms. I want the power.
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
I truly believe that the idea of defunding the police department is a very bad idea. You think crime is tough now? Just defund the police department and crime will take over the streets allowing black people the opportunity to rob and murder at an even greater rate than they currently do. Of course white people will be stealing and robbing too but that doesn't get National attention. Floyd was a career criminal! Did you know that? Look up his arrest record. This is what we are fighting about? Why don't we just say Ex-Con lives matter? Most of the police brutality is against these outliers.
We once had the best education in the world and we have let education get weaker by defunding it the through the years. No child left behind was an egregious error in judgement. Yeah, dumb down the entire system so no one gets their feelings hurt. We are not even close to the top in world education....we're closer to a third world now. Go ahead. Defund the police and watch lynching's take place again since the Republican party refuses to outlaw it. Oh, and I read yesterday that I should not say "I don't see color". WTF? I don't! Now I'm not even allowed to say I'm not a racist in my own way unless I say it another way that is apparently non offensive…..although I'm still uncertain if I can still call black people colored or African Americans. It was after all their idea originally. I followed their wishes and I'm still trying to change for the better. Every black generation wants to call themselves something different and I try to keep up. No one conforms to white society but whites must bow down to other racist narratives. I'm white and I'm not ashamed! Is that too aggressive? Am I allowed to say that I'm happy with the skin I was born with? Oh and my family never owned slaves. Flame on. ![]() |
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
I just don't see the value in that discussion in terms of where someone is now. Bad decisions are almost always the reason people fail in life. It is sometimes unfortunate events in one's life or something catastrophic. Most often it is bad personal decisions. Having multiple children at a young age is a bad decision. Not working regularly is a bad decision. Not doing well academically or learning skills are bad pmdecisions. Committing crime is a bad decision.
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
Worst way to improve race relations ever? Reparations. Take from one race of people who earned it and give it to another race that didn’t.
The hate and resentment toward blacks will skyrocket. No one alive today owned slaves No one alive today was a slave Blacks also owned slaves Blacks sold slaves worldwide White men gave their lives to free slaves Most of America immigrated here after slavery was abolished |
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
Also, I'd like to add that whilst Drew did miss the point, I'm genuinely shocked at how many people willingly turned their back on him.
Without Brees, we are still experiencing 3 win seasons, still have the same amount of super bowls as the falcons and likely still the league doormat. Not to mention all the money and effort he's put into the community for 15 years. I know this is bigger than football, I truly get that, but to call Brees a racist is ludicrous. |
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
Drew Brees believes exactly as he first stated. Does Brees is afraid of tarnishing his reputation and opportunity to be on TV after football since this is his final season. Drew Brees is a coward.
Any man that says someone needs to STFU for stating their opinion is a P who is incapable of holding his emotions. Everything else surrounding the topic is BS and some people like that. They really enjoy being lied to, tickles them down deep. |
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
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And in comes the voice of no reason.![]()
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
I have been on this forum forever, mostly in the background listening. Here is something I feel i need to state regarding this situation and the situation in America today regarding "divisiveness". To me, there is a real simple solution.
Remove labels. We label everything, I am black, I am white, he's a racist, she's a bigot, I'm a 1 on Enneagram. It never ends. We use these labels to define us and to make excuses for terrible behavior. "That's just who I am and i won't apologize for it" .... etc. Every single person on this planet has the ability to change, change and love are choices, plain and simple. People make the right choices and CHOOSE to love instead of hate is the ONLY way the world will change for the better, regardless of race, religion, enneagram number, etc. |
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