Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

TheOak · 06-04-2020, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

When you say people should protest gun violence Chicago, and evidence is shown that people already do, but you dismiss that evidence with ease it says to me your concern was disingenuous from the start. Bringing it up was merely a tactic to dismiss any and all complaints from the community. It’s moving the goal posts.

I was already aware of protests, marches, and organizations created to stop gun violence. Anybody who’s really interested would know as well. A friend of mine and myself were texting yesterday morning and spitballing more innovative things we could do through his organization to address that specific issue. Gun safety training. Fun and informative. Job programs. Nothing would help more than being able to raise them up out of poverty stricken situations, but we do what we can.

I get it. Y’all believe police brutality is a non-issue and y’all don’t give a **** what anybody has to say about it, and that’s fine. Just say that. Don’t pretend to care about other things to downplay what’s going on now. “What about Black on Black crime?” is an inappropriate response.

As far as the original post is concern, I’m speaking on the Saints. Drew’s teammates and former teammates seem to be on the same accord. Thomas, Kamara, Jenkins, Sanders, and Jordan all had something to say. That’s almost every leader on the team. I’m sure the silent majority is powerful in the United States. That’s evident. However, the majority in the NFL is different from the majority in real life.

No comment would have sufficed.

You have a voice and you think more than you talk, which is why I have more respect for you than most humans. A lot of people talk more than they think and are just bad at conveying what they mean, and yes some are just idiots.

You are trying to solve a problem, I risk manage and trouble shoot for a living. Hopefully I can provide some value.

Symptom vs Problem
Most people treat fevers. A fever is rarely the problem, its a symptom of something else. In regards to what is going on right now there are multiple symptoms and multiple problems.

Causation vs Correlation
A white cop shoots a black person. Why?

Did he know him personally and have a problem.

Was he a bad cop.

Was he an incompetent cop.

Is the difference in race the cause or just a correlation in this incident?

Right now you are thinking that none of this should matter and it should have never happened... and you are 100% correct. However, it does happen and until you know why you cant fix what is broken.

At the end of the day, what I am reading from you seems to be on the right path. Keep people off the streets will keep them out of the corss-hairs. Education and employment will go a long way to keeping them off the streets. Working with guardians and parents to drive the education will put children in position to have a future. That is how you work on your community... We do not live in a vacuum so on the other side of that coin you will have to find a way to bridge the relationship between the community and those who are supposed to be protecting the community. Having to place blind trust in an Iraqi interpreter or guide while at war in Iraq is a real damn challenge at 3am in the dark of night.

The hard part and where I might start is to find someone or someones within the community that will resonate across the age ranges because it will have to be a combined effort that cuts through the bull**** fog trying to keep everyone from seeing clearly.

06-04-2020, 11:14 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by rezburna When you say people should protest gun violence Chicago, and evidence is shown that people already do, but you dismiss that evidence with ease it says to me your concern was disingenuous from the start. Bringing it up was merely a tactic to dismiss any and all complaints from the community. It’s moving the goal posts. I was already aware of protests, marches, and organizations created to stop gun violence. Anybody who’s really interested would know as well. A friend of mine and myself were texting yesterday morning and spitballing more innovative things we could do through his organization to address that specific issue. Gun safety training. Fun and informative. Job programs. Nothing would help more than being able to raise them up out of poverty stricken situations, but we do what we can. I get it. Y’all believe police brutality is a non-issue and y’all don’t give a ** what anybody has to say about it, and that’s fine. Just say that. Don’t pretend to care about other things to downplay what’s going on now. “What about Black on Black crime?” is an inappropriate response. As far as the original post is concern, I’m speaking on the Saints. Drew’s teammates and former teammates seem to be on the same accord. Thomas, Kamara, Jenkins, Sanders, and Jordan all had something to say. That’s almost every leader on the team. I’m sure the silent majority is powerful in the United States. That’s evident. However, the majority in the NFL is different from the majority in real life. No comment would have sufficed. You have a voice and you think more than you talk, which is why I have more respect for you than most humans. A lot of people talk more than they think and are just bad at conveying what they mean, and yes some are just idiots. You are trying to solve a problem, I risk manage and trouble shoot for a living. Hopefully I can provide some value. Symptom vs Problem Most people treat fevers. A fever is rarely the problem, its a symptom of something else. In regards to what is going on right now there are multiple symptoms and multiple problems. Causation vs Correlation A white cop shoots a black person. Why? Did he know him personally and have a problem. Was he a bad cop. Was he an incompetent cop. Is the difference in race the cause or just a correlation in this incident? Right now you are thinking that none of this should matter and it should have never happened... and you are 100% correct. However, it does happen and until you know why you cant fix what is broken. At the end of the day, what I am reading from you seems to be on the right path. Keep people off the streets will keep them out of the corss-hairs. Education and employment will go a long way to keeping them off the streets. Working with guardians and parents to drive the education will put children in position to have a future. That is how you work on your community... We do not live in a vacuum so on the other side of that coin you will have to find a way to bridge the relationship between the community and those who are supposed to be protecting the community. Having to place blind trust in an Iraqi interpreter or guide while at war in Iraq is a real damn challenge at 3am in the dark of night. The hard part and where I might start is to find someone or someones within the community that will resonate across the age ranges because it will have to be a combined effort that cuts through the bull** fog trying to keep everyone from seeing clearly. OldMaid, blackangold and rezburna like this.
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