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AsylumGuido 06-07-2020 12:35 PM

Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired
 
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 890232)
Didn't Jenkins post that BS after he talked to Drew on the phone about Drew's comments? Drew told him why he said it and Jenkins had to get his fame anyway despite the conversation. The epitome of being a douchebag. Brees would've never done anything like that to him or any other teammate. Jenkins just wanted the attention.

Yet he has since praised Brees. I always forgive. Life is far to short to keep crap pent up. Especially when it doesn't affect you personally.

dizzle88 06-07-2020 01:58 PM

Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired
 
Is too late to send Jenkins away and get Vonn Bell back? Another head scratcher by Payton and the FO.

AsylumGuido 06-07-2020 02:35 PM

Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 890259)
Is too late to send Jenkins away and get Vonn Bell back? Another head scratcher by Payton and the FO.

I fully expect Jenkins to be a stud. Bell may have hit a ceiling in their eyes.

The Dude 06-07-2020 03:09 PM

Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890261)
I fully expect Jenkins to be a stud. Bell may have hit a ceiling in their eyes.

Doubt it. Bell was young and improving. Jenkins is good but isn’t getting any younger.
When all that **** went down people were very emotional and angry and people say stupid **** when they are angry. Happens to all of us. I have little doubt that if Brees would have said the exact same thing today people wouldn’t take as much issue with it.
I 100% support BLM but I wish someone would explain to me the difference between what Brees said and what Jim Brown and Dak Prescott said.
I’m tired of people jumping on the bandwagon of what the popular opinion is one day only for it to be completely opposite the next day.

dizzle88 06-07-2020 03:13 PM

Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890261)
I fully expect Jenkins to be a stud. Bell may have hit a ceiling in their eyes.

Potentially, however all I see is the P-rob experiment all over again.

Whilst I didnt agree with Payton getting rid of Jenkins the first time, the only reason was because Byrd turned out to be such a disappointment.

Bell in my opinion was easily our best player in the secondary last year and his coverage skills really improved. He was always around the ball. Jenkins, got better when he left but I'd still prefer to have 20 something Vonn than aging Jenkins.

AsylumGuido 06-07-2020 04:36 PM

Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 890266)
Potentially, however all I see is the P-rob experiment all over again.

Whilst I didnt agree with Payton getting rid of Jenkins the first time, the only reason was because Byrd turned out to be such a disappointment.

Bell in my opinion was easily our best player in the secondary last year and his coverage skills really improved. He was always around the ball. Jenkins, got better when he left but I'd still prefer to have 20 something Vonn than aging Jenkins.

The other way around for me. I'd rather have the player that has been there and done that than the one that MAY produce some day. Our time to win it all again is limited. Buy in now, as far as I am concerned.

burningmetal 06-07-2020 05:11 PM

Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890253)
Have you read Brees' book? This newest saga should actually ADD wind to his sails. He thrives on adversity. That said, the whole ordeal is most likely far less impactful than what fans and clickbait generating media believe.

Of course the media engages in hyperbole and click baiting. But it only takes a tiny amount of discernment to figure out that the reactions of his teammates are not click bait. These are THEIR words that THEY made public on twitter. Drew was asked a question and responded. And it was a reasonable answer. But his teammates acted like a bunch of bigots and not only jumped down his throat about it but, as I said, did so publicly.

It's kind of pathetic the lengths some people will go to in order to excuse the behavior of their beloved football heroes. There is literally no way to construe this reaction by the players as being a media narrative. The media and the players have INVENTED this narrative, together, and no doubt the media will milk it for all it's worth, but this never would have been an issue if these guys knew how to handle a disagreement like grown men.

Now Drew has bent over to political correctness, instead of standing his ground. I'm not sure there is a single principled person left in the NFL.

AsylumGuido 06-07-2020 11:03 PM

Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 890273)
Of course the media engages in hyperbole and click baiting. But it only takes a tiny amount of discernment to figure out that the reactions of his teammates are not click bait. These are THEIR words that THEY made public on twitter. Drew was asked a question and responded. And it was a reasonable answer. But his teammates acted like a bunch of bigots and not only jumped down his throat about it but, as I said, did so publicly.

It's kind of pathetic the lengths some people will go to in order to excuse the behavior of their beloved football heroes. There is literally no way to construe this reaction by the players as being a media narrative. The media and the players have INVENTED this narrative, together, and no doubt the media will milk it for all it's worth, but this never would have been an issue if these guys knew how to handle a disagreement like grown men.

Now Drew has bent over to political correctness, instead of standing his ground. I'm not sure there is a single principled person left in the NFL.

All that said, I'll bet you are FAR more bent out of shape about it than are those players. Adults work things out with those they work with.

burningmetal 06-08-2020 02:37 PM

Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 890282)
All that said, I'll bet you are FAR more bent out of shape about it than are those players. Adults work things out with those they work with.

You'd lose that bet really badly. You know how I know that? It's not a crystal ball... They ALREADY handled the situation like children, NOT adults. You know what adults do? They work out their problems in PRIVATE, and they don't call each other names in the process.

These little child-men had temper tantrums in PUBLIC. And what is this you call "working it out" that you claim they've done? They bullied Brees into taking their side, and throwing his principles in the garbage (which doesn't speak well of him, either). That's not working it out. Grown men don't bully each other into taking a side so that they can stay in the cool kids club.

The fact that you haven't made that connection is absurd. You are addicted to this team, and will not see anything negative that impacts your emotional bond to football. And that's your business. But don't pretend to have the high ground in conversation with other adults, if that's how you want to be.

AsylumGuido 06-08-2020 02:45 PM

Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 890325)
You'd lose that bet really badly. You know how I know that? It's not a crystal ball... They ALREADY handled the situation like children, NOT adults. You know what adults do? They work out their problems in PRIVATE, and they don't call each other names in the process.

These little child-men had temper tantrums in PUBLIC. And what is this you call "working it out" that you claim they've done? They bullied Brees into taking their side, and throwing his principles in the garbage (which doesn't speak well of him, either). That's not working it out. Grown men don't bully each other into taking a side so that they can stay in the cool kids club.

The fact that you haven't made that connection is absurd. You are addicted to this team, and will not see anything negative that impacts your emotional bond to football. And that's your business. But don't pretend to have the high ground in conversation with other adults, if that's how you want to be.

They did work out their problems in PRIVATE. The problem was created in PUBLIC, but they had private conversations the next day ... like adults, and worked it out.

You know how I know that? It's not a crystal ball ... the players, including Malcolm Jenkins, praised Brees after that PRIVATE talk like adults. The fact that you haven't made that connection is absurd.


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