Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired

AsylumGuido · 06-07-2020, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Brees is younger and better than Tom Brady! Brady is a diva and we don't need those on the team. I hope Drew never retires but this newest saga may take the wind out of his sails.

Oh, and Jenkins can kiss my a$$. You don't curse your QB in public. In private? Oh hell yeah! But to cuss the man on twitter left me with almost no respect for Jenkins. I liked him as a player but I don't respect him now. However, I still respect Drew. Jenkins could learn something from Demario Davis.

Have you read Brees' book? This newest saga should actually ADD wind to his sails. He thrives on adversity. That said, the whole ordeal is most likely far less impactful than what fans and clickbait generating media believe.

burningmetal · 06-07-2020, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Have you read Brees' book? This newest saga should actually ADD wind to his sails. He thrives on adversity. That said, the whole ordeal is most likely far less impactful than what fans and clickbait generating media believe.

Of course the media engages in hyperbole and click baiting. But it only takes a tiny amount of discernment to figure out that the reactions of his teammates are not click bait. These are THEIR words that THEY made public on twitter. Drew was asked a question and responded. And it was a reasonable answer. But his teammates acted like a bunch of bigots and not only jumped down his throat about it but, as I said, did so publicly.

It's kind of pathetic the lengths some people will go to in order to excuse the behavior of their beloved football heroes. There is literally no way to construe this reaction by the players as being a media narrative. The media and the players have INVENTED this narrative, together, and no doubt the media will milk it for all it's worth, but this never would have been an issue if these guys knew how to handle a disagreement like grown men.

Now Drew has bent over to political correctness, instead of standing his ground. I'm not sure there is a single principled person left in the NFL.

AsylumGuido · 06-07-2020, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Of course the media engages in hyperbole and click baiting. But it only takes a tiny amount of discernment to figure out that the reactions of his teammates are not click bait. These are THEIR words that THEY made public on twitter. Drew was asked a question and responded. And it was a reasonable answer. But his teammates acted like a bunch of bigots and not only jumped down his throat about it but, as I said, did so publicly.

It's kind of pathetic the lengths some people will go to in order to excuse the behavior of their beloved football heroes. There is literally no way to construe this reaction by the players as being a media narrative. The media and the players have INVENTED this narrative, together, and no doubt the media will milk it for all it's worth, but this never would have been an issue if these guys knew how to handle a disagreement like grown men.

Now Drew has bent over to political correctness, instead of standing his ground. I'm not sure there is a single principled person left in the NFL.

All that said, I'll bet you are FAR more bent out of shape about it than are those players. Adults work things out with those they work with.

burningmetal · 06-08-2020, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

All that said, I'll bet you are FAR more bent out of shape about it than are those players. Adults work things out with those they work with.

You'd lose that bet really badly. You know how I know that? It's not a crystal ball... They ALREADY handled the situation like children, NOT adults. You know what adults do? They work out their problems in PRIVATE, and they don't call each other names in the process.

These little child-men had temper tantrums in PUBLIC. And what is this you call "working it out" that you claim they've done? They bullied Brees into taking their side, and throwing his principles in the garbage (which doesn't speak well of him, either). That's not working it out. Grown men don't bully each other into taking a side so that they can stay in the cool kids club.

The fact that you haven't made that connection is absurd. You are addicted to this team, and will not see anything negative that impacts your emotional bond to football. And that's your business. But don't pretend to have the high ground in conversation with other adults, if that's how you want to be.

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

You'd lose that bet really badly. You know how I know that? It's not a crystal ball... They ALREADY handled the situation like children, NOT adults. You know what adults do? They work out their problems in PRIVATE, and they don't call each other names in the process.

These little child-men had temper tantrums in PUBLIC. And what is this you call "working it out" that you claim they've done? They bullied Brees into taking their side, and throwing his principles in the garbage (which doesn't speak well of him, either). That's not working it out. Grown men don't bully each other into taking a side so that they can stay in the cool kids club.

The fact that you haven't made that connection is absurd. You are addicted to this team, and will not see anything negative that impacts your emotional bond to football. And that's your business. But don't pretend to have the high ground in conversation with other adults, if that's how you want to be.

They did work out their problems in PRIVATE. The problem was created in PUBLIC, but they had private conversations the next day ... like adults, and worked it out.

You know how I know that? It's not a crystal ball ... the players, including Malcolm Jenkins, praised Brees after that PRIVATE talk like adults. The fact that you haven't made that connection is absurd.

burningmetal · 06-08-2020, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They did work out their problems in PRIVATE. The problem was created in PUBLIC, but they had private conversations the next day ... like adults, and worked it out.

You know how I know that? It's not a crystal ball ... the players, including Malcolm Jenkins, praised Brees after that PRIVATE talk like adults. The fact that you haven't made that connection is absurd.

Let me try this one more time. Make sure you're paying attention, this time. They didn't "work out" their problems. Brees had to completely change his stance and throw away his principles, in order for them to "forgive" him.

He was given no right to his own opinion. He was savagely attacked. And, once more, IF they were real adults, they NEVER would have allowed their beef to be public. They wanted to make this an issue. THEY made this public with the direct intent of pressuring Drew into backing down, which is exactly what he did. If he had not, they would not have let it go. How do I know that? Listen closely... Because if they hated him for what he said, initially, they surely would have continued to hate if if he doubled down on it.

Understand now?

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Of course the media engages in hyperbole and click baiting. But it only takes a tiny amount of discernment to figure out that the reactions of his teammates are not click bait. These are THEIR words that THEY made public on twitter. Drew was asked a question and responded. And it was a reasonable answer. But his teammates acted like a bunch of bigots and not only jumped down his throat about it but, as I said, did so publicly.

It's kind of pathetic the lengths some people will go to in order to excuse the behavior of their beloved football heroes. There is literally no way to construe this reaction by the players as being a media narrative. The media and the players have INVENTED this narrative, together, and no doubt the media will milk it for all it's worth, but this never would have been an issue if these guys knew how to handle a disagreement like grown men.

Now Drew has bent over to political correctness, instead of standing his ground. I'm not sure there is a single principled person left in the NFL.

Well then it's about time you abandon the Saints and the NFL for good if it upsets you so. I'm sure that would treat them right for hurting your feelings.

burningmetal · 06-08-2020, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Well then it's about time you abandon the Saints and the NFL for good if it upsets you so. I'm sure that would treat them right for hurting your feelings.

I already have cut ties with both. But they didn't "hurt" my "feelings".

When someone does something that you think is reprehensible, and you say "I have no respect for that person" or "those people", does that mean your feelings are hurt by it? Does finding a problem with something automatically equate to hurt feelings in your little bubble?

Try not to embarrass yourself.

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I already have cut ties with both. But they didn't "hurt" my "feelings".

When someone does something that you think is reprehensible, and you say "I have no respect for that person" or "those people", does that mean your feelings are hurt by it? Does finding a problem with something automatically equate to hurt feelings in your little bubble?

Try not to embarrass yourself.

Not the one embarrassing myself. You're the one trying to make a big deal about a beef between two professional entertainers. Lighten up, Francis.

And a beef that has since been resolved ... albeit you fail to understand that simple concept.

Understand now?

Also, what are you doing hanging out on an NFL affiliated forum centered around the Saints if you have "cut ties with both"?

Must be those hurt feelings. Those entertainers can be so mean.

burningmetal · 06-08-2020, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not the one embarrassing myself. You're the one trying to make a big deal about a beef between two professional entertainers. Lighten up, Francis.

And a beef that has since been resolved ... albeit you fail to understand that simple concept.

Understand now?

Also, what are you doing hanging out on an NFL affiliated forum centered around the Saints if you have "cut ties with both"?

Must be those hurt feelings. Those entertainers can be so mean.

Trust me... You've embarrassed yourself beyond belief, at this point, friend.

A couple of things: Being "entertainers" as has nothing to do with how your actions should be viewed. We're not talking about entertainment. We're talking about bigots spewing a false narrative that is going on across America, right now, and threatening to tear the country apart. You call that entertainment? This shows your unbelievable lack of perspective. Your have your eyes and ears covered, yelling "lalalalala, I can't hear you!", because the only thing you seem to care about is being entertained.

Also, why do you keep saying "between two professionals"? This wasn't between two people. It was between pretty much every player who had a twitter account, and Brees. That's not some small thing.

And for the THIRD time, nothing was "worked out". You failed to even address what I said. That's how kids argue. They just keep repeating "you don't know nothin', shut up!". In no way is bullying someone into taking your position, "working things out". And this bullying is going on across the nation, and these celebrities have a platform that allows them to reach a lot of people with what they say. They have chosen to use that platform to spread derision and outright hatred. That's why this matters to me, matters to a lot of people, and should matter to everyone.

What I choose to freely discuss on a board that I've been a member of for over 8 years, is my business. This isn't a football discussion. It just happens to involve football players. You had this same condescending, self-righteous attitude during kneel-gate. You wanted everyone who was disgusted to just go away. Well, guess what? This board isn't about you. You can disagree all you want, just like I can. But you don't get to dictate what a person chooses to use this site for, much less whether they can even be here, at all.

You are a phony.

06-07-2020, 12:26 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Brees is younger and better than Tom Brady! Brady is a diva and we don't need those on the team. I hope Drew never retires but this newest saga may take the wind out of his sails. Oh, and Jenkins can kiss my a$$. You don't curse your QB in public. In private? Oh hell yeah! But to cuss the man on twitter left me with almost no respect for Jenkins. I liked him as a player but I don't respect him now. However, I still respect Drew. Jenkins could learn something from Demario Davis. Have you read Brees' book? This newest saga should actually ADD wind to his sails. He thrives on adversity. That said, the whole ordeal is most likely far less impactful than what fans and clickbait generating media believe. OldMaid and K Major like this.

06-07-2020, 05:11 PM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Have you read Brees' book? This newest saga should actually ADD wind to his sails. He thrives on adversity. That said, the whole ordeal is most likely far less impactful than what fans and clickbait generating media believe. Of course the media engages in hyperbole and click baiting. But it only takes a tiny amount of discernment to figure out that the reactions of his teammates are not click bait. These are THEIR words that THEY made public on twitter. Drew was asked a question and responded. And it was a reasonable answer. But his teammates acted like a bunch of bigots and not only jumped down his throat about it but, as I said, did so publicly. It's kind of pathetic the lengths some people will go to in order to excuse the behavior of their beloved football heroes. There is literally no way to construe this reaction by the players as being a media narrative. The media and the players have INVENTED this narrative, together, and no doubt the media will milk it for all it's worth, but this never would have been an issue if these guys knew how to handle a disagreement like grown men. Now Drew has bent over to political correctness, instead of standing his ground. I'm not sure there is a single principled person left in the NFL. frydaddy likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

06-07-2020, 11:03 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired Originally Posted by burningmetal Of course the media engages in hyperbole and click baiting. But it only takes a tiny amount of discernment to figure out that the reactions of his teammates are not click bait. These are THEIR words that THEY made public on twitter. Drew was asked a question and responded. And it was a reasonable answer. But his teammates acted like a bunch of bigots and not only jumped down his throat about it but, as I said, did so publicly. It's kind of pathetic the lengths some people will go to in order to excuse the behavior of their beloved football heroes. There is literally no way to construe this reaction by the players as being a media narrative. The media and the players have INVENTED this narrative, together, and no doubt the media will milk it for all it's worth, but this never would have been an issue if these guys knew how to handle a disagreement like grown men. Now Drew has bent over to political correctness, instead of standing his ground. I'm not sure there is a single principled person left in the NFL. All that said, I'll bet you are FAR more bent out of shape about it than are those players. Adults work things out with those they work with.

06-08-2020, 02:37 PM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired Originally Posted by AsylumGuido All that said, I'll bet you are FAR more bent out of shape about it than are those players. Adults work things out with those they work with. You'd lose that bet really badly. You know how I know that? It's not a crystal ball... They ALREADY handled the situation like children, NOT adults. You know what adults do? They work out their problems in PRIVATE, and they don't call each other names in the process. These little child-men had temper tantrums in PUBLIC. And what is this you call "working it out" that you claim they've done? They bullied Brees into taking their side, and throwing his principles in the garbage (which doesn't speak well of him, either). That's not working it out. Grown men don't bully each other into taking a side so that they can stay in the cool kids club. The fact that you haven't made that connection is absurd. You are addicted to this team, and will not see anything negative that impacts your emotional bond to football. And that's your business. But don't pretend to have the high ground in conversation with other adults, if that's how you want to be.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

06-08-2020, 02:45 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired Originally Posted by burningmetal You'd lose that bet really badly. You know how I know that? It's not a crystal ball... They ALREADY handled the situation like children, NOT adults. You know what adults do? They work out their problems in PRIVATE, and they don't call each other names in the process. These little child-men had temper tantrums in PUBLIC. And what is this you call "working it out" that you claim they've done? They bullied Brees into taking their side, and throwing his principles in the garbage (which doesn't speak well of him, either). That's not working it out. Grown men don't bully each other into taking a side so that they can stay in the cool kids club. The fact that you haven't made that connection is absurd. You are addicted to this team, and will not see anything negative that impacts your emotional bond to football. And that's your business. But don't pretend to have the high ground in conversation with other adults, if that's how you want to be. They did work out their problems in PRIVATE. The problem was created in PUBLIC, but they had private conversations the next day ... like adults, and worked it out. You know how I know that? It's not a crystal ball ... the players, including Malcolm Jenkins, praised Brees after that PRIVATE talk like adults. The fact that you haven't made that connection is absurd.

06-08-2020, 03:04 PM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They did work out their problems in PRIVATE. The problem was created in PUBLIC, but they had private conversations the next day ... like adults, and worked it out. You know how I know that? It's not a crystal ball ... the players, including Malcolm Jenkins, praised Brees after that PRIVATE talk like adults. The fact that you haven't made that connection is absurd. Let me try this one more time. Make sure you're paying attention, this time. They didn't "work out" their problems. Brees had to completely change his stance and throw away his principles, in order for them to "forgive" him. He was given no right to his own opinion. He was savagely attacked. And, once more, IF they were real adults, they NEVER would have allowed their beef to be public. They wanted to make this an issue. THEY made this public with the direct intent of pressuring Drew into backing down, which is exactly what he did. If he had not, they would not have let it go. How do I know that? Listen closely... Because if they hated him for what he said, initially, they surely would have continued to hate if if he doubled down on it. Understand now?
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

06-08-2020, 02:47 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired Originally Posted by burningmetal Of course the media engages in hyperbole and click baiting. But it only takes a tiny amount of discernment to figure out that the reactions of his teammates are not click bait. These are THEIR words that THEY made public on twitter. Drew was asked a question and responded. And it was a reasonable answer. But his teammates acted like a bunch of bigots and not only jumped down his throat about it but, as I said, did so publicly. It's kind of pathetic the lengths some people will go to in order to excuse the behavior of their beloved football heroes. There is literally no way to construe this reaction by the players as being a media narrative. The media and the players have INVENTED this narrative, together, and no doubt the media will milk it for all it's worth, but this never would have been an issue if these guys knew how to handle a disagreement like grown men. Now Drew has bent over to political correctness, instead of standing his ground. I'm not sure there is a single principled person left in the NFL. Well then it's about time you abandon the Saints and the NFL for good if it upsets you so. I'm sure that would treat them right for hurting your feelings.

06-08-2020, 03:09 PM	#8
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Well then it's about time you abandon the Saints and the NFL for good if it upsets you so. I'm sure that would treat them right for hurting your feelings. I already have cut ties with both. But they didn't "hurt" my "feelings". When someone does something that you think is reprehensible, and you say "I have no respect for that person" or "those people", does that mean your feelings are hurt by it? Does finding a problem with something automatically equate to hurt feelings in your little bubble? Try not to embarrass yourself.

06-08-2020, 03:18 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired Originally Posted by burningmetal I already have cut ties with both. But they didn't "hurt" my "feelings". When someone does something that you think is reprehensible, and you say "I have no respect for that person" or "those people", does that mean your feelings are hurt by it? Does finding a problem with something automatically equate to hurt feelings in your little bubble? Try not to embarrass yourself. Not the one embarrassing myself. You're the one trying to make a big deal about a beef between two professional entertainers. Lighten up, Francis. And a beef that has since been resolved ... albeit you fail to understand that simple concept. Understand now? Also, what are you doing hanging out on an NFL affiliated forum centered around the Saints if you have "cut ties with both"? Must be those hurt feelings. Those entertainers can be so mean.

06-08-2020, 03:53 PM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not the one embarrassing myself. You're the one trying to make a big deal about a beef between two professional entertainers. Lighten up, Francis. And a beef that has since been resolved ... albeit you fail to understand that simple concept. Understand now? Also, what are you doing hanging out on an NFL affiliated forum centered around the Saints if you have "cut ties with both"? Must be those hurt feelings. Those entertainers can be so mean. Trust me... You've embarrassed yourself beyond belief, at this point, friend. A couple of things: Being "entertainers" as has nothing to do with how your actions should be viewed. We're not talking about entertainment. We're talking about bigots spewing a false narrative that is going on across America, right now, and threatening to tear the country apart. You call that entertainment? This shows your unbelievable lack of perspective. Your have your eyes and ears covered, yelling "lalalalala, I can't hear you!", because the only thing you seem to care about is being entertained. Also, why do you keep saying "between two professionals"? This wasn't between two people. It was between pretty much every player who had a twitter account, and Brees. That's not some small thing. And for the THIRD time, nothing was "worked out". You failed to even address what I said. That's how kids argue. They just keep repeating "you don't know nothin', shut up!". In no way is bullying someone into taking your position, "working things out". And this bullying is going on across the nation, and these celebrities have a platform that allows them to reach a lot of people with what they say. They have chosen to use that platform to spread derision and outright hatred. That's why this matters to me, matters to a lot of people, and should matter to everyone. What I choose to freely discuss on a board that I've been a member of for over 8 years, is my business. This isn't a football discussion. It just happens to involve football players. You had this same condescending, self-righteous attitude during kneel-gate. You wanted everyone who was disgusted to just go away. Well, guess what? This board isn't about you. You can disagree all you want, just like I can. But you don't get to dictate what a person chooses to use this site for, much less whether they can even be here, at all. You are a phony.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.