Malik Jackson won’t accept Brees apology

The Dude · 06-08-2020, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

You never know whats gonna come out of Philly, not to mention those cool slippers.

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True, it is Philly we are talking about here.
I just don’t get it. We are supposed to be willing to change, look inside ourselves, and listen to what the black community is saying. My opinions on racial inequality have changed And my stance on many issues have changed. I thought this is what the black community wants. What’s the point of all this if people aren’t able to accept the fact that people are open to change. I hate the double standard.

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2020, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

True, it is Philly we are talking about here.
I just don’t get it. We are supposed to be willing to change, look inside ourselves, and listen to what the black community is saying. My opinions on racial inequality have changed And my stance on many issues have changed. I thought this is what the black community wants. What’s the point of all this if people aren’t able to accept the fact that people are open to change. I hate the double standard.

He appears to be in the minority when it comes to accepting that people are willing to change. I know I have. Apparently Drew has changed his perspective, as well. Every Saints player that came out against Drew's interview answer has "praised" or commended him since their private meetings. It will take quite a bit of compromise for things to improve elsewhere.

skymike · 06-29-2020, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He appears to be in the minority when it comes to accepting that people are willing to change. I know I have. Apparently Drew has changed his perspective, as well. Every Saints player that came out against Drew's interview answer has "praised" or commended him since their private meetings. It will take quite a bit of compromise for things to improve elsewhere.

He never needed to apologize to anyone in the first place.
bunch of fascist racists.

Rugby Saint II · 06-30-2020, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

He never needed to apologize to anyone in the first place.
bunch of fascist racists.

True Dat!

AsylumGuido · 06-30-2020, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

He never needed to apologize to anyone in the first place.
bunch of fascist racists.

No. He never needed to apologize, but he did after discussing the issues and coming to a new understanding of the gesture and what it truly expressed.

I've been there and done that. I felt the exact same way at first, but after talking with several friends I also completely changed my viewpoint.

skymike · 07-01-2020, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No. He never needed to apologize, but he did after discussing the issues and coming to a new understanding of the gesture and what it truly expressed.

I've been there and done that. I felt the exact same way at first, but after talking with several friends I also completely changed my viewpoint.

sad day in America, when you have to apologize for respecting the Flag of
my country.
They make millions of dollars to play a game.
Nobody's going to bother anyone if they dont cause trouble.
Nobody owes anyone anything.
There is no wall prohibiting anyone from leaving America.
Make your own fortune or be your own Curse.
After carefully reconsidering their viewpoint and feelings,
F*ck them.

AsylumGuido · 07-01-2020, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

sad day in America, when you have to apologize for respecting the Flag of
my country.
They make millions of dollars to play a game.
Nobody's going to bother anyone if they dont cause trouble.
Nobody owes anyone anything.
There is no wall prohibiting anyone from leaving America.
Make your own fortune or be your own Curse.
After carefully reconsidering their viewpoint and feelings,
F*ck them.

He never apologized for respecting the flag. He apologized because he failed to recognize the cause behind the gesture. You can do both. I know because I do.

burningmetal · 07-01-2020, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He never apologized for respecting the flag. He apologized because he failed to recognize the cause behind the gesture. You can do both. I know because I do.

He didn't "fail" to recognize the cause behind the "gesture". The cause is based on a lie, first of all. But, for the sake of brevity, let's skip that part and assume that the cause was ever rooted in reality. The "gesture" was disrespectful. When the PA announcer says "everyone, please rise for the national anthem" and you sit on the bench, or take a knee, or turn your back (all of these things were done) you aren't fooling anyone with a brain that you are doing anything other than spiting the flag to show your disdain.

Everyone understood this, even though some tried to justify it, they knew what it was about. And, again, putting aside the fact that "systemic racism" is a total lie, if they wanted to protest, that was a poor time to do it. These are millionaires getting ready to play a game in front of thousands of fans who poured their hearts into their teams, and these guys picked THAT time to make their demonstrations of disgust for the very country which has afforded them the freedom to play a game and make a fortune.

Drew understood this, as well. But, suddenly, when the political climate heated up, the players became completely intolerant of Drew's opinion that protesting during the anthem was the wrong way to go. The players say it's not about the flag, but they won't protest at any other time. That is horse crap, and anyone who is remotely honest about it knows that.

Your personal story of flipping your stance is not necessarily surprising. There are certain people who I'd expect to do whatever makes their seat a little cooler. I thought Drew had a little more integrity, but apparently it was more important to patch things up and continue playing football, without worrying about whether or not his linemen would block for him.

shawnkytonk · 06-30-2020, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

He never needed to apologize to anyone in the first place.
bunch of fascist racists.

LOL

06-08-2020, 03:25 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Malik Jackson won’t accept Brees apology Originally Posted by RailBoss You never know whats gonna come out of Philly, not to mention those cool slippers. Colin Kaepernick jersey burn Fail! Always Teste - YouTube True, it is Philly we are talking about here. I just don’t get it. We are supposed to be willing to change, look inside ourselves, and listen to what the black community is saying. My opinions on racial inequality have changed And my stance on many issues have changed. I thought this is what the black community wants. What’s the point of all this if people aren’t able to accept the fact that people are open to change. I hate the double standard. AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and Beastmode like this.
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06-08-2020, 03:31 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Malik Jackson won’t accept Brees apology Originally Posted by The Dude True, it is Philly we are talking about here. I just don’t get it. We are supposed to be willing to change, look inside ourselves, and listen to what the black community is saying. My opinions on racial inequality have changed And my stance on many issues have changed. I thought this is what the black community wants. What’s the point of all this if people aren’t able to accept the fact that people are open to change. I hate the double standard. He appears to be in the minority when it comes to accepting that people are willing to change. I know I have. Apparently Drew has changed his perspective, as well. Every Saints player that came out against Drew's interview answer has "praised" or commended him since their private meetings. It will take quite a bit of compromise for things to improve elsewhere.

06-29-2020, 02:28 AM	#3
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Malik Jackson won’t accept Brees apology Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He appears to be in the minority when it comes to accepting that people are willing to change. I know I have. Apparently Drew has changed his perspective, as well. Every Saints player that came out against Drew's interview answer has "praised" or commended him since their private meetings. It will take quite a bit of compromise for things to improve elsewhere. He never needed to apologize to anyone in the first place. bunch of fascist racists. Rugby Saint II likes this.

06-30-2020, 10:12 AM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Malik Jackson won’t accept Brees apology Originally Posted by skymike He never needed to apologize to anyone in the first place. bunch of fascist racists. True Dat!

06-30-2020, 11:44 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Malik Jackson won’t accept Brees apology Originally Posted by skymike He never needed to apologize to anyone in the first place. bunch of fascist racists. No. He never needed to apologize, but he did after discussing the issues and coming to a new understanding of the gesture and what it truly expressed. I've been there and done that. I felt the exact same way at first, but after talking with several friends I also completely changed my viewpoint.

07-01-2020, 04:50 AM	#6
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Malik Jackson won’t accept Brees apology Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. He never needed to apologize, but he did after discussing the issues and coming to a new understanding of the gesture and what it truly expressed. I've been there and done that. I felt the exact same way at first, but after talking with several friends I also completely changed my viewpoint. sad day in America, when you have to apologize for respecting the Flag of my country. They make millions of dollars to play a game. Nobody's going to bother anyone if they dont cause trouble. Nobody owes anyone anything. There is no wall prohibiting anyone from leaving America. Make your own fortune or be your own Curse. After carefully reconsidering their viewpoint and feelings, F*ck them. iceshack149, Rugby Saint II, dam1953 and 1 others like this.
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07-01-2020, 07:20 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Malik Jackson won’t accept Brees apology Originally Posted by skymike sad day in America, when you have to apologize for respecting the Flag of my country. They make millions of dollars to play a game. Nobody's going to bother anyone if they dont cause trouble. Nobody owes anyone anything. There is no wall prohibiting anyone from leaving America. Make your own fortune or be your own Curse. After carefully reconsidering their viewpoint and feelings, F*ck them. He never apologized for respecting the flag. He apologized because he failed to recognize the cause behind the gesture. You can do both. I know because I do. skymike, Rugby Saint II and The Dude like this.

07-01-2020, 07:48 AM	#8
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Malik Jackson won’t accept Brees apology Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He never apologized for respecting the flag. He apologized because he failed to recognize the cause behind the gesture. You can do both. I know because I do. He didn't "fail" to recognize the cause behind the "gesture". The cause is based on a lie, first of all. But, for the sake of brevity, let's skip that part and assume that the cause was ever rooted in reality. The "gesture" was disrespectful. When the PA announcer says "everyone, please rise for the national anthem" and you sit on the bench, or take a knee, or turn your back (all of these things were done) you aren't fooling anyone with a brain that you are doing anything other than spiting the flag to show your disdain. Everyone understood this, even though some tried to justify it, they knew what it was about. And, again, putting aside the fact that "systemic racism" is a total lie, if they wanted to protest, that was a poor time to do it. These are millionaires getting ready to play a game in front of thousands of fans who poured their hearts into their teams, and these guys picked THAT time to make their demonstrations of disgust for the very country which has afforded them the freedom to play a game and make a fortune. Drew understood this, as well. But, suddenly, when the political climate heated up, the players became completely intolerant of Drew's opinion that protesting during the anthem was the wrong way to go. The players say it's not about the flag, but they won't protest at any other time. That is horse crap, and anyone who is remotely honest about it knows that. Your personal story of flipping your stance is not necessarily surprising. There are certain people who I'd expect to do whatever makes their seat a little cooler. I thought Drew had a little more integrity, but apparently it was more important to patch things up and continue playing football, without worrying about whether or not his linemen would block for him. iceshack149, Budsdrinker, skymike and 2 others like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

06-30-2020, 02:51 PM	#9
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Malik Jackson won’t accept Brees apology Originally Posted by skymike He never needed to apologize to anyone in the first place. bunch of fascist racists. LOL