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Danno 07-13-2020 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 892355)
You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

nola_swammi 07-14-2020 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 892360)
According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

Where is the link

rezburna 07-14-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 892360)
According to their website
1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

Sounds like reform and policies to me.

1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going.
2. Money and land for descendants of slavery.
3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang.
4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans.
5. Political prisoners should definitely be released.
6. Another policy change for ALL Americans.

I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it.

AsylumGuido 07-14-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 892370)
Sounds like reform and policies to me.

1. Take money from the police budget and put into other areas. That could help all Americans depending on where the money is going.
2. Money and land for descendants of slavery.
3. Universal basic income was already being discussed by Andrew Yang.
4. Free college and open admissions is a Bernie Sanders idea and would be for ALL Americans.
5. Political prisoners should definitely be released.
6. Another policy change for ALL Americans.

I don’t see the revolution in any of these requests. Sound like a very weak list of demands. BLM is the “MLK” in this situation. There are alternative organizations that are far from reformist. I haven’t seen this list of demands though. I looked through the website, but maybe I just missed it.

Shreveport is one of the eleven cities selected to test UBI (Universal basic income), along with Los Angeles and Atlanta.

"The mayors of Los Angeles; Oakland, California; Atlanta, Georgia; Tacoma, Washington, Newark, New Jersey; Saint Paul, Minnesota; Jackson, Mississippi; Compton, California; Shreveport, Louisiana and Stockton, California, have joined Mayors For A Guaranteed Income, a coalition advocating for UBI policies, or the idea of giving out recurring cash payments to all individuals without any strings attached."

This is proposed for all Americans, as well. Automation is eliminating jobs at record levels and this is a proposed solution for lowering poverty.

spkb25 07-14-2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 892324)
You mad bro?

Of course not, just factual as always

spkb25 07-14-2020 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 892328)
You speak in bold statements, for someone who says the ignorant things they say. "All of the issue's are self inflicted " YOU are apart of the problem in this country CLEARLY.

Be a GREAT man , and be apart of the solution/creation of something bigger than yourself. You could learn alot from Drew Brees.

All of the issues are self inflicted. Black Americans cause their own problems. What id like to see you do is help some of the parents bury their kids. Other than that just be quiet.

spkb25 07-14-2020 03:45 PM

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Automation is eliminating jobs, except for those willing to work. For those people, somehow, miraculously, there's always work. For instance, ever seen a Hispanic from say El Salvador turn down work. Me either. But they're not a black American. Go down to Ft. Lauderdale airport. There are so many employed black people there. They're all Haitians, because they're not black Americans. You will quickly wonder how in the world these people who did not speak English learned the language and work so hard in their new country. When you're not entitled, when you know what real starvation is, and you know what actual lack of any opportunity looks like and you're blessed with just a chance at more, then you work and live with that reality. Black Americans know nothing about this. They're entitled, spoon fed, with an awful culture of death and fatherless children. Drugs and constant crime.

The Dude 07-14-2020 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 892355)
You making claims without proof. Why bring to awareness to BREAST CANCER, don’t PROSTATE CANCER matter, even better ALL CANCER matter. You look at BLACK LIVE MATTER and only see BLACK. You don’t see the message of brutality and killing of black. Blacks on opioids are look as a MENACE of society but once the numbers show the whites are addicted it became a sad CRISIS. Yet BLM considered to be racist in your eyes. BLM isn’t looking for money, they’re looking for EQUALITY TREATMENT.

BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

rezburna 07-14-2020 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 892411)
BLM started in order to bring awareness to police brutality, everyone can agree on that. It started because black people have been treated as if their lives don’t matter and it was meant to be all inclusive not exclusive of any race. I supported it 100% when it started and I still support that idea.
Over time it got hijacked by groups like Antifa and other anti government political B.S. It has turned into the opposite of what it was supposed to be. Those attachments have done more harm to the black community than good.
I know a lot of conservatives that were starting to understand that BLM did not mean other lives don’t matter until the rioting and defunding the police issues came up. At that point it ceased to be about black lives and became just another front for a political agenda.

I think BLM is what they’ve always been. A multicultural, reformist group with a highlighted focus on the LGBTQ and feminist communities. I don’t think ANTIFA hijacked it at all. I think ANTIFA uses the momentum of Black movements to attempt to push their agenda forward.

BLM the organization are just like Black people in general, not a monolith. The leaders and the followers aren’t always on the same page. I don’t identify with their movement, but I speak up on their behalf when being attacked because they’re simply doing what they think will bring about the best results, thus our disagreements aren’t for the world to see and comment on.

There’s far too much focus on BLM anyway. What gets lost is the hashtag existed before the organization. The organization utilized the popularity of the hashtag to create itself. Therefore, the usage of the phrase isn’t always a reference to the organization. It’s often times just a rallying cry.

It’s no different than Black Power. Stokely Carmichael created that phrase to become a sociopolitical ideology and strategy. The people couldn’t tell you what that ideology and strategy is. They simply liked the way it sounded and used it as a rallying cry. Again, too much focus on Black Lives Matter...not enough focus on actual solutions.

AsylumGuido 07-14-2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 892410)
Automation is eliminating jobs, except for those willing to work. For those people, somehow, miraculously, there's always work. For instance, ever seen a Hispanic from say El Salvador turn down work. Me either. But they're not a black American. Go down to Ft. Lauderdale airport. There are so many employed black people there. They're all Haitians, because they're not black Americans. You will quickly wonder how in the world these people who did not speak English learned the language and work so hard in their new country. When you're not entitled, when you know what real starvation is, and you know what actual lack of any opportunity looks like and you're blessed with just a chance at more, then you work and live with that reality. Black Americans know nothing about this. They're entitled, spoon fed, with an awful culture of death and fatherless children. Drugs and constant crime.

Those nasty assed American blacks. The scourge of the earth, right? Good thing you aren't prejudiced. You see things the way the really are.


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