Hasbeen a Liar ?????

Euphoria · 08-18-2005, 11:23 AM

I don't think you're putting your starters at risk... you can get hurt on anyday, any given practice... what I thought was strange however was that its a major change in Belichick's philosophy of evaluating players to playing starters. If I was Haz, I wouldn't worry about 'agreeing' to play starters for 3 quaters I would just do it. Its preseason... its what it is. Teams approach it differently.

yasoon · 08-18-2005, 11:32 AM

I don't know that Haz is ever quoted as saying that he and Bill agreed on this. They said that they had agreed to it on NFL live, but they did not say who said it. Haz is quoted as saying that this was the plan before the preseason, so it may be that ESPN got it twisted.

But, hey, strange things happen with this team. Maybe this is just part of our early move to wrench the Lombardi trophy from their hands this year

Euphoria · 08-18-2005, 11:55 AM

Sounds like we'll see what happens when it happens... tonight.

TheGambler · 08-18-2005, 11:56 AM

My point exactly, yasoon.

No sense in stirring the pot unless there is complete evidence that Haslett said this. Often times, some people are so eager and so quick to believe something negative about Haslett, and the end result is compromising their common sense in an effort to spew questionable propoganda about a potentially innocent victim.

LordOfEntropy · 08-18-2005, 12:37 PM

I was not accusing.

I was pointing out that an agreement of that nature would have been odd in the extreme from the viewpoint of the Pats.

papz · 08-18-2005, 01:05 PM

No sense in stirring the pot unless there is complete evidence that Haslett said this. Often times, some people are so eager and so quick to believe something negative about Haslett, and the end result is compromising their common sense in an effort to spew questionable propoganda about a potentially innocent victim.

Can you blame Saints fans for jumping the gun on Haslett? Probably not.

papz · 08-18-2005, 01:10 PM

After the past four season, I don't blame people from dogging Haslett if they were.

saintz08 · 08-19-2005, 09:14 PM

The interesting part of this story is that it may only be part 1 .

Commentators were commenting last night that Haslett appeared desperate for a win , It was commented on that the Patriots coaching staff was tired of getting pushed around on 3rd downs and the Patriots were starting to blitz to stop it .

While Hasbeen gets a win in preseason , the Patriots may be looking for some payback during regular season for Hasbeens little stunt .

LordOfEntropy · 08-20-2005, 01:14 AM

Haslett appeared desperate for a win

That may well be the case. Season ticket sales have been abysmal hovering somewhere around 20,000. But they're picking up after the win in Foxboro. I wouldn't be surprised if someone made Haslett a little ultimatum before they hopped on the plane.

tired of getting pushed around on 3rd downs... starting to blitz to stop it

Possible, I noticed an increase in blitzes. I wouldn't be surprised. They were in front of the home crowd in their home opener, after all.

frankeefrank · 08-20-2005, 03:00 AM

When I heard about this, I thought Has was bui9lding in an excuse to play his best guys longer than the Pats... So they could win the game.
I still think that's the case.
Has wanted to win.
Plus, it was something new.
And when you're doing something new the best way to have people not question it, is to bring in someone with a proven track record who bacs you up
IE Belichik

08-18-2005, 11:32 AM	#12
yasoon 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 594	I don't know that Haz is ever quoted as saying that he and Bill agreed on this. They said that they had agreed to it on NFL live, but they did not say who said it. Haz is quoted as saying that this was the plan before the preseason, so it may be that ESPN got it twisted. But, hey, strange things happen with this team. Maybe this is just part of our early move to wrench the Lombardi trophy from their hands this year
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08-18-2005, 11:56 AM	#14
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	My point exactly, yasoon. No sense in stirring the pot unless there is complete evidence that Haslett said this. Often times, some people are so eager and so quick to believe something negative about Haslett, and the end result is compromising their common sense in an effort to spew questionable propoganda about a potentially innocent victim.
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08-19-2005, 09:14 PM	#18
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	The interesting part of this story is that it may only be part 1 . Commentators were commenting last night that Haslett appeared desperate for a win , It was commented on that the Patriots coaching staff was tired of getting pushed around on 3rd downs and the Patriots were starting to blitz to stop it . While Hasbeen gets a win in preseason , the Patriots may be looking for some payback during regular season for Hasbeens little stunt .
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08-20-2005, 01:14 AM	#19
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Haslett appeared desperate for a win That may well be the case. Season ticket sales have been abysmal hovering somewhere around 20,000. But they're picking up after the win in Foxboro. I wouldn't be surprised if someone made Haslett a little ultimatum before they hopped on the plane. tired of getting pushed around on 3rd downs... starting to blitz to stop it Possible, I noticed an increase in blitzes. I wouldn't be surprised. They were in front of the home crowd in their home opener, after all.

08-20-2005, 03:00 AM	#20
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	When I heard about this, I thought Has was bui9lding in an excuse to play his best guys longer than the Pats... So they could win the game. I still think that's the case. Has wanted to win. Plus, it was something new. And when you're doing something new the best way to have people not question it, is to bring in someone with a proven track record who bacs you up IE Belichik
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08-18-2005, 11:23 AM	#11
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	I don't think you're putting your starters at risk... you can get hurt on anyday, any given practice... what I thought was strange however was that its a major change in Belichick's philosophy of evaluating players to playing starters. If I was Haz, I wouldn't worry about 'agreeing' to play starters for 3 quaters I would just do it. Its preseason... its what it is. Teams approach it differently.

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08-18-2005, 11:55 AM	#13
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Sounds like we'll see what happens when it happens... tonight.

08-18-2005, 12:37 PM	#15
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	I was not accusing. I was pointing out that an agreement of that nature would have been odd in the extreme from the viewpoint of the Pats.

08-18-2005, 01:05 PM	#16
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	No sense in stirring the pot unless there is complete evidence that Haslett said this. Often times, some people are so eager and so quick to believe something negative about Haslett, and the end result is compromising their common sense in an effort to spew questionable propoganda about a potentially innocent victim. Can you blame Saints fans for jumping the gun on Haslett? Probably not.

08-18-2005, 01:10 PM	#17
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	After the past four season, I don't blame people from dogging Haslett if they were.

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