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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I hope so. Early on in training camp. Hopefully some young star on another team. They'll show up for practice after a day off and test positive in the morning exam. They be placed in isolation ...

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Old 07-29-2020, 12:00 PM   #11
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Re: NFL, NFLPA enact rule prohibiting certain off-field activities with stiff punishment for violators, per report

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
I hope so. Early on in training camp. Hopefully some young star on another team. They'll show up for practice after a day off and test positive in the morning exam. They be placed in isolation and then questioned. They'll come up with some story about a McDonald's drive-thu, but word gets out they were at a club with friends. The hammer comes down. Suspended for the season with no pay and no accrued year. Lesson learned across the league.
It sounds like they mean business. That is a good thing. Sometimes these young guys get full of themselves and think they are invincible and that's usually fine. This time around a poor decision can hurt the whole team and their families.
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Old 07-29-2020, 12:07 PM   #12
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It sounds like they mean business. That is a good thing. Sometimes these young guys get full of themselves and think they are invincible and that's usually fine. This time around a poor decision can hurt the whole team and their families.
The players want to play badly and the vets are not going to put up with idiots threatening their paychecks. Very real policing happens within an NFL locker room. Kirk Morrison, former LB, said on NFL radio that team leaders will make a point with all players as soon as real camp begins how things are to be done. No if's, and's or but's.
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Old 07-29-2020, 05:36 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
I hope so. Early on in training camp. Hopefully some young star on another team. They'll show up for practice after a day off and test positive in the morning exam. They be placed in isolation and then questioned. They'll come up with some story about a McDonald's drive-thu, but word gets out they were at a club with friends. The hammer comes down. Suspended for the season with no pay and no accrued year. Lesson learned across the league.
Get realistic, no one would get suspended for a season for getting sick no matter how stupid the excuse. Lou Williams of the Clippers went to a strip club on his approved leave for a funeral and all he got from the NBA was a 10 day quarantine
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Old 07-29-2020, 05:38 PM   #14
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You have to understand the growing demographics of the NFL fan. For example, the fans that seem to be upset about some kneeling protest are limited to a small percentage of white, conservative, mostly southern Americans. Fans in other countries have no issue with it. Ethnic Americans and domestic foreigners have no issue with it. Blacks fans have no issue with it. Liberal fans have no issue with it. The vast majority of moderate fans have no issue with it. Native Americans and other North American indigenous people have no issue with it.

The NFL fanbase is absolutely the most diverse fanbase of any sport in the world. It is the perfect model for economic success. If every fan that is so sensitive that something like that bothers them to the point of giving up great entertainment gallantly decides to, and actually does not watch another NFL game for the rest of their lives it will not be a blip on the NFL's bottom line.

That is a fact. The only thing that can affect the NFL bottom line is a global pandemic, another world war, or perhaps end times.

But back to domestic abuse, rape and murder. There is no more occurrences of any of these things in the NFL than in any other sector of public life. Perhaps even less per capita, to be honest. When it does rarely happen it is more visible than the couple down the street, or what happened in the park near your home last night, or what happens multiple times in every decent sized city on a daily basis.
I think you're making assumptions about fans around the world and their opinions of players...

You argue it's less prevalent in the NFL than public life but how do you know? All we do know is the NFL lies to protect it's image and therefore less cases come to light. Besides, multi-million dollar athletes committing crime isn't an apples-to-apples comparison with John Q Public. They make more in a week than most make in a year. So they should be held to a higher standard. Their gifts are physical and although admired, don't make them any better than you and me.

I wasn't referring to protests but since you brought it up, viewership did decline around the protests. Neither of us can say for certain it was solely due to protests but it's likely. You can google the data.

However, you've accurately pointed out protests didn't stop most fans (including me) from tuning in and spending money. Personally, I thought the issue was overblown.

But here's what I think you're missing:

The NFL has knowingly covered up:
- Rape
- Murder
- Domestic Abuse
- Critical Health Safety & Science
- Concussion Data
- "Pay for Performance" Hoaxes (I threw that on in because I'm still salty)

Life has a funny way of being cyclical and the NFL is not immune to history. One day, it will lose it's luster and my money is on fans finding something more entertaining to watch.


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Get realistic, no one would get suspended for a season for getting sick no matter how stupid the excuse. Lou Williams of the Clippers went to a strip club on his approved leave for a funeral and all he got from the NBA was a 10 day quarantine
Ragin, it is in the guidelines provided by the NFLPA to their members. If they become infected through any method but essential trips they will be suspended. They are coming down hard to control.
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I think you're making assumptions about fans around the world and their opinions of players...

You argue it's less prevalent in the NFL than public life but how do you know? All we do know is the NFL lies to protect it's image and therefore less cases come to light. Besides, multi-million dollar athletes committing crime isn't an apples-to-apples comparison with John Q Public. They make more in a week than most make in a year. So they should be held to a higher standard. Their gifts are physical and although admired, don't make them any better than you and me.

I wasn't referring to protests but since you brought it up, viewership did decline around the protests. Neither of us can say for certain it was solely due to protests but it's likely. You can google the data.

However, you've accurately pointed out protests didn't stop most fans (including me) from tuning in and spending money. Personally, I thought the issue was overblown.

But here's what I think you're missing:

The NFL has knowingly covered up:
- Rape
- Murder
- Domestic Abuse
- Critical Health Safety & Science
- Concussion Data
- "Pay for Performance" Hoaxes (I threw that on in because I'm still salty)

Life has a funny way of being cyclical and the NFL is not immune to history. One day, it will lose it's luster and my money is on fans finding something more entertaining to watch.


I don't need to google the data. I have went over it in detail the past decade. The nominal declines also coincided with the introduction of streaming services, Red Zone Channel, the popularity of central viewing points such as sports bars and such which do not count in the numbers, etc. This decline started BEFORE any of the protests started. Those on both sides of the political spectrum want to claim it is because of them. Wrong. Technology. Sorry.
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Re: NFL, NFLPA enact rule prohibiting certain off-field activities with stiff punishment for violators, per report

Of course you don’t have to google. You know it all
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Ragin, it is in the guidelines provided by the NFLPA to their members. If they become infected through any method but essential trips they will be suspended. They are coming down hard to control.
I’m still calling BS until I see it
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I’m still calling BS until I see it
That's fine. You are showing the ability to reserve judgement, albeit in a reverse order from normal.

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Of course you don’t have to google. You know it all
I'm am a retired analyst with all the time in the world at my hands (after taking care of the working wife) and spend much time already googling everything to do with the Saints and the NFL. Also manage to get in a five to six mile walk daily and cook every meal for the past 32 year of married bliss. Not to mention yard work, home repair, church volunteering.

Thank you very much!

No I don't know it all. But I have made it a point to learn everything I can about something I care about.
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