hitta

Not only is it an irrelevant argument, it is an irrational one as well as it's assuming that the death rate will always be below the rates of the diseases/illnesses he listed above. When NY was at its peak death rate, you were seeing between 2300-2700 deaths a day., We are having between 60-70k infections now, far more than we did during that period. I still think the infections could rise up to 100-150k a day. The deaths per day could end up dwarfing those that he listed above. Another thing that people don't think about also is whether or not the disease causes long term damage to the person. There is increasing evidence that the virus could cause lasting damage to the person. Inflammation is being found all over the body(especially in the heart) well after the infection has supposedly been cleared and the person is testing negative and has IGG antibodies. This virus may leave a person with issues for the rest of their life. If you've asked anyone that's had it how they feel after the infection cleared,.. I know a pretty healthy person that had it that used to run between 5-10 miles 4-5 days a week. Now he's struggling to get anywhere close to that, as he's laboring far more than he did at any point in the past. He supposedly cleared the virus almost a month and a half ago.

It's becoming fairly annoying watching people turn the virus into a political thing. Both parties are guilty of this. A lot of Republicans want to dismiss the virus as liberal hysteria. Democrats try to use to the virus as a political tool to blame Republicans for pretty much anything they can think of incessantly. The virus pretty much highlights all of the political BS that exists in this country.

There is a virus. The virus is incredibly harmful to society. All of the problems that exist right now are not Republicans fault. I mean we may have dismissed one of the best treatments we currently have in hydroxychloroquine in the name of politics. Most of the studies that are being used by liberals to debase it are horrible. These studies don't even take into account the theory of how hydroxychloroquine is supposed to stop the virus(as Zinc is necessary to the process). So now you have the FDA telling people not the use hydroxychloroquine and liberals making fun of anyone that does, and we don't even know if it works or not because politics disrupted our ability to properly gauge its worth. There are a lot of studies that seem to indicate that the drug works when used in combination with other things, but these are largely overlooked and dismissed. I'm not saying that the drug certainly works, but the way we've approached it is childish. You have social media sites blocking posts in which link studies citing that the posts violate their policy on disinformation.

I just feel like we are truly on the brink of civil war. I think Biden being elected and doing things that really disturb conservatives while in office could be the spark. You have liberals already being violent. Conservatives are angry but haven't gotten violent yet. Once conservatives get angry enough to turn to violence, you are right there at mutual violence, which tends to grow exponentially.

spkb25

Imagine all the people, hoohooo, 7 billion dying in 100 years. Gonna happen, the end of everyon3s road. Its easy if you try, hoodoo

Now Doug Peterson has it, all players are getting it. Get people used to no football, starve the animals, fingers crossed

hitta

Apparently all of the Cardinals are testing positive because the Marlins didn't follow the rules.

Rugby Saint II

hitta made a good point. It's not just the deaths that are disturbing. It's the ongoing lung and heart problems. Just because you've had it doesn't mean anything other than you've got more trips to the ER down the road.

AsylumGuido

Nope. A few of the idiot Cardinal players "reportedly" hit a strip club at a casino. The other 28 teams following their protocols (albeit no where near as strict as NFL protocols) are experiencing no issues.

AsylumGuido

It's my understanding that those heart and lung problems are associated with symptomatic cases, not asymptomatic cases. If you have pneumonia for example (with no COVID) you can experience difficulties with lung damage later, as well.

saintsfan1976

CFR vs IFR tell two stories. Especially when you account for age.

I'm not here to argue either but narratives change with both numbers.

Bottom line; wear a mask and don't infect grandma.

hitta

The early IFR studies are horrible, because they have atrocious selection bias. When you are basing antibody prevalence in a community based on facebook ads, this is not a good study. When you choose an area in Germany which had a super spreader event, this is not a good study. When you choose grocery store shoppers as your basis for antibodies(when they are the most likely people to contract the virus), this is not a good study. These studies are very sensitive as the populations used to test are very small, which in turn makes the numerator/denominator problem even more pronounced. There is problems with testing the virus while the virus is still prevalent. What happens is the people that are most likely to have antibodies are the ones that are tested for antibodies.

hitta

Two things people should be focusing on, raising their vitamin D levels(taking both Vitamin D3 and K2) and taking some sort of supplementation to raise glutathione levels(n-acetyl cysteine and glycine or S-acetyl glutathione). Both vitamin D and glutathione levels have a very strong inverse correlation with covid mortality. Liposomal Vitamin C and Zinc supplements(such as lozenges) aren't bad choice either. One of the biggest keys seems to be lowering the amount of IL-6 and TNF-α that your immune system responds with.

Rugby Saint II

I know of people with no underlying problems who are having complications. They are losing their hair and having breathing issues. Also the fatigue stays with you for a much longer time. We are still collecting data on the new virus. And we will, once again, have to rethink everything we learned yesterday, last week and since this virus came to our shores.