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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 894251)

C'mon Marcus, adding bulk/muscle won't help with tackling. That starts at an early age (pop warner/jr high) with proper technique and coaching.

Was watching episode 2 of Hard Knocks last night and they had Derwin Williams (year 2 safety) mic'd up. He loves contact, dish out snot bubbles and make you pay coming across the middle of the field. Only 2 seasons under his belt and is already a form tackler.

Go low, head up, wrap up.

If it makes you feel any better, Williams was considered the best tackler on Utah's defense and opposing coaches called him one of the best tacklers in the Pac-12. He had some gaudy stat for least missed tackles in a season. His coach said you can run him over. (referring to his size) but he was gonna latch on to you and eventually pull you down.

More bulk could be exactly what he needs.

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints Training Camp

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 894256)

Not looking to feel better Utah Saint. Marcus needs to wrap up. This isn't lip service. Coach Payton and Glenn recently said this.

He's not playing in college anymore.

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Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints Training Camp

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 894254)

I'm a bit more reserved. I realized though today after hearing another round of "Brady blah blah blah this." and "Brady Tampa six rings that." and all that noise that it's critical for the Saints to go 1-0 and punch both the Bucs and the national media right in the face.

In fact I'm calling it. The Saints will be up so much in the 4th quarter on September 13th that Payton is going to send Winston in for cleanup. The dude is going throw two more TDs and send the Yuccs running home with their tail between their legs. Think 2009 Saints/Patriots in terms of the beatdown.

SFIAH

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Adding more bulk is worthless if your technique isn't correct.

The Minnesota thing didn't happen because he wasn't muscular enough to bring down Diggs, it happened because he forgot the basic fundamentals of tackling and just lunged at Diggs like a fish.

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints Training Camp

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 894251)

Have you tried that? On anyone, much less someone heavier and stronger than your self?
It is only 1/3 of the tackling formula and you do not go low, you put your facemask in the numbers. His numbers will always move in the direction of the ball and if you lead with your facemask your head is always up.

A perfect tackle has 3 parts.
1. Contact form as you mentioned. Facemask in the numbers and wrap the arms.

2. Drive after contact, if you do not have your feet you so not have sh1t. I can wrap you perfectly but if I am not on my feet and driving, you can drag me or run me over. (This is why launching at someone is rarely fruitful)

3. Pure physics. With the best technique, all the heart, and every bit of the leg drive in the world 155lb Brandon Banks will never in his wildest dreams change Marshawn Lynch's momentum.

Heavier and stronger players have an advantage and do not have to exert as much effort with #2 as because their force (Mass x acceleration) has a bigger effect on stopping the ball carriers momentum.:bng:

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints Training Camp

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 894261)

Adding more bulk is worthless if your technique isn't correct.

+1.

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints Training Camp

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 894261)

The Minnesota thing didn't happen because he wasn't muscular enough to bring down Diggs, it happened because he forgot the basic fundamentals of tackling and just lunged at Diggs like a fish.

In fairness to Marcus, that's just one bad play where he also made a lot of good plays as a rookie.

It's cool that he's analyzed his 2019 tape, identified his weakness (tackling) and accepted the challenge to get better. He has quality vets around to encourage and mentor.

We shall see.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 894264)

He was a Rookie in a Playoff Game where Dennis Allen and Sean Payton had just gave in-game short instruction on avoiding a pass interference or like penalty...

Factor all of that as well as Mr. Marcus' interception that got us back into that game...

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Wrapping up with good form and Gang Tackling are how you get the Marshawn Lynch's to the ground...

And I bet $1 Ronnie Lott would've put Marshawn Lynch on his arse; in fact, Payton oughta bring in Lott for an inservice with the defensive backs...

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