Just watched the Panthers game

saintswhodi · 08-20-2005, 11:07 PM

Man, this thread is so dead, there's an echo. I'll make a post so that if someone throws a quarter in here, there's a bottom to hit. Otherwise it would be an eternal pit.

TheGambler · 08-21-2005, 01:03 AM

I saw that INT you are referring to, BlackOnBlack...

If Brooks had thrown that same INT, we'd be hearing about till the end of the season. It was a terrible throw. Not QUITE as bad as Brady and McNabb's, but pretty bad.

Jake bounced back to play pretty good after that, however. At least the bits and pieces I saw of it.

natedogg02 · 08-21-2005, 02:07 PM

I agree, you always here Jake this, Jake that, but no one talks about how many int's he throws. He's lucky he's got a good D and a good running game or he'd look like Ryan Leaf. LOL

BoudinSandwich · 08-21-2005, 02:36 PM

The thing is, most Panther fans think Delhomme is gold. They love their quarterback and their team leader. Most Saints fans (an example of this fact can be seen in the Brooks Poll thread) don't think very much of their quarterback.

The difference being this: Jake Delhomme does not possess great skill. He's not the most athletically gifted quarterback. He mostly relies on his heart and leadership skills to get by. Delhomme makes mistakes because he just doesn't have the talent to back up what his brain wants to do.

Brooks, compared to Jake Delhomme, is completely opposite. Brooks has incredible passing skills. He can deliver accurate bullets while throwing off of his back foot. He has an incredible longball. However, people have complained about Brooks' leadership skills. Also, Aaron Brooks has the talent necessary NOT to make mistakes such as fumbling and having the ball mysteriously fly backwards out of his hands.

saintswhodi · 08-21-2005, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

Man, this thread is so dead, there's an echo. I'll make a post so that if someone throws a quarter in here, there's a bottom to hit. Otherwise it would be an eternal pit.

Dead thread or not, I made you a promise and i'm gonna keep that promise. Like Gambler said if Brooks had made that throw you would've been in here dogging him like you have the entire offseason. When Jake screws up, which he does at a extreme rate, you're right there are crickets at your house.

You're kidding right? I said in the SOME IMPROVEMENT thread Brooks looked sharp against the Pats D AND said the INT was Horn's fault cause Brooks threw the ball well. Don't lie to prove a point. Get a clue.

Memnoch_TP · 08-21-2005, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

Man, this thread is so dead, there's an echo. I'll make a post so that if someone throws a quarter in here, there's a bottom to hit. Otherwise it would be an eternal pit.

Dead thread or not, I made you a promise and i'm gonna keep that promise. Like Gambler said if Brooks had made that throw you would've been in here dogging him like you have the entire offseason. When Jake screws up, which he does at a extreme rate, you're right there are crickets at your house.

Yes, this is the type of double standard that is so typical when one person gets the job done and one person doesnt. Fans, and coaches for that matter, have a little more tolerance for a 2 year starter to make a mistake and still continue to be productive than they do for a 4 year starter to make a mistake and still continue to be mediocre.

Memnoch_TP · 08-21-2005, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by natedogg02

I agree, you always here Jake this, Jake that, but no one talks about how many int's he throws. He's lucky he's got a good D and a good running game or he'd look like Ryan Leaf. LOL

So, you think the Panthers would have gone to the Super Bowl in 2003 season if they had kept Peete starting? Think Weinke would have gotten them there?

How does everyone tout Brooks' stats, and then pretend to not see that even with his #1 WR out and using his 6th sting RB that Jake put up numbers that were comprable to AB, Favre, Hasselbeck, Bulger, and Plummer?

AB has had Joe Montanna come out and coach him in the off season, he spent his first years studying under Brett Favre, and has been given every chance to prove what he can do. And the seven year vet has proven it. He can choke.

Jake has had AB to learn from, which is like studying criminology under the Keystone Cops, and has led his team to a Super Bowl, barely missed the playoff the next year after his team was RAVAGED by injuries, and is expected to be a contender again this year.

The comparison between Jake and AB is a fultile one. They are close in all the stats except the ones that matter. In those, well. Who has the most wins in the last two years? Most playoff wins? Most Super Bowl appearances?

Brooks could fumble every game, and if we still won, no one would care. But we dont, so we do. F AB

WhoDat · 08-21-2005, 05:38 PM

I agree, you always here Jake this, Jake that, but no one talks about how many int's he throws. He's lucky he's got a good D and a good running game or he'd look like Ryan Leaf. LOL

LMAO. Spoken like a person who has never seen Jake play. So many INTs? As in - less turnovers than AB in the last two years?

08-21-2005, 01:03 AM	#2
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	I saw that INT you are referring to, BlackOnBlack... If Brooks had thrown that same INT, we'd be hearing about till the end of the season. It was a terrible throw. Not QUITE as bad as Brady and McNabb's, but pretty bad. Jake bounced back to play pretty good after that, however. At least the bits and pieces I saw of it.
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natedogg02 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 145	I agree, you always here Jake this, Jake that, but no one talks about how many int's he throws. He's lucky he's got a good D and a good running game or he'd look like Ryan Leaf. LOL
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08-21-2005, 03:21 PM	#5
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack Man, this thread is so dead, there's an echo. I'll make a post so that if someone throws a quarter in here, there's a bottom to hit. Otherwise it would be an eternal pit. Dead thread or not, I made you a promise and i'm gonna keep that promise. Like Gambler said if Brooks had made that throw you would've been in here dogging him like you have the entire offseason. When Jake screws up, which he does at a extreme rate, you're right there are crickets at your house. You're kidding right? I said in the SOME IMPROVEMENT thread Brooks looked sharp against the Pats D AND said the INT was Horn's fault cause Brooks threw the ball well. Don't lie to prove a point. Get a clue.

08-21-2005, 05:10 PM	#6
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack Man, this thread is so dead, there's an echo. I'll make a post so that if someone throws a quarter in here, there's a bottom to hit. Otherwise it would be an eternal pit. Dead thread or not, I made you a promise and i'm gonna keep that promise. Like Gambler said if Brooks had made that throw you would've been in here dogging him like you have the entire offseason. When Jake screws up, which he does at a extreme rate, you're right there are crickets at your house. Yes, this is the type of double standard that is so typical when one person gets the job done and one person doesnt. Fans, and coaches for that matter, have a little more tolerance for a 2 year starter to make a mistake and still continue to be productive than they do for a 4 year starter to make a mistake and still continue to be mediocre.
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08-21-2005, 05:25 PM	#7
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Originally Posted by natedogg02 I agree, you always here Jake this, Jake that, but no one talks about how many int's he throws. He's lucky he's got a good D and a good running game or he'd look like Ryan Leaf. LOL So, you think the Panthers would have gone to the Super Bowl in 2003 season if they had kept Peete starting? Think Weinke would have gotten them there? How does everyone tout Brooks' stats, and then pretend to not see that even with his #1 WR out and using his 6th sting RB that Jake put up numbers that were comprable to AB, Favre, Hasselbeck, Bulger, and Plummer? AB has had Joe Montanna come out and coach him in the off season, he spent his first years studying under Brett Favre, and has been given every chance to prove what he can do. And the seven year vet has proven it. He can choke. Jake has had AB to learn from, which is like studying criminology under the Keystone Cops, and has led his team to a Super Bowl, barely missed the playoff the next year after his team was RAVAGED by injuries, and is expected to be a contender again this year. The comparison between Jake and AB is a fultile one. They are close in all the stats except the ones that matter. In those, well. Who has the most wins in the last two years? Most playoff wins? Most Super Bowl appearances? Brooks could fumble every game, and if we still won, no one would care. But we dont, so we do. F AB
	"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams.

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BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	The thing is, most Panther fans think Delhomme is gold. They love their quarterback and their team leader. Most Saints fans (an example of this fact can be seen in the Brooks Poll thread) don't think very much of their quarterback. The difference being this: Jake Delhomme does not possess great skill. He's not the most athletically gifted quarterback. He mostly relies on his heart and leadership skills to get by. Delhomme makes mistakes because he just doesn't have the talent to back up what his brain wants to do. Brooks, compared to Jake Delhomme, is completely opposite. Brooks has incredible passing skills. He can deliver accurate bullets while throwing off of his back foot. He has an incredible longball. However, people have complained about Brooks' leadership skills. Also, Aaron Brooks has the talent necessary NOT to make mistakes such as fumbling and having the ball mysteriously fly backwards out of his hands.

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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	I agree, you always here Jake this, Jake that, but no one talks about how many int's he throws. He's lucky he's got a good D and a good running game or he'd look like Ryan Leaf. LOL LMAO. Spoken like a person who has never seen Jake play. So many INTs? As in - less turnovers than AB in the last two years?
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