Malcolm Jenkins thinks Saints are 'closer' after Brees' comments

spkb25 · 08-24-2020, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

If we could just stop choking .

Purty sure Drew's gonna be choking on something all season.

jeanpierre · 08-24-2020, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Purty sure Drew's gonna be choking on something all season.

Know Drew had that terrible interception in the red zone vs the Vikes, but I put that one on Payton...

Really, Really believe Brees was as surprised as anyone he was going back in when Taysom and Latavius were absolutely trucking that Vikes D when, Payton gets in the Double Reverse Mode...

And Brees was sent back in, there was confusion with the play call, as well as personnel goming in and, voila, interception...

Payton. Sean Payton should have stayed with the power game that was working and destroyed the Vikes' will at that point of the game...

Payton. Choking starts at the top, and Payton has got to place himself on the hotseat, get real fear back, then the Saints will be better than 2009-10...

Payton. Payton has got too much job security, tenure, and that's why we've bungled and failed despite having the greatest passer of all time...

SmashMouth · 08-25-2020, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Know Drew had that terrible interception in the red zone vs the Vikes, but I put that one on Payton...

Really, Really believe Brees was as surprised as anyone he was going back in when Taysom and Latavius were absolutely trucking that Vikes D when, Payton gets in the Double Reverse Mode, and Brees went back in...

There was confusion with the play and personnel coming in and, voila, interception...

Payton. Sean Payton should have stay with the power game and destroyed the Vikes' will at that point of the game...

Payton. The choking starts at the top, and Payton has got to place himself on the hotseat and then he'll get that real fear back and then the Saints will be even better than 2009-10...

He's got too much job security, and that's why we've bungled...

True... He bungled the last three opportunities to make the big dance.

The Dude · 08-25-2020, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

True... He bungled the last three opportunities to make the big dance.

Offensive line didn’t help but you guys have a solid point. Stick with the hot hand.

K Major · 08-25-2020, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

He's got too much job security, and that's why we've bungled...

Or too much power perhaps?

Sean P doesn't answer to anyone really ... I mean no one will really questions (except the Butcher at Whole Foods

) his decisions. Not even his assistant coaches.

There is no way Brees, a soon to be first ballot Hall of Famer should exit left with only 1 Lombardi on his mantle. As Saints fans, do we want to win 11, 12 regular season games again this year or compete for titles in late January?

It has become apparent that we aren't closers.

AsylumGuido · 08-25-2020, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Or too much power perhaps?

Sean P doesn't answer to anyone really ... I mean no one will really questions (except the Butcher at Whole Foods ) his decisions. Not even his assistant coaches.

There is no way Brees, a soon to be first ballot Hall of Famer should exit left with only 1 Lombardi on his mantle. As Saints fans, do we want to win 11, 12 regular season games again this year or compete for titles in late January?

It has become apparent that we aren't closers.

31 teams EVERY year aren't closers. It take a great deal of luck to win it all. We have competed for a championship each of the past three seasons and should have another chance this year. Where's that coach that will guarantee us the championship? Belechick hasn't won it every time even when handed to them on a platter.

jeanpierre · 08-25-2020, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

31 teams EVERY year aren't closers. It take a great deal of luck to win it all. We have competed for a championship each of the past three seasons and should have another chance this year. Where's that coach that will guarantee us the championship? Belechick hasn't won it every time even when handed to them on a platter.

I'd like to have seen what Belichick would've done with Brees; know Payton doesn't win a Superbowl with Brady, despite my respect for Brady after beating the ATL in the Tournament...

Belichick has always had great personnel people around him, asked tough questions, trusted their guidance; we've only had Ireland four years, but is Payton listening?

AsylumGuido · 08-25-2020, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'd like to have seen what Belichick would've done with Brees...

Belichick has always had great personnel people around him, asked tough questions, trusted their guidance; we've only had Ireland four years, but is Payton listening?

We can't get Belechick. Name the coach that you feel would be an immediate upgrade to Payton and give us continued future success including guaranteed Lombardi's. If you can I'll jump onboard right away.

jeanpierre · 08-25-2020, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

We can't get Belechick. Name the coach that you feel would be an immediate upgrade to Payton and give us continued future success including guaranteed Lombardi's. If you can I'll jump onboard right away.

It's more about what KMajor is alluding, he's got too much sway in personnel decisions and he doesn't have the best GM (Loomis), nor VP Free Agent Talent (Fontenot) - these are the areas we've failed miserably...

That going all in mode, especially in the draft, has not worked in four years...

You know what saw the best improvement, when Ireland first arrived and we trusted the draft process and we made moves for add'l draft picks, not traded them away willy-nilly on players that aren't durable...

And well-run corporation has power distributed amongst competent people and right not, that front office needs some work and redistributing of authority, and Kmajor called it...

AsylumGuido · 08-25-2020, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'd like to have seen what Belichick would've done with Brees; know Payton doesn't win a Superbowl with Brady, despite my respect for Brady after beating the ATL in the Tournament...

Belichick has always had great personnel people around him, asked tough questions, trusted their guidance; we've only had Ireland four years, but is Payton listening?

How do you know Payton doesn't win a Super Bowl with Brady? The Patriots have been given a free ride to the Bowl for the past two decades. With that weak assed division they were guaranteed a first or second seed every year.

08-24-2020, 07:34 PM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Malcolm Jenkins thinks Saints are 'closer' after Brees' comments Originally Posted by The Dude If we could just stop choking . Purty sure Drew's gonna be choking on something all season. The Dude likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Malcolm Jenkins thinks Saints are 'closer' after Brees' comments Originally Posted by spkb25 Purty sure Drew's gonna be choking on something all season. Know Drew had that terrible interception in the red zone vs the Vikes, but I put that one on Payton... Really, Really believe Brees was as surprised as anyone he was going back in when Taysom and Latavius were absolutely trucking that Vikes D when, Payton gets in the Double Reverse Mode... And Brees was sent back in, there was confusion with the play call, as well as personnel goming in and, voila, interception... Payton. Sean Payton should have stayed with the power game that was working and destroyed the Vikes' will at that point of the game... Payton. Choking starts at the top, and Payton has got to place himself on the hotseat, get real fear back, then the Saints will be better than 2009-10... Payton. Payton has got too much job security, tenure, and that's why we've bungled and failed despite having the greatest passer of all time... SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,962 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Malcolm Jenkins thinks Saints are 'closer' after Brees' comments Originally Posted by jeanpierre Know Drew had that terrible interception in the red zone vs the Vikes, but I put that one on Payton... Really, Really believe Brees was as surprised as anyone he was going back in when Taysom and Latavius were absolutely trucking that Vikes D when, Payton gets in the Double Reverse Mode, and Brees went back in... There was confusion with the play and personnel coming in and, voila, interception... Payton. Sean Payton should have stay with the power game and destroyed the Vikes' will at that point of the game... Payton. The choking starts at the top, and Payton has got to place himself on the hotseat and then he'll get that real fear back and then the Saints will be even better than 2009-10... He's got too much job security, and that's why we've bungled... True... He bungled the last three opportunities to make the big dance. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Malcolm Jenkins thinks Saints are 'closer' after Brees' comments Originally Posted by jeanpierre He's got too much job security, and that's why we've bungled... Or too much power perhaps? Sean P doesn't answer to anyone really ... I mean no one will really questions (except the Butcher at Whole Foods ) his decisions. Not even his assistant coaches. There is no way Brees, a soon to be first ballot Hall of Famer should exit left with only 1 Lombardi on his mantle. As Saints fans, do we want to win 11, 12 regular season games again this year or compete for titles in late January? It has become apparent that we aren't closers. jeanpierre likes this.

08-25-2020, 08:25 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,703	Re: Malcolm Jenkins thinks Saints are 'closer' after Brees' comments Originally Posted by K Major Or too much power perhaps? Sean P doesn't answer to anyone really ... I mean no one will really questions (except the Butcher at Whole Foods ) his decisions. Not even his assistant coaches. There is no way Brees, a soon to be first ballot Hall of Famer should exit left with only 1 Lombardi on his mantle. As Saints fans, do we want to win 11, 12 regular season games again this year or compete for titles in late January? It has become apparent that we aren't closers. 31 teams EVERY year aren't closers. It take a great deal of luck to win it all. We have competed for a championship each of the past three seasons and should have another chance this year. Where's that coach that will guarantee us the championship? Belechick hasn't won it every time even when handed to them on a platter.

08-25-2020, 08:32 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Malcolm Jenkins thinks Saints are 'closer' after Brees' comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido 31 teams EVERY year aren't closers. It take a great deal of luck to win it all. We have competed for a championship each of the past three seasons and should have another chance this year. Where's that coach that will guarantee us the championship? Belechick hasn't won it every time even when handed to them on a platter. I'd like to have seen what Belichick would've done with Brees; know Payton doesn't win a Superbowl with Brady, despite my respect for Brady after beating the ATL in the Tournament... Belichick has always had great personnel people around him, asked tough questions, trusted their guidance; we've only had Ireland four years, but is Payton listening? K Major likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,703	Re: Malcolm Jenkins thinks Saints are 'closer' after Brees' comments Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'd like to have seen what Belichick would've done with Brees... Belichick has always had great personnel people around him, asked tough questions, trusted their guidance; we've only had Ireland four years, but is Payton listening? We can't get Belechick. Name the coach that you feel would be an immediate upgrade to Payton and give us continued future success including guaranteed Lombardi's. If you can I'll jump onboard right away.

08-25-2020, 08:47 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Malcolm Jenkins thinks Saints are 'closer' after Brees' comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido We can't get Belechick. Name the coach that you feel would be an immediate upgrade to Payton and give us continued future success including guaranteed Lombardi's. If you can I'll jump onboard right away. It's more about what KMajor is alluding, he's got too much sway in personnel decisions and he doesn't have the best GM (Loomis), nor VP Free Agent Talent (Fontenot) - these are the areas we've failed miserably... That going all in mode, especially in the draft, has not worked in four years... You know what saw the best improvement, when Ireland first arrived and we trusted the draft process and we made moves for add'l draft picks, not traded them away willy-nilly on players that aren't durable... And well-run corporation has power distributed amongst competent people and right not, that front office needs some work and redistributing of authority, and Kmajor called it... K Major likes this.
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08-25-2020, 08:39 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,703	Re: Malcolm Jenkins thinks Saints are 'closer' after Brees' comments Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'd like to have seen what Belichick would've done with Brees; know Payton doesn't win a Superbowl with Brady, despite my respect for Brady after beating the ATL in the Tournament... Belichick has always had great personnel people around him, asked tough questions, trusted their guidance; we've only had Ireland four years, but is Payton listening? How do you know Payton doesn't win a Super Bowl with Brady? The Patriots have been given a free ride to the Bowl for the past two decades. With that weak assed division they were guaranteed a first or second seed every year.