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Danno 09-03-2020 10:41 AM

Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year
 
Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year




NEW ORLEANS — The NFL’s 2020 season will be unprecedented and not just because of the Coronavirus and fewer fans in the stands.

The league is taking a large and visual stand against racism.

Wednesday, – crews in New Orleans worked on signage outside the Mercedes Benz Superdome.

Inside, the turf is down, and we are one step closer to the Saints home opener on Sept. 13.

This year, the NFL will emphasize its initiatives and commitment to bringing about racial equality and social justice.

Former LSU and NFL defensive tackle Marlon Favorite said it’s about time.

“I think that uncomfortable conversation is most definitely necessary right now,” Favorite said. “I think this does put the league going in the right direction for the systemic issues we’ve been dealing with in America.”

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell confirmed the phrases "It Takes All of Us" and "End Racism" would appear in NFL end zones this season.

Saints fans walking by the dome applauded the league for taking a stand.

“Showing unity and peace in this world,” Emile Young said. “That’s what we need for everyday life.”

“It needs to end, honestly,” Wendy Saddy said. “It’s freedom of speech and it sets a good example.”

Braden Robinson decided not to renew his Saints season tickets when players started kneeling in protest during the national anthem.

The 22-year Army veteran said he agrees with the cause, but not the forum.

“I don’t think anybody wants politics interjected into sports, at all,” Robinson said. “It’s not what you pay for. People go to games to relax. They go to escape.”

https://www.wwltv.com/article/sports...f-44984aa30c07

frydaddy 09-03-2020 11:00 AM

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Well that oughta do it. Everyone knows the best way to bring about change is to stencil words onto a football field.

Seriously though, the actual best way to end racism would be to end the democratic party and do away with legacy media. Otherwise it will be resurrected every election cycle.

iceshack149 09-03-2020 11:25 AM

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Welp. The NFL did it. They ended racism. How brave and honorable.

iceshack149 09-03-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 895393)
Saints adding 'End Racism' to end zones this year


Braden Robinson decided not to renew his Saints season tickets when players started kneeling in protest during the national anthem.

The 22-year Army veteran said he agrees with the cause, but not the forum.

“I don’t think anybody wants politics interjected into sports, at all,” Robinson said. “It’s not what you pay for. People go to games to relax. They go to escape.”

https://www.wwltv.com/article/sports...f-44984aa30c07

These are exactly my thoughts and I think it's safe to assume that the majority of NFL fans feel this way as well.

Don't post a poll, Guido...

jeanpierre 09-03-2020 11:32 AM

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Brilliant move, Goodell. Really, brilliant to be proactive about an issue that deflects from something the NFL has the worst reputation - Domestic Violence...

Now all that bad press falls away...

Rugby Saint II 09-03-2020 11:34 AM

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End racism. Nothing wrong with that. However, I just don't believe that will actually do the job. It's just an obvious appeasement of the BLM movement which doesn't matter to me one way or the other. It's all political now. What happened to a relaxing Sunday watching football in peace without getting political?

AsylumGuido 09-03-2020 11:57 AM

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End racism. Nothing wrong with that. However, I just don't believe that will actually do the job. It's just an obvious appeasement of the BLM movement which doesn't matter to me one way or the other. It's all political now. What happened to a relaxing Sunday watching football in peace without getting political?

It's easy. Just ignore the political parts and enjoy the game itself. Only seven days until the first kickoff and ten days until the start of our second Lombardi run! I can't wait!!

SmashMouth 09-03-2020 02:28 PM

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The Dude 09-03-2020 03:24 PM

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I’m fine with that.
If it gets to the point where announcers talk about social issues throughout the entire game it’s going to get old. I watch the games for entertainment and not public service announcements. Sometimes you need an escape from everyday life and to me that’s football. It doesn’t mean I disagree with their message.

AsylumGuido 09-03-2020 03:40 PM

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I’m fine with that.
If it gets to the point where announcers talk about social issues throughout the entire game it’s going to get old. I watch the games for entertainment and not public service announcements. Sometimes you need an escape from everyday life and to me that’s football. It doesn’t mean I disagree with their message.

No doubt we'll hear quite bit of that in week one, but before long the entertainment will take over.

Beastmode 09-03-2020 03:52 PM

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Racism isn't a crime. Technically ending it is against the law. As the black Benson character from the Show Benson said, he does not like the KKK but they have rights and I feel the same way.

Very dangerous saying groups not hurting anyone can't exist. What other groups are next. End conservatives, end Progressives, end BLM, end a religious group. Just a bad message. Nobody is ending racism. If one wants to hate something it's a personal freedom.


Eventually these fringe groups will get smaller and smaller by just leaving them alone which they already were just so long as they are not hurting anyone physically or financially. Just ignore them.

AsylumGuido 09-03-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 895435)
Racism isn't a crime. Technically ending it is against the law. As the black Benson character from the Show Benson said, he does not like the KKK but they have rights and I feel the same way.

Very dangerous saying groups not hurting anyone can't exist. What other groups are next. End conservatives, end Progressives, end BLM, end a religious group. Just a bad message. Nobody is ending racism. If one wants to hate something it's a personal freedom.


Eventually these fringe groups will get smaller and smaller by just leaving them alone which they already were just so long as they are not hurting anyone physically or financially. Just ignore them.

I really don't feel the message is being sent to fringe groups. Racism is wrong. It cannot be made a crime, per se, as you mention, but it is still wrong. We can only hope future generations learn from our mistakes. Maybe some kid will reject the hate being taught by their parent. Maybe someone will actually reconsider how they have perceived others to this point. I don't know. But doing something to attempt to address this very human problem is better than doing nothing, right?

Beastmode 09-03-2020 04:13 PM

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Morally racism is wrong. Legally it's a personal freedom. I just don't get the point of attacking personal freedoms.

Attacking people who own guns for example and then trying to pass law after law to restrict them as much as possible to the point they can no longer own them until the freedom is now a crime...meh.

What is next for the endzone message. End Guns Now. Think it can't happen. Of course it can. Eventually all freedoms will be gone. Think you have a right to not stand for the flag. Just wait. Eventually that right will be gone. You will stand or be persecuted.

blackangold 09-03-2020 04:19 PM

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The only thing we can all count on... it'll all be over in November.

Regardless of who wins, democrats don't care about the black community unless it's a election year. There needs to be change, the black community needs to stop voting for the same party that kept them down for generations.

End systemic racism = end the democratic party

AsylumGuido 09-03-2020 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 895437)
Morally racism is wrong. Legally it's a personal freedom. I just don't get the point of attacking personal freedoms.

Attacking people who own guns for example and then trying to pass law after law to restrict them as much as possible to the point they can no longer own them until the freedom is now a crime...meh.

What is next for the endzone message. End Guns Now. Think it can't happen. Of course it can. Eventually all freedoms will be gone. Think you have a right to not stand for the flag. Just wait. Eventually that right will be gone. You will stand or be persecuted.

Perhaps because it is morally wrong. Unless it involves an act that qualifies as a hate crime a person does have the right to be racist. But that does not mean that society cannot do what ever they can legally to convince that person that it is morally wrong, including putting a simple message in a football end zone.

I just cannot understand how anyone other than someone that relishes racism would have an issue with that simple message.

Beastmode 09-03-2020 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 895439)
Perhaps because it is morally wrong. Unless it involves an act that qualifies as a hate crime a person does have the right to be racist. But that does not mean that society cannot do what ever they can legally to convince that person that it is morally wrong, including putting a simple message in a football end zone.

I just cannot understand how anyone other than someone that relishes racism would have an issue with that simple message.


I can't understand why people with the "morale" high ground would go out of their way to hate people who hate other people. It's ridiculous if you truly think about it. Maybe try ignoring them if they aren't hurting anyone and legally punish them if they do. It was actually working a lot better than what is going on now. Just gave them recruiting power. Good job.

AsylumGuido 09-03-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 895443)
I can't understand why people with the "morale" high ground would go out of their way to hate people who hate other people. It's ridiculous if you truly think about it. Maybe try ignoring them if they aren't hurting anyone and legally punish them if they do. It was actually working a lot better than what is going on now. Just gave them recruiting power. Good job.

Okay. I get you. Racism doesn't hurt anyone. Hating other people doesn't hurt anyone. Leave them be and not try to change that culture. Gotcha! It is okay to hate someone for their racial makeup as long as you keep it legal. Got it!

:rolleyes:

frydaddy 09-03-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 895443)
I can't understand why people with the "morale" high ground would go out of their way to hate people who hate other people. It's ridiculous if you truly think about it. Maybe try ignoring them if they aren't hurting anyone and legally punish them if they do. It was actually working a lot better than what is going on now. Just gave them recruiting power. Good job.

Bingo. We teach our kids to ignore bullies, because it robs them of the attention they so desperately crave, which takes their power. Tiny pockets of racism still exist in this country, no denying that. But they've been largely ignored and their numbers shrinking with every passing generation. But the democrats and their puppets in the mainstream media can't have that, because they need black people to feel less than so that they can continue to exploit them for political gain. So they've started a borderline race war and ignited a lot of ill will from both sides toward the other. Racism has a stronger pulse today than it has in the last 50 years, all because of the attention that democrats and MSM have brought to it. I agree with the sentiment of the message, but not the method. I can't believe that anyone in their right mind feels like any good has come out of the riots or the protests or the ads or the movies or TV shows trying to force this whole "woke" narrative. Things are clearly worse now than even just a few months ago. How is more of the same going to produce a different result? We all know that quote about the definition of insanity, and that's exactly what this is.

I'll say it again, if you really want to end racism then we need to remove as many democrats from power as possible. Vote republican, vote independent, vote libertarian, just not democrat. No party is perfect.. Imostly vote republican, but I have a lot of problems with the party as it is today.. but the democrats are the closest thing to nazis since nazis were a thing.

Beastmode 09-03-2020 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 895448)
Okay. I get you. Racism doesn't hurt anyone. Hating other people doesn't hurt anyone. Leave them be and not try to change that culture. Gotcha! It is okay to hate someone for their racial makeup as long as you keep it legal. Got it!

:rolleyes:


It will change itself. When I was in Afghanistan we didn't go in there with signs "Eradicate The Taliban". What we did do is arrest them and kill them when they started acts of terrorism. We also installed water wells in their towns so no more walking 2 miles for water and built roads to the wells. Once the wells were working the attacks declined to next to nothing.

If we made signs it would infuriate them. They would increase attacks and increase recruiting. Can't fight hate with hate. All this is doing is making it worse. Worse than ever if it keeps up.

AsylumGuido 09-03-2020 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 895451)
Bingo. We teach our kids to ignore bullies, because it robs them of the attention they so desperately crave, which takes their power. Tiny pockets of racism still exist in this country, no denying that. But they've been largely ignored and their numbers shrinking with every passing generation. But the democrats and their puppets in the mainstream media can't have that, because they need black people to feel less than so that they can continue to exploit them for political gain. So they've started a borderline race war and ignited a lot of ill will from both sides toward the other. Racism has a stronger pulse today than it has in the last 50 years, all because of the attention that democrats and MSM have brought to it. I agree with the sentiment of the message, but not the method. I can't believe that anyone in their right mind feels like any good has come out of the riots or the protests or the ads or the movies or TV shows trying to force this whole "woke" narrative. Things are clearly worse now than even just a few months ago. How is more of the same going to produce a different result? We all know that quote about the definition of insanity, and that's exactly what this is.

I'll say it again, if you really want to end racism then we need to remove as many democrats from power as possible. Vote republican, vote independent, vote libertarian, just not democrat. No party is perfect.. Imostly vote republican, but I have a lot of problems with the party as it is today.. but the democrats are the closest thing to nazis since nazis were a thing.

Exhibit #1

Beastmode 09-03-2020 07:42 PM

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Not protesting. Blocking roads, being belligerent. Endangering lives of others. Thanks NFL for throwing nitro on an ember and causing change for the worst.

https://www.wric.com/news/local-news...-at-city-jail/

AsylumGuido 09-03-2020 07:46 PM

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Not protesting. Blocking roads, being belligerent. Endangering lives of others. Thanks NFL for throwing nitro on an ember and causing change for the worst.

https://www.wric.com/news/local-news...-at-city-jail/

And that has what to do with adding "End Racism" into the end zone?

Okay.

:rolleyes:

spkb25 09-03-2020 07:48 PM

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Well i think thats wonderful. Maybe next year can be end world hunger. Follow that with knockout cancer, who im kidding, we all know breast cancer is the only kind of cancer the NFL cares about. Finally peace in the middle east.

Maybe at some point they'll get around to discussing child kidnapping, raping, murdering, and sex trafficking. But let's virtue signal first.

AsylumGuido 09-03-2020 07:51 PM

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Well i think thats wonderful. Maybe next year can be end world hunger. Follow that with knockout cancer, who im kidding, we all know breast cancer is the only kind of cancer the NFL cares about. Finally peace in the middle east.

Maybe at some point they'll get around to discussing child kidnapping, raping, murdering, and sex trafficking. But let's virtue signal first.

Yup. Here you are again. Can't end your addiction with the NFL, huh?

spkb25 09-03-2020 10:03 PM

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Yup. Here you are again. Can't end your addiction with the NFL, huh?

My obsession may be politics, football used to be my escape.

jeanpierre 09-03-2020 10:21 PM

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Sorry, AG, can't help myself, God Bless your blinded fandom, but reading your posts here my thoughts turn to humour, and my generation had some of the best ever...

https://media.giphy.com/media/XEo7YJHUeplXa/giphy.gif

WillMacKenzie 09-04-2020 05:55 AM

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I tried watching some US Open tennis but had to turn it off because ESPN is just...insufferable

Trap people in their house with a virus and then bombard them with propaganda. Perfect. What’s next, mandatory lobotomy? Re-education camps? Are Laffy Taffy jokes going to turn into social messages, so that you can’t even eat a piece of candy in peace??

vpheughan 09-04-2020 06:18 AM

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Will work as well as "Just say No" ended the illegal drug trade! Unfortunately all the out of work suppliers and dealers became Racists!

iceshack149 09-04-2020 11:26 AM

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I tried watching some US Open tennis but had to turn it off because ESPN is just...insufferable

Trap people in their house with a virus and then bombard them with propaganda. Perfect. What’s next, mandatory lobotomy? Re-education camps? Are Laffy Taffy jokes going to turn into social messages, so that you can’t even eat a piece of candy in peace??

In 2010 I moved back to my hometown of Fairbanks after living in a northern village for almost a decade. I was so excited to find out that Fairbanks finally got a sports station on the radio. Now I could listen to sports all the time!

Now, ten years later I hardly ever listen to ESPN radio.
Yesterday all the local stations were on commercial break so I checked out ESPN. Ten seconds in and both hosts were vomitting out virtue signaling garbage so I promptly turned to a station and listened to their advertisements. I now prefer advertisements to ESPN radio.

I'd rather hear "in these trying times" over and over to talking heads telling me how evil I am for the color of my skin.

saintsfan1976 09-04-2020 02:08 PM

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I think the slogan is a great idea. Just remember this - it’ll be on BOTH sides of the field.

SmashMouth 09-05-2020 03:39 AM

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Rugby Saint II 09-05-2020 12:32 PM

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No doubt we'll hear quite bit of that in week one, but before long the entertainment will take over.

So, I will DVR that game and fast forward through the political issues. If it continues then I'll have a problem. If I want opinions then I'll tune in to the national media on a news station. If I want sports I'll tune into a sports program where I want to hear the announcers talk sports and that's it.

Flipx99 09-07-2020 09:18 PM

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Okay. I get you. Racism doesn't hurt anyone. Hating other people doesn't hurt anyone. Leave them be and not try to change that culture. Gotcha! It is okay to hate someone for their racial makeup as long as you keep it legal. Got it!

:rolleyes:

At this moment, the message is at the very least the rough equivalent of supporting BLM.

Supporting BLM is not going to end racism, it will only make things worse.

It's a horrific, racist and violent movement.

Just look at what BLM has accomplished since Memorial Day.

BLM doesn't care about black lives except to the extent they need martyrs to continue destroying Western Civilization.

pinch 09-08-2020 09:57 AM

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At this moment, the message is at the very least the rough equivalent of supporting BLM.

Supporting BLM is not going to end racism, it will only make things worse.

It's a horrific, racist and violent movement.

Just look at what BLM has accomplished since Memorial Day.

BLM doesn't care about black lives except to the extent they need martyrs to continue destroying Western Civilization.

It's not "roughly equivalent", they're letting players promote BLM with helmet stickers. Goodell came out explicitly and says the league supports BLM.

Just don't go the games and don't watch. Money is the only language they understand. Hit them in the pocketbooks (like the league threatened to do in the NBA) and they'll change the tune.

Otherwise, they're going to be emboldened and continue to promote this violent and Marxist organization. Don't give money to an organization that is just going to accuse you of being racist. Take a stand.

AsylumGuido 09-08-2020 10:25 AM

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Just two more days until NFL football! Can't wait!

Who Dat!!

:bng:

iceshack149 09-08-2020 03:29 PM

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Just two more days until NFL football! Can't wait!

Who Dat!!

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Lord_Saint83 09-08-2020 03:53 PM

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Just two more days until NFL football! Can't wait!

Who Dat!!

:bng:

Me either AG. I’ve learned over the years on this earth, to tune out sh*t I don’t agree with from either side. Life’s too short and I love football too much to let anyone piss on my parade.

AsylumGuido 09-08-2020 03:55 PM

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Actually all is well. The rest of the world doesn't care about the tiny minority that claim they are not going to watch the NFL. Good riddance.

:party:

:bng:

AsylumGuido 09-08-2020 03:57 PM

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Me either AG. I’ve learned over the years on this earth, to tune out sh*t I don’t agree with from either side. Life’s too short and I love football too much to let anyone piss on my parade.

Exactly! And that's how the vast majority of football fans feel.

Beastmode 09-08-2020 05:01 PM

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Exactly! And that's how the vast majority of football fans feel.


How much will ratings drop. Can you ask the vast majority and inform us all. I don't know anyone who is watching but this is a small sample, maybe 25 people. I do know Fantasy is down 25-30% in participation from reports. Assuming it will be close to that number but slightly higher since more conservatives watch NFL rather than NBA.


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