NFL.com | Drew Brees: 'I'm on borrowed time' as Saints enter Super Bowl or bust season

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2020, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

I agree and I’ll go even further with Payton. The years when Drew was in his prime it was pissed away by bad defenses, bad signings, and bad drafting all of which Payton has control of. Loomis is just the bean counter. Thank god for Ireland helping quell Sean with the *****y drafting or we’d really be up sh*t creek. Now I’m not giving Drew a pass but it’s at least 75% Sean’s fault.

See the above reply. Who do you want to do better. Who else has ever even made us relevant? We are spoiled. We could be Detroit if you want? Or the Chargers?

As I said ... the grass is always greener ....

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2020, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Payton has been getting outcoached in the playoffs since 2010.

The team doesnt have the ability to make that crucial stop or crucial conversion, we always leave the game open for the other team to make the plays, and they always do.

Which is a shame because during the regular season we often look unstoppable at times, then regardless of if we are at home or not, the team looks scared and intimidated in the playoffs. Especially the offense, they just let the opposing defense dictate the game, until late in the 4th quarter where they give us a glimmer of hope and then fall short.

And the same question to you. Who is better right now for the Saints? What do you want instead? Who would you have rather had over the past decade?
Give the answer.

Waiting. I have asked this exact question dozens of times on this forum and have never got a real answer.

dizzle88 · 09-10-2020, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And the same question to you. Who is better right now for the Saints? What do you want instead? Who would you have rather had over the past decade?
Give the answer.

Waiting. I have asked this exact question dozens of times on this forum and have never got a real answer.

No need to wait, here's my answer. Getting a different coach wouldn't help, Payton just needs to do better.

Flipx99 · 09-10-2020, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

I already know how you look

Lol, what an odd thing to say.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-10-2020, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

No need to wait, here's my answer. Getting a different coach wouldn't help, Payton just needs to do better.

Right, it seems like he’s lost the edge. Like it worked in 09 it’ll work now

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2020, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

No need to wait, here's my answer. Getting a different coach wouldn't help, Payton just needs to do better.

But how to do better? He's human. He has done the best job of any coach in Saints history to make us relevant. Give him credit for that. But, how much is truly on him. There are a dozen other coaches, 53 players, all those officials, and the damned shape of the ball that come into play.

What is it exactly he needs to do better? I have to give it to you, diz. You are the first one out of the many others that has even attempted to answer that question.

Much respect!

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2020, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

Right, it seems like he’s lost the edge. Like it worked in 09 it’ll work now

Works good enough to win more games than anyone else over the past three years. Is that losing the edge?

gosaints1 · 09-10-2020, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

No need to wait, here's my answer. Getting a different coach wouldn't help, Payton just needs to do better.

Agreed, my comments aren’t meant to intimate that Payton isn’t a valuable HC, or that he needs to be cut loose. it’s merely to point out our playoff record, outside of the 2009 SB year isn’t indicative of anything special. For MANY reasons.

I’m not of the mindset that “feel better cuz you could be 3-13” is a legitimate excuse for going 13-3 and losing in the wildcard round.

But..., to each their own.

gosaints1 · 09-10-2020, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Works good enough to win more games than anyone else over the past three years. Is that losing the edge?

Sure, while compiling a 2-3 playoff record. Which, imho, is the only record that matters.

AsylumGuido · 09-10-2020, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Agreed, my comments aren’t meant to intimate that Payton isn’t a valuable HC, or that he needs to be cut loose. it’s merely to point out our playoff record, outside of the 2009 SB year isn’t indicative of anything special. For MANY reasons.

I’m not of the mindset that “feel better cuz you could be 3-13” is a legitimate excuse for going 13-3 and losing in the wildcard round.

But..., to each their own.

Could that excuse be because of a bad bounce, or a bad call, or a bad play? Yup. That his fault?

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: NFL.com \| Drew Brees: 'I'm on borrowed time' as Saints enter Super Bowl or bust season Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 I agree and I’ll go even further with Payton. The years when Drew was in his prime it was pissed away by bad defenses, bad signings, and bad drafting all of which Payton has control of. Loomis is just the bean counter. Thank god for Ireland helping quell Sean with the ****y drafting or we’d really be up sht creek. Now I’m not giving Drew a pass but it’s at least 75% Sean’s fault. See the above reply. Who do you want to do better. Who else has ever even made us relevant? We are spoiled. We could be Detroit if you want? Or the Chargers? As I said ... the grass is always greener ....

09-10-2020, 07:05 PM	#32
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: NFL.com \| Drew Brees: 'I'm on borrowed time' as Saints enter Super Bowl or bust season Originally Posted by dizzle88 Payton has been getting outcoached in the playoffs since 2010. The team doesnt have the ability to make that crucial stop or crucial conversion, we always leave the game open for the other team to make the plays, and they always do. Which is a shame because during the regular season we often look unstoppable at times, then regardless of if we are at home or not, the team looks scared and intimidated in the playoffs. Especially the offense, they just let the opposing defense dictate the game, until late in the 4th quarter where they give us a glimmer of hope and then fall short. And the same question to you. Who is better right now for the Saints? What do you want instead? Who would you have rather had over the past decade? Give the answer. Waiting. I have asked this exact question dozens of times on this forum and have never got a real answer.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: NFL.com \| Drew Brees: 'I'm on borrowed time' as Saints enter Super Bowl or bust season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And the same question to you. Who is better right now for the Saints? What do you want instead? Who would you have rather had over the past decade? Give the answer. Waiting. I have asked this exact question dozens of times on this forum and have never got a real answer. No need to wait, here's my answer. Getting a different coach wouldn't help, Payton just needs to do better. AsylumGuido, gosaints1 and Lord_Saint83 like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: NFL.com \| Drew Brees: 'I'm on borrowed time' as Saints enter Super Bowl or bust season Originally Posted by dizzle88 No need to wait, here's my answer. Getting a different coach wouldn't help, Payton just needs to do better. But how to do better? He's human. He has done the best job of any coach in Saints history to make us relevant. Give him credit for that. But, how much is truly on him. There are a dozen other coaches, 53 players, all those officials, and the damned shape of the ball that come into play. What is it exactly he needs to do better? I have to give it to you, diz. You are the first one out of the many others that has even attempted to answer that question. Much respect! dizzle88 likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: NFL.com \| Drew Brees: 'I'm on borrowed time' as Saints enter Super Bowl or bust season Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 Right, it seems like he’s lost the edge. Like it worked in 09 it’ll work now Works good enough to win more games than anyone else over the past three years. Is that losing the edge?

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: NFL.com \| Drew Brees: 'I'm on borrowed time' as Saints enter Super Bowl or bust season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Works good enough to win more games than anyone else over the past three years. Is that losing the edge? Sure, while compiling a 2-3 playoff record. Which, imho, is the only record that matters.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: NFL.com \| Drew Brees: 'I'm on borrowed time' as Saints enter Super Bowl or bust season Originally Posted by gosaints1 Agreed, my comments aren’t meant to intimate that Payton isn’t a valuable HC, or that he needs to be cut loose. it’s merely to point out our playoff record, outside of the 2009 SB year isn’t indicative of anything special. For MANY reasons. I’m not of the mindset that “feel better cuz you could be 3-13” is a legitimate excuse for going 13-3 and losing in the wildcard round. But..., to each their own. Could that excuse be because of a bad bounce, or a bad call, or a bad play? Yup. That his fault?