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iceshack149 09-11-2020 07:42 PM

Is this Brees' Last Year at QB?
 
Simple question before the Saints season begins. Is this Drew's last year?

Yes or no?

I say yes. No matter what happens I think he calls it quits at the end of this season.

rezburna 09-12-2020 07:16 AM

Re: Is this Brees' Last Year at QB?
 
Yes. I believe Winston was brought in to supplant Brees next year.

Lord_Saint83 09-12-2020 08:21 AM

Re: Is this Brees' Last Year at QB?
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 896118)
Yes. I believe Winston was brought in to supplant Brees next year.

I believe so too, Rez. If Winston gets his head and ass wired together we’ll be in great shape next year

WW_Who_Dat 09-12-2020 10:08 AM

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I’m one of the no votes but it would not surprise me if is does retire at the end of this season.

Never was a Winston fan but by all accounts in the media he has been a hard working with a positive attitude and well liked by he’s teammates.

Young with tons of arm strength and athletic ability I certainly feel as though he has an advantage Over Taysom with his 4 years experience reading NFL defenses.

But can he improve his Game Managment skills to go along with his arm strength. If that happens he brings the whole field into play on any and every snap.

If Drew does retire it will be a very interesting Offseason and Training camp to follow. May the best QB win.

Rugby Saint II 09-12-2020 12:15 PM

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Not as long as Brady is playing....

WW_Who_Dat 09-12-2020 01:01 PM

Re: Is this Brees' Last Year at QB?
 
Ruby that’s why I voted “NO”, but Brady is much more likely to retire first. Brees wants all the records so if Brady goes on so does Brees if healthy and well.

If a team can pressure Brady up the middle and take away the short outside pass routes Brady will go down often because he is just not that mobile compared to Brees. If our defensive backfield can give our Defensive Line an additional .5 seconds rush time this year ... watch out.

No matter how good a shape a 43 year old body Is in it will breakdown if he Is getting hit any frequency. It’s a young mans game and Brady and Brees are true outliers to the position.

iceshack149 09-12-2020 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 896153)
Not as long as Brady is playing....

That's certainly a factor. Drew is on top of so many records that Brady might need two seasons to catch up. Brady probably won't hit 4,000 yards this season but I wouldn't be shocked if he did with so many large players catching the ball.

That said, I think he's ready to get in the booth and make money that doesn't require terrific athletes from damaging his body. Also, I think he wants to get as far away from the attacks he's suffered because he is in a position that he can't say or do the right thing regardless of his audience.

WillSaints81 09-13-2020 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 896184)
That's certainly a factor. Drew is on top of so many records that Brady might need two seasons to catch up. Brady probably won't hit 4,000 yards this season but I wouldn't be shocked if he did with so many large players catching the ball.

That said, I think he's ready to get in the booth and make money that doesn't require terrific athletes from damaging his body. Also, I think he wants to get as far away from the attacks he's suffered because he is in a position that he can't say or do the right thing regardless of his audience.

Brady is within reach of the touchdown record, and he could pass Brees tomorrow.

WillSaints81 09-13-2020 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 896159)
Ruby that’s why I voted “NO”, but Brady is much more likely to retire first. Brees wants all the records so if Brady goes on so does Brees if healthy and well.

If a team can pressure Brady up the middle and take away the short outside pass routes Brady will go down often because he is just not that mobile compared to Brees. If our defensive backfield can give our Defensive Line an additional .5 seconds rush time this year ... watch out.

No matter how good a shape a 43 year old body Is in it will breakdown if he Is getting hit any frequency. It’s a young mans game and Brady and Brees are true outliers to the position.

Who says Brees wants all the records?

WillSaints81 09-13-2020 12:38 AM

Re: Is this Brees' Last Year at QB?
 
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 896159)
Ruby that’s why I voted “NO”, but Brady is much more likely to retire first. Brees wants all the records so if Brady goes on so does Brees if healthy and well.

If a team can pressure Brady up the middle and take away the short outside pass routes Brady will go down often because he is just not that mobile compared to Brees. If our defensive backfield can give our Defensive Line an additional .5 seconds rush time this year ... watch out.

No matter how good a shape a 43 year old body Is in it will breakdown if he Is getting hit any frequency. It’s a young mans game and Brady and Brees are true outliers to the position.

That body has to break down first. If the Bucs are successful, he won't retire.

ChrisXVI 09-13-2020 08:32 AM

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He told guys at the Pro Bowl that he was retiring. Then, he makes a whole Instagram post about how he would be back this year... leading me to think he felt the need to make an announcement. Just enjoy the game today because I think it’s our last season opener with Brees.

dizzle88 09-13-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 896192)
He told guys at the Pro Bowl that he was retiring. Then, he makes a whole Instagram post about how he would be back this year... leading me to think he felt the need to make an announcement. Just enjoy the game today because I think it’s our last season opener with Brees.

I think so too, it would be absolutely criminal for Brees to retire only having 1 super bowl ring.

K Major 09-13-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 896194)
I think so too, it would be absolutely criminal for Brees to retire only having 1 super bowl ring.

Brace yourself.

AsylumGuido 09-13-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 896195)
Brace yourself.

That's right! He'll retire with more than two!

Halo 09-13-2020 10:38 AM

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I hope he retires because I'm tired of crybaby fans complaining about him. Some have claimed he had a weak "noodle arm" since around 2012. Just get tired of hearing it.

Brace yourselves for when a Pro Bowl, multiple record holding QB retires. 9 in 10 teams bounce for years from QB to QB trying to replace a cement talent at QB like Brees.

SmashMouth 09-13-2020 10:55 AM

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Brees will play until Jeaux Burreraux signs his second contract to come to New Orleans.

iceshack149 09-13-2020 11:04 AM

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Brees will play until Jeaux Burreraux signs his second contract to come to New Orleans.


AsylumGuido 09-13-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 896199)
I hope he retires because I'm tired of crybaby fans complaining about him. Some have claimed he had a weak "noodle arm" since around 2012. Just get tired of hearing it.

Brace yourselves for when a Pro Bowl, multiple record holding QB retires. 9 in 10 teams bounce for years from QB to QB trying to replace a cement talent at QB like Brees.

I hope he doesn't retire for the same reasons. I foresee a return to the pre-2006 years of Saints football for years to come. Remember when making it to a Super Bowl was not a realistic goal every year?

gulfgambler 09-13-2020 12:32 PM

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Yes it is. He delayed his decision until after super bowl. He's a very
dedicated man and is as focused on decisions as he is under center.

Had covid and racial unrest been prevalent earlier, I think he would
have opted to call it a career. IMO

ChrisXVI 09-13-2020 01:41 PM

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Local reporter Luke Johnson had a story earlier about how after the 2016 season Brees told Luke McCown that 2017 would be his last season but he ended up changing his mind because we started winning again and football became fun again.

Since then, we’ve had three seasons end in massive choke jobs in the playoffs. Brees has to be tired of it.

AsylumGuido 09-13-2020 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 896232)
Local reporter Luke Johnson had a story earlier about how after the 2016 season Brees told Luke McCown that 2017 would be his last season but he ended up changing his mind because we started winning again and football became fun again.

Since then, we’ve had three seasons end in massive choke jobs in the playoffs. Brees has to be tired of it.

Or he has to be motivated by it. Have you read his book? I seriously doubt he thinks they choked.

The Dude 09-13-2020 11:27 PM

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Brees was off today. Hope it’s just rust. He’s surrounded by enough talent for us to win even if he’s just average.

iceshack149 09-14-2020 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 896475)
Brees was off today. Hope it’s just rust. He’s surrounded by enough talent for us to win even if he’s just average.

In my opinion, Brees did enough to be a game manager today but I'm fairly certain that he'll get better as the season progresses. This week was every team's first crack at live action and Brees did throw some nice passes today.

No need to use up the arm this early in the season especially when the Saints were eating up clock in the second half.

TheOak 09-14-2020 05:03 AM

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I wouldn't put too much faith into what any player says at the end of a season; by the Pro Bowl they are physically banged up by the game, mentally beat up by the fans, and just tired.

There is absolutely nothing about Drew's personality that says "I know when to stop"....:bng:

rezburna 09-14-2020 07:19 AM

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Yesterday was every indication that it needs to be his last year.

iceshack149 09-14-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 896489)
Yesterday was every indication that it needs to be his last year.

We'll see. I think that he'll be fine as the season progresses. Players, coaches, and media bros all said that the atmosphere at the games was like a scrimmage so when Brees gets used to the empty stadiums I'm guessing he'll be calibrated to excellence again.

The Dude 09-14-2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 896489)
Yesterday was every indication that it needs to be his last year.

I agree. People say it’s because of a light camp and no preseason but Farve didn’t participate in camp or preseason for the last 5 years of his career and did just fine. A pro like Brees doesn’t need it so I doubt you would have seen a whole lot of difference if they did have a normal preseason.

WhoDat!656 09-14-2020 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 896207)
I hope he doesn't retire for the same reasons. I foresee a return to the pre-2006 years of Saints football for years to come. Remember when making it to a Super Bowl was not a realistic goal every year?

Hell I remember when an 8-8 season wasn't a realistic goal!

rezburna 09-14-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 896533)
I agree. People say it’s because of a light camp and no preseason but Farve didn’t participate in camp or preseason for the last 5 years of his career and did just fine. A pro like Brees doesn’t need it so I doubt you would have seen a whole lot of difference if they did have a normal preseason.

He used to only have those kind of games on the road once or twice a year. Then it started happening at pretty much every road game. Then he started having those game at home in the dome. Now he’s hit or miss. People are truly speaking from an emotional place. Skills diminish with age, and that’s okay. His run is at its end.

Budsdrinker 09-15-2020 07:46 AM

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Even if Brees' skills are diminishing, they are still better than Winston's.
Just because you can throw a football 60 yards doesn't mean you're better.
See Jamarcus Russel as the perfect example. 30 and 30 are good stats if you're a baseball player, not a starting QB.
Winston is here because he was cheap and has starter experience in case the worse happens again. He isn't the future.

Beastmode 09-15-2020 08:00 AM

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How many ride until the wheels fall off. That would be 90%. Going off that he won't.

gosaints1 09-15-2020 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 896548)
Even if Brees' skills are diminishing, they are still better than Winston's.
Just because you can throw a football 60 yards doesn't mean you're better.
See Jamarcus Russel as the perfect example. 30 and 30 are good stats if you're a baseball player, not a starting QB.
Winston is here because he was cheap and has starter experience in case the worse happens again. He isn't the future.

Agreed, But personally, I’m comparing this DB#9 to ten years ago DB#9. And the debate doesn’t seem to be whether this DB#9 is better than Russell, or anybody else..., it’s very simply if this DB#9 has enough left in the tank to run an extremely potent and high powered offense. If the answer is that he can’t, to a championship level, then it may very well be time to discuss life without the quadragenarian.

rezburna 09-15-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 896548)
Even if Brees' skills are diminishing, they are still better than Winston's.
Just because you can throw a football 60 yards doesn't mean you're better.
See Jamarcus Russel as the perfect example. 30 and 30 are good stats if you're a baseball player, not a starting QB.
Winston is here because he was cheap and has starter experience in case the worse happens again. He isn't the future.

Jameis Winston is a far better QB than you’re giving him credit for.

gosaints1 09-15-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 896558)
Jameis Winston is a far better QB than you’re giving him credit for.

He definitely has the talent to be a very successful NFL QB. I would like to see him get some time to prove it, on the field, in this system with our players. Entire series’s, not QB by committee and not “gadgety” plays.

Good As Gold 09-15-2020 11:56 AM

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I don't think he will retire yet. Look at Tom Brady, he is still going at 43 yrs. Now the question is, will this be TB last year?

saintsfan1976 09-15-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 896558)
Jameis Winston is a far better QB than you’re giving him credit for.

He's even more talented than most all of critics give him credit for. The issue ins't talent - it's consistency.

rezburna 09-15-2020 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 896572)
He's even more talented than most all of critics give him credit for. The issue ins't talent - it's consistency.

He came from an organization that lacked consistency in the front office. I think you’ll see a better product now that he’s with an organization that has direction and continuity.

AsylumGuido 09-15-2020 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 896579)
He came from an organization that lacked consistency in the front office. I think you’ll see a better product now that he’s with an organization that has direction and continuity.

IF he ever gets the opportunity to get on the field. As long as he remains third on the depth chart he won't get any playing time. It would take an injury for that to occur and I doubt think any of us want to see that.

iceshack149 09-15-2020 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 896572)
He's even more talented than most all of critics give him credit for. The issue ins't talent - it's consistency.

I think a bigger factor is maturity. And I get it. He was BMOC everywhere he went from high school through Tampa Bay so he could get away with behaving like a child. I have seen some indicators that would suggest that he's maturing. Making $1 million as a back up QB convinced me that he knew that the Saints were a solid organization and learning from one of the best QB's to ever play the game would only strengthen his chances to make another huge payday in the near future as a starter for an NFL team.

I'm fairly certain that he would start over Hill if he comes back next year and Brees retires.

gosaints1 09-15-2020 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 896590)
IF he ever gets the opportunity to get on the field. As long as he remains third on the depth chart he won't get any playing time. It would take an injury for that to occur and I doubt think any of us want to see that.

If/When the game is 31-3, going in to the 4th quarter, or anytime Coach feels the game is solidly in hand, then pull DB#9, let the guy who actually needs the snaps run a full quarter, two or three series in a row.


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