Saints at Raiders Wednesday Injury Report

K Major · 09-18-2020, 10:41 AM

Don't rush Mike Thomas back. Football is a marathon and a grind for months, not a sprint.

This is a high ankle sprain injury we're talking about. If Sunday was the NFC title game, sure suit him up and lets go but we're not. Lots of football left to be played.

Other guys will need to STEP UP at the WR spot.

AsylumGuido · 09-18-2020, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Don't rush Mike Thomas back. Football is a marathon and a grind for months, not a sprint.

This is a high ankle sprain injury we're talking about. If Sunday was the NFC title game, sure suit him up and lets go but we're not. Lots of football left to be played.

Other guys will need to STEP UP at the WR spot.

It sounds like it is Thomas that wants to press through. I read earlier that they were considering the IR, but he basically talked them out of it. I can't find the story now. It on my facebook feed.

AsylumGuido · 09-18-2020, 03:07 PM

AsylumGuido · 09-18-2020, 03:19 PM

AsylumGuido · 09-18-2020, 03:47 PM

Dr. David Chao also appeared on NFL Radio today addressing the Thomas injury. He said people need to understand there are differing degrees of high ankle injuries. He said it may just come down to a matter of pain tolerance. He also said the player, the team, and the medical staff all need to okay a decision to play. Any one of the three have an absolute veto power. He said the medical staff includes the trainers, as well as the physician. In other words, if he does play then all parties decided with all the information at hand that he was ready.

He also brought up the point of the 3 week IR and the fact that since the Saints have not place him on that list the injury must not be very serious.

AsylumGuido · 09-18-2020, 03:51 PM

Looks like the offensive line is back at full practice.

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jeanpierre · 09-18-2020, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Don't rush Mike Thomas back. Football is a marathon and a grind for months, not a sprint.

This is a high ankle sprain injury we're talking about. If Sunday was the NFC title game, sure suit him up and lets go but we're not. Lots of football left to be played.

Other guys will need to STEP UP at the WR spot.

Second, but I can tell you from experience, no not NFL experience, but he should continue to play with a hard limited snap count...

Had one of those in college and rest, rest, rest cost me my maximized athleticism and I was never the same...

They should keep him moving, but limited...

K Major · 09-18-2020, 08:14 PM

The best ability is availability.

MD is in a make or break year. If he can't get his health and availability in check, things could spiral out of control after year #3 and his name will be in the pantheon of top 5 Saints disappointments.

The front office certainly didn't spend a 1st & trade next year's 1 to draft out of luxury. They want results.

We could definitely use some help at the DE spot..... Davenport has been dealing with that elbow for a while now & sounds like it going to be a problem for him. After last season, I thought he would turn a corner but he simply can't stay healthy.

jeanpierre · 09-18-2020, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The best ability is availability.

MD is in a make or break year. If he can't get his health and availability in check, things could spiral out of control after year #3 and his name will be in the pantheon of top 5 Saints disappointments.

The front office certainly didn't spend a 1st & trade next year's 1 to draft out of luxury. They want results.

We could definitely use some help at the DE spot..... Davenport has been dealing with that elbow for a while now & sounds like it going to be a problem for him. After last season, I thought he would turn a corner but he simply can't stay healthy.

This is a NFL Combine SPARQ Graphy...

You know what's not here that should be? Availability, Durability...

TheOak · 09-21-2020, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

This is a NFL Combine SPARQ Graphy...

You know what's not here that should be? Availability, Durability...

They are not there because they aren't measurable. You might be able to rate or grade but not measure, they aren't tangible. Nothing in that is subjective, it is raw data to draw a subjective conclusion from.

09-18-2020, 10:41 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints at Raiders Wednesday Injury Report Don't rush Mike Thomas back. Football is a marathon and a grind for months, not a sprint. This is a high ankle sprain injury we're talking about. If Sunday was the NFC title game, sure suit him up and lets go but we're not. Lots of football left to be played. Other guys will need to STEP UP at the WR spot. leilung, jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

09-18-2020, 11:01 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Saints at Raiders Wednesday Injury Report Originally Posted by K Major Don't rush Mike Thomas back. Football is a marathon and a grind for months, not a sprint. This is a high ankle sprain injury we're talking about. If Sunday was the NFC title game, sure suit him up and lets go but we're not. Lots of football left to be played. Other guys will need to STEP UP at the WR spot. It sounds like it is Thomas that wants to press through. I read earlier that they were considering the IR, but he basically talked them out of it. I can't find the story now. It on my facebook feed.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Saints at Raiders Wednesday Injury Report Dr. David Chao also appeared on NFL Radio today addressing the Thomas injury. He said people need to understand there are differing degrees of high ankle injuries. He said it may just come down to a matter of pain tolerance. He also said the player, the team, and the medical staff all need to okay a decision to play. Any one of the three have an absolute veto power. He said the medical staff includes the trainers, as well as the physician. In other words, if he does play then all parties decided with all the information at hand that he was ready. He also brought up the point of the 3 week IR and the fact that since the Saints have not place him on that list the injury must not be very serious. gosaints1 likes this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Saints at Raiders Wednesday Injury Report Looks like the offensive line is back at full practice. Twitter neugey likes this.

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09-18-2020, 06:44 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints at Raiders Wednesday Injury Report Originally Posted by K Major Don't rush Mike Thomas back. Football is a marathon and a grind for months, not a sprint. This is a high ankle sprain injury we're talking about. If Sunday was the NFC title game, sure suit him up and lets go but we're not. Lots of football left to be played. Other guys will need to STEP UP at the WR spot. Second, but I can tell you from experience, no not NFL experience, but he should continue to play with a hard limited snap count... Had one of those in college and rest, rest, rest cost me my maximized athleticism and I was never the same... They should keep him moving, but limited... Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

09-18-2020, 08:14 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints at Raiders Wednesday Injury Report The best ability is availability. MD is in a make or break year. If he can't get his health and availability in check, things could spiral out of control after year #3 and his name will be in the pantheon of top 5 Saints disappointments. The front office certainly didn't spend a 1st & trade next year's 1 to draft out of luxury. They want results. We could definitely use some help at the DE spot..... Davenport has been dealing with that elbow for a while now & sounds like it going to be a problem for him. After last season, I thought he would turn a corner but he simply can't stay healthy. jnormand, jeanpierre, bobdog86 and 1 others like this.

09-18-2020, 09:14 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints at Raiders Wednesday Injury Report Originally Posted by K Major The best ability is availability. MD is in a make or break year. If he can't get his health and availability in check, things could spiral out of control after year #3 and his name will be in the pantheon of top 5 Saints disappointments. The front office certainly didn't spend a 1st & trade next year's 1 to draft out of luxury. They want results. We could definitely use some help at the DE spot..... Davenport has been dealing with that elbow for a while now & sounds like it going to be a problem for him. After last season, I thought he would turn a corner but he simply can't stay healthy. This is a NFL Combine SPARQ Graphy... You know what's not here that should be? Availability, Durability...

09-21-2020, 07:18 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: Saints at Raiders Wednesday Injury Report Originally Posted by jeanpierre This is a NFL Combine SPARQ Graphy... You know what's not here that should be? Availability, Durability... They are not there because they aren't measurable. You might be able to rate or grade but not measure, they aren't tangible. Nothing in that is subjective, it is raw data to draw a subjective conclusion from.