Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew

RailBoss · 09-22-2020, 11:55 AM

I think we still win the South??

Not so sure about that anymore, when the Bucs get in a few more games
they could be the team that we're chasing.

gosaints1 · 09-22-2020, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

I think we still win the South??

Not so sure about that anymore, when the Bucs get in a few more games
they could be the team that we're chasing.

Well, in the head to head, we already won that battle once. I like our team’s matchup against the Bucs..., and I’m not yet sold on the TB/TB combo being the next superpower in the NFC South.

That being said, Carolina is a complete disaster and losing CM for a month or more isn’t going to help them. And Atlanta is just a hot mess, if ABlank were the type of owner to fire coaches inside the season, based on tangible results (aka the record), I would say Quinn will be fired in the next few weeks. But, I just don’t see that happening.

Bottom line, there are concerns, but I’m still buying the Saints win the NFC South kool-aid.

RefsRobbedUs · 09-22-2020, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Does anyone believe that Sean/Brees are simply uncomfortable with allowing guys NOT named AK or Thomas to be more involved on offense? Alvin was our leading receiver last night.

Ty, Sanders, Taysom, Callaway & Cook didn't seem to be a priority in the playbook. Really surprised THill wasn't more involved against a young, inexperienced Raider secondary.

Honest question.

I’m not a big conspiracy guy but Sanders called Drew ignorant over his anthem comments before he even put on a Saints jersey. Drew is barely looking his way on the routes and as a result I saw Sanders half assing routes in the 2nd half.

RailBoss · 09-22-2020, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Well, in the head to head, we already won that battle once. I like our team’s matchup against the Bucs..., and I’m not yet sold on the TB/TB combo being the next superpower in the NFC South.

That being said, Carolina is a complete disaster and losing CM for a month or more isn’t going to help them. And Atlanta is just a hot mess, if ABlank were the type of owner to fire coaches inside the season, based on tangible results (aka the record), I would say Quinn will be fired in the next few weeks. But, I just don’t see that happening.

Bottom line, there are concerns, but I’m still buying the Saints win the NFC South kool-aid.

Kool Aid option you say.. okay Lol..

FinSaint · 09-22-2020, 04:25 PM

It was sad watching Brees play - I'll leave it at that.

WW_Who_Dat · 09-22-2020, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

It was sad watching Brees play - I'll leave it at that.

It was sadder yet watching DAllen’s defense do the same thing over an over again expecting a different result.

Rsanders24 · 09-22-2020, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Honestly, running the ball can’t save you when you can’t stretch the field. If you can’t stretch the field then you can stack the box, send pressure, and sit on the underneath ****. Cover 1 blitzes will be commonplace.

This. When Murray was in the game, the Raiders played a lot of cover 1 with 8 in the box. If Brees can’t make the defense think he can throw the ball down the field outside the numbers it’s not going to be a good year for us on offenses.

Bad game all the way around. Our offense couldn’t stay on the field and out defense couldn’t get off the field. That a loss every time.

FinSaint · 09-22-2020, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

It was sadder yet watching DAllen’s defense do the same thing over an over again expecting a different result.

True, but the difference is that the defense has sucked on many seasons during Brees' tenure while number 9 has been great all through that - it just feels like an end of an era.

I guess it hits home since I'm two weeks older than Drew and I'm starting to feel the years myself.

The dominant emotion I was feeling after the game was sadness, not disappointment, frustration or anger.

ChrisXVI · 09-22-2020, 08:25 PM

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WillSaints81 · 09-22-2020, 09:05 PM

Jenkins....I don't trust the chemistry with him back.

09-22-2020, 11:55 AM	#21
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew I think we still win the South?? Not so sure about that anymore, when the Bucs get in a few more games they could be the team that we're chasing.

09-22-2020, 12:05 PM	#22
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by RailBoss I think we still win the South?? Not so sure about that anymore, when the Bucs get in a few more games they could be the team that we're chasing. Well, in the head to head, we already won that battle once. I like our team’s matchup against the Bucs..., and I’m not yet sold on the TB/TB combo being the next superpower in the NFC South. That being said, Carolina is a complete disaster and losing CM for a month or more isn’t going to help them. And Atlanta is just a hot mess, if ABlank were the type of owner to fire coaches inside the season, based on tangible results (aka the record), I would say Quinn will be fired in the next few weeks. But, I just don’t see that happening. Bottom line, there are concerns, but I’m still buying the Saints win the NFC South kool-aid. RailBoss likes this.
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09-22-2020, 01:18 PM	#23
RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by K Major Does anyone believe that Sean/Brees are simply uncomfortable with allowing guys NOT named AK or Thomas to be more involved on offense? Alvin was our leading receiver last night. Ty, Sanders, Taysom, Callaway & Cook didn't seem to be a priority in the playbook. Really surprised THill wasn't more involved against a young, inexperienced Raider secondary. Honest question. I’m not a big conspiracy guy but Sanders called Drew ignorant over his anthem comments before he even put on a Saints jersey. Drew is barely looking his way on the routes and as a result I saw Sanders half assing routes in the 2nd half.
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09-22-2020, 01:44 PM	#24
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by gosaints1 Well, in the head to head, we already won that battle once. I like our team’s matchup against the Bucs..., and I’m not yet sold on the TB/TB combo being the next superpower in the NFC South. That being said, Carolina is a complete disaster and losing CM for a month or more isn’t going to help them. And Atlanta is just a hot mess, if ABlank were the type of owner to fire coaches inside the season, based on tangible results (aka the record), I would say Quinn will be fired in the next few weeks. But, I just don’t see that happening. Bottom line, there are concerns, but I’m still buying the Saints win the NFC South kool-aid. Kool Aid option you say.. okay Lol.. Attached Thumbnails Rugby Saint II and gosaints1 like this.

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WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by FinSaint It was sad watching Brees play - I'll leave it at that. It was sadder yet watching DAllen’s defense do the same thing over an over again expecting a different result. RailBoss, gosaints1 and K Major like this.

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Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by rezburna Honestly, running the ball can’t save you when you can’t stretch the field. If you can’t stretch the field then you can stack the box, send pressure, and sit on the underneath ****. Cover 1 blitzes will be commonplace. This. When Murray was in the game, the Raiders played a lot of cover 1 with 8 in the box. If Brees can’t make the defense think he can throw the ball down the field outside the numbers it’s not going to be a good year for us on offenses. Bad game all the way around. Our offense couldn’t stay on the field and out defense couldn’t get off the field. That a loss every time.

09-22-2020, 07:34 PM	#28
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat It was sadder yet watching DAllen’s defense do the same thing over an over again expecting a different result. True, but the difference is that the defense has sucked on many seasons during Brees' tenure while number 9 has been great all through that - it just feels like an end of an era. I guess it hits home since I'm two weeks older than Drew and I'm starting to feel the years myself. The dominant emotion I was feeling after the game was sadness, not disappointment, frustration or anger. neugey likes this.

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