Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew

RefsRobbedUs · 09-22-2020, 12:10 AM

Never understood the Jenkins signing outside of being a vocal leader he is past his prime. Waller dominated the whole secondary. No adjustment was made. Why not bracket? Was the focus on Ruggs?

Drew’s arm is toast. That’s evident by the inaccuracy and lack of deep balls. The int was embarrassing. I think we still win the South but major changes have to occur with our quarterback play and secondary if we want to advance in the playoffs. Can’t dink and dunk to a super bowl victory.

Coach loves wasting timeouts on challenges he has no chance of winning. It’s mind boggling every year.

K Major · 09-22-2020, 12:19 AM

Saints have over 200 yards in penalties over the last two weeks.

I know some were ticky tacky however it's still a problem.

RefsRobbedUs · 09-22-2020, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Saints have over 200 yards in penalties over the last two weeks.

I know some were ticky tacky however it's still a problem.

Seems the secondary is good for at least 3 PI’s a game

neugey · 09-22-2020, 12:27 AM

It's embarrassing to basically get beat by a single player in a team sport other than basketball. Waller is quite good, but we didn't need to make him look like the Jerry Rice of tight ends.

K Major · 09-22-2020, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

It's embarrassing to basically get beat by a single player in a team sport other than basketball. Waller is quite good, but we didn't need to make him look like the Jerry Rice of tight ends.

Did you see any adjustments from DENNIS ALLEN second half?

I sure didn't.

RefsRobbedUs · 09-22-2020, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Did you see any adjustments from DENNIS ALLEN second half?

I sure didn't.

That’s the problem. The only adjustment was who would guard him. I saw PJ Jenkins Johnson Demario all in SINGLE coverage against him. Demario did the best due to his strength.

TheOak · 09-22-2020, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Saints have over 200 yards in penalties over the last two weeks.

I know some were ticky tacky however it's still a problem.

I it worse than that. 248 yards of penalties in 2 games and 150 yards of that is 6 Defensive Pass Interference penalties..

This is per game
28.5 yards per game (57 total) - Lattimore (3 penalties in 2 games 2/DPI, 1 UR)
22.5 yards per game - Williams
14.5 yards per game - Jenkins
14 yards per game - Jenkins

Everyone else is in single digits.

We lead the league in giving QBs 1st downs for incomplete passes.

MatthewT · 09-22-2020, 08:50 AM

So far it looks like two of the Saints top free agent signings are complete busts, Jenkins and Sanders. Brees looks like an aging QB looking for that one last moment of glory.

Did anyone notice the great numbers Brees put up, thanks to the Raiders prevent defense and some serious stat boosting during pure garbage time at the end of the game? Can you say Jim Everett impersonation...

K Major · 09-22-2020, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

So far it looks like two of the Saints top free agent signings are complete busts, Jenkins and Sanders. Brees looks like an aging QB looking for that one last moment of glory.

Emmanuel Sanders a bust? This guy is a superior route runner, was the difference in San Fran getting to the bowl but 6 months later NO he has 1 catch and can't get seem to get open against the Raiders SECONDARY?

Naw, not buying that one.

SmashMouth · 09-22-2020, 09:24 AM

Brees had a bad game, like Brady did last game. And MT was awol due to injury. Defense had lapses. Shows how our team failed to adjust... which is coaching related.

News flash... we're not winning every game.

Move on and on to the next game.

09-22-2020, 12:10 AM	#1
RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Never understood the Jenkins signing outside of being a vocal leader he is past his prime. Waller dominated the whole secondary. No adjustment was made. Why not bracket? Was the focus on Ruggs? Drew’s arm is toast. That’s evident by the inaccuracy and lack of deep balls. The int was embarrassing. I think we still win the South but major changes have to occur with our quarterback play and secondary if we want to advance in the playoffs. Can’t dink and dunk to a super bowl victory. Coach loves wasting timeouts on challenges he has no chance of winning. It’s mind boggling every year.
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09-22-2020, 12:19 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Saints have over 200 yards in penalties over the last two weeks. I know some were ticky tacky however it's still a problem. jeanpierre and gosaints1 like this.

09-22-2020, 12:23 AM	#3
RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by K Major Saints have over 200 yards in penalties over the last two weeks. I know some were ticky tacky however it's still a problem. Seems the secondary is good for at least 3 PI’s a game
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09-22-2020, 12:27 AM	#4
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew It's embarrassing to basically get beat by a single player in a team sport other than basketball. Waller is quite good, but we didn't need to make him look like the Jerry Rice of tight ends. RailBoss likes this.

09-22-2020, 12:29 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by neugey It's embarrassing to basically get beat by a single player in a team sport other than basketball. Waller is quite good, but we didn't need to make him look like the Jerry Rice of tight ends. Did you see any adjustments from DENNIS ALLEN second half? I sure didn't. jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and 73Saint like this.

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09-22-2020, 07:26 AM	#6
RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by K Major Did you see any adjustments from DENNIS ALLEN second half? I sure didn't. That’s the problem. The only adjustment was who would guard him. I saw PJ Jenkins Johnson Demario all in SINGLE coverage against him. Demario did the best due to his strength.
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09-22-2020, 07:27 AM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by K Major Saints have over 200 yards in penalties over the last two weeks. I know some were ticky tacky however it's still a problem. I it worse than that. 248 yards of penalties in 2 games and 150 yards of that is 6 Defensive Pass Interference penalties.. This is per game 28.5 yards per game (57 total) - Lattimore (3 penalties in 2 games 2/DPI, 1 UR) 22.5 yards per game - Williams 14.5 yards per game - Jenkins 14 yards per game - Jenkins Everyone else is in single digits. We lead the league in giving QBs 1st downs for incomplete passes. SmashMouth likes this.

09-22-2020, 08:50 AM	#8
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew So far it looks like two of the Saints top free agent signings are complete busts, Jenkins and Sanders. Brees looks like an aging QB looking for that one last moment of glory. Did anyone notice the great numbers Brees put up, thanks to the Raiders prevent defense and some serious stat boosting during pure garbage time at the end of the game? Can you say Jim Everett impersonation...

09-22-2020, 08:56 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by MatthewT So far it looks like two of the Saints top free agent signings are complete busts, Jenkins and Sanders. Brees looks like an aging QB looking for that one last moment of glory. Emmanuel Sanders a bust? This guy is a superior route runner, was the difference in San Fran getting to the bowl but 6 months later NO he has 1 catch and can't get seem to get open against the Raiders SECONDARY? Naw, not buying that one. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

09-22-2020, 09:24 AM	#10
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Brees had a bad game, like Brady did last game. And MT was awol due to injury. Defense had lapses. Shows how our team failed to adjust... which is coaching related. News flash... we're not winning every game. Move on and on to the next game. RailBoss, jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.