Saints vs Packers

Lord_Saint83 · 09-26-2020, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Yup, unfortunately this team is controlled by Paytons ego. If he wants to give up on the run and put the ball in the air, that's what's going to happen. Even if the Raiders couldn't stop the run.

His ego will doom this team this year. Take what the defense gives you. Don’t force stuff just cause you think you won’t be heralded as a offensive genius no more

dizzle88 · 09-26-2020, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

His ego will doom this team this year. Take what the defense gives you. Don’t force stuff just cause you think you won’t be heralded as a offensive genius no more

Precisely, in years past, getting away from the run wasnt ideal but we got by because the offense was so dangerous and could explode for a big play at any time.

That ain't happening anymore unless Taysom comes in.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-26-2020, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Precisely, in years past, getting away from the run wasnt ideal but we got by because the offense was so dangerous and could explode for a big play at any time.

That ain't happening anymore unless Taysom comes in.

I agree, he’s stuck in yesteryear. When we went to a ball control offense it worked really well with Teddy. He needs to do that with Drew. I know it’s not flashy but it works and that’s what matters. Possess the ball for long drives, wear down their defense, while keeping ours fresh. Is a recipe for success.

dizzle88 · 09-26-2020, 04:48 AM

Cover 2 never use to be safe against Drew because he would just attack the seams and dismantle it.

Now however, Cover 2 or Single high is completely fine against Brees because he can't attack teams deep and it means they can committ all this extra defensive help to the primary receiver - Kamara out of the backfield.

Rugby Saint II · 09-26-2020, 12:43 PM

It looks like the Saints bought into their hype. They don't have the advantage because we don't have that killer attitude.

AsylumGuido · 09-26-2020, 01:56 PM

Does anyone here realize that we are only two games into a season with no off-season activities at all and having lost our top offensive weapon for a couple of games and still up one full game in our division?

Then again, I can go back to our post second game threads from the past three years and read the same sort of doom and gloom posts as I see above and by many of the same members.

I said the same thing back then that I'm saying now.

Just relax and wait and see. We'll challenge for the #1 seed after winning our forth straight NFC South title. The defense will gel. The offense will click.

Rugby Saint II · 09-26-2020, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Does anyone here realize that we are only two games into a season with no off-season activities at all and having lost our top offensive weapon for a couple of games and still up one full game in our division?

Then again, I can go back to our post second game threads from the past three years and read the same sort of doom and gloom posts as I see above and by many of the same members. I said the same thing back then that I'm saying now.

Just relax and wait and see. We'll challenge for the #1 seed after winning our forth straight NFC South title. The defense will gel. The offense will click.

I'm still optimistic but we sure don't look like contenders on the field.

AsylumGuido · 09-26-2020, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I'm still optimistic but we sure don't look like contenders on the field.

And how large a sample have we seen? You can expect the first several games by all teams to be basically preseason even more than the last few years with the practice cutbacks via the CBA's. How many others games have you seen? I've seen much of most. There's not many teams looking like contenders yet.

Rugby Saint II · 09-27-2020, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And how large a sample have we seen? You can expect the first several games by all teams to be basically preseason even more than the last few years with the practice cutbacks via the CBA's. How many others games have you seen? I've seen much of most. There's not many teams looking like contenders yet.

I only watch the Saints and will watch the competition so I'm knowledgeable about our opponents. Nonetheless, from what I've read they are playing crisply like we thought we were going to be before we imploded. 2-0 vs 1-1 team that barely squeaked by doesn't inspire confidence. Don't get me wrong I still believe and I'm optimistic but I'm not as optimistic as I was listening to the media hype us up.

There is no doubt that we look sloppy and sluggish.

The Dude · 09-26-2020, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Rueben Mayes

I feel like a big part of the Saints offensive game plan should be to pound the Packers run defense with the combo of Kamara & Murray running the ball...a lot. The Packers D against the run is suspect and this would take some pressure off Brees and the Michael Thomas-less WR corps

What do y'all in the B&G Universe think Would love to hear others' thoughts!!!

That would be great and all and I agree but as long as Payton is coach we will abandon the run.
It’s funny because I heard him in an interview talking about how dangerous GB is because they have balance and how the RB is the QBs best friend.

09-26-2020, 11:07 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,521	Re: Saints vs Packers Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 His ego will doom this team this year. Take what the defense gives you. Don’t force stuff just cause you think you won’t be heralded as a offensive genius no more Precisely, in years past, getting away from the run wasnt ideal but we got by because the offense was so dangerous and could explode for a big play at any time. That ain't happening anymore unless Taysom comes in. jnormand, Rueben Mayes, bobdog86 and 1 others like this.

09-26-2020, 11:23 AM	#3
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Saints vs Packers Originally Posted by dizzle88 Precisely, in years past, getting away from the run wasnt ideal but we got by because the offense was so dangerous and could explode for a big play at any time. That ain't happening anymore unless Taysom comes in. I agree, he’s stuck in yesteryear. When we went to a ball control offense it worked really well with Teddy. He needs to do that with Drew. I know it’s not flashy but it works and that’s what matters. Possess the ball for long drives, wear down their defense, while keeping ours fresh. Is a recipe for success. jnormand, Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and 1 others like this.

09-26-2020, 04:48 AM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,521	Re: Saints vs Packers Cover 2 never use to be safe against Drew because he would just attack the seams and dismantle it. Now however, Cover 2 or Single high is completely fine against Brees because he can't attack teams deep and it means they can committ all this extra defensive help to the primary receiver - Kamara out of the backfield. jnormand and Rueben Mayes like this.

09-26-2020, 12:43 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,125	Re: Saints vs Packers It looks like the Saints bought into their hype. They don't have the advantage because we don't have that killer attitude. gosaints1 likes this.

09-26-2020, 01:56 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,560	Re: Saints vs Packers Does anyone here realize that we are only two games into a season with no off-season activities at all and having lost our top offensive weapon for a couple of games and still up one full game in our division? Then again, I can go back to our post second game threads from the past three years and read the same sort of doom and gloom posts as I see above and by many of the same members. I said the same thing back then that I'm saying now. Just relax and wait and see. We'll challenge for the #1 seed after winning our forth straight NFC South title. The defense will gel. The offense will click. Thirty3 likes this.
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09-26-2020, 10:51 AM	#1
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Saints vs Packers Originally Posted by dizzle88 Yup, unfortunately this team is controlled by Paytons ego. If he wants to give up on the run and put the ball in the air, that's what's going to happen. Even if the Raiders couldn't stop the run. His ego will doom this team this year. Take what the defense gives you. Don’t force stuff just cause you think you won’t be heralded as a offensive genius no more dizzle88 and Rueben Mayes like this.

09-26-2020, 02:00 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,125	Re: Saints vs Packers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Does anyone here realize that we are only two games into a season with no off-season activities at all and having lost our top offensive weapon for a couple of games and still up one full game in our division? Then again, I can go back to our post second game threads from the past three years and read the same sort of doom and gloom posts as I see above and by many of the same members. I said the same thing back then that I'm saying now. Just relax and wait and see. We'll challenge for the #1 seed after winning our forth straight NFC South title. The defense will gel. The offense will click. I'm still optimistic but we sure don't look like contenders on the field.

09-26-2020, 02:09 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,560	Re: Saints vs Packers Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I'm still optimistic but we sure don't look like contenders on the field. And how large a sample have we seen? You can expect the first several games by all teams to be basically preseason even more than the last few years with the practice cutbacks via the CBA's. How many others games have you seen? I've seen much of most. There's not many teams looking like contenders yet. Rueben Mayes likes this.

09-27-2020, 01:35 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,125	Re: Saints vs Packers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And how large a sample have we seen? You can expect the first several games by all teams to be basically preseason even more than the last few years with the practice cutbacks via the CBA's. How many others games have you seen? I've seen much of most. There's not many teams looking like contenders yet. I only watch the Saints and will watch the competition so I'm knowledgeable about our opponents. Nonetheless, from what I've read they are playing crisply like we thought we were going to be before we imploded. 2-0 vs 1-1 team that barely squeaked by doesn't inspire confidence. Don't get me wrong I still believe and I'm optimistic but I'm not as optimistic as I was listening to the media hype us up. There is no doubt that we look sloppy and sluggish.

09-26-2020, 04:30 PM	#10
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Saints vs Packers Originally Posted by Rueben Mayes I feel like a big part of the Saints offensive game plan should be to pound the Packers run defense with the combo of Kamara & Murray running the ball...a lot. The Packers D against the run is suspect and this would take some pressure off Brees and the Michael Thomas-less WR corps What do y'all in the B&G Universe think Would love to hear others' thoughts!!! That would be great and all and I agree but as long as Payton is coach we will abandon the run. It’s funny because I heard him in an interview talking about how dangerous GB is because they have balance and how the RB is the QBs best friend. Rueben Mayes likes this.
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