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84 other defensive coaches who failed here determined that was a lie

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 898618)

Allen is one of those guys that are too smart for their own good. In key situations he tries things that often backfire because he's outthought himself. Sometimes it's good to just do the tried and tested thing, The irony is he's not exactly what I'd call creative either. He's the type of coach to play the odds which may seem like a contradiction to what I said above, but somehow it isn't when it comes to him. I don't think he is a bad defensive coordinator, as he was a huge upgrade from Rob Ryan. There are better coaches out there though. I wish we would have kept Spags and got him the personnel he needed. I think if Payton never gets suspended, we'd still have Spags and maybe have a couple of SBs as our defense would have been good in years in which our offense was really booming. People really underestimate how much the bountygate bull**** set us back. It screwed up many things that may not seem obvious at first glance. Without it. I think Brees has 3 titles at the very least.

you spelled Sean D E N N I S, thats not how that i spelled

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 898631)

Almost makes you wonder just how much Mike Nolan helped.

Nolan was the glue and the real strategist

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All of this talk about Nolan and how good he is. hmmm..., my guess is there is a reason why he hasn’t stuck with any team more than 2 or 3 years as a defensive coordinator. He’s been the defensive coordinator for 8 different NFL teams over a combined 14 years. Things like that don’t just happen randomly, there is a reason

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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 898642)

Perhaps maybe his scheme gets old after a while or won’t let head coaches sh*t on him who knows. Either way he’s a hell of a linebackers coach though

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In all truthiness, it very well could be his social engineering skills, or lack thereof. But, if there is one thing I know about the NFL as an industry, it’s that success is the panacea to everything, including interpersonal ability. And agreed, I’ve always thought he was a heckuva position coach also.

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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 898617)

S.Spagnuolo is riding the coattails of one of the most talented and electrifying players to play the game right now, quite possibly..., ever. KC’s defenses suck, the SB win is not bc of his stellar defense, that’s for sure. Very simply, KC’s offense can easily drop a 50 burger on you without batting an eye.

And Wade Phillips? lol, Please tell me we aren’t serious with this guy. Once was enough, I hope to never see him, in any capacity working in the Superdome again. He was fortunate with the players he had during his stint with the Saints back in the early 80’s. It sure wasn’t his coaching.

I’m not a huge fan of Dennis Allen, but looking back over the last few years, and our playoff exits, it wasn’t the coordinator that missed the tackles, the players were put in the proper position to make the plays and the schemes were good, for the most part.

Saints were in the AFC they would have more than 1 SB.

AFC SB winners of the past 20 years has only been 7 different teams.

Steelers, Patriots, Chiefs, Ravens, Colts, Broncos, and Raiders.

Broncos and Colts was both by the same QB and have regressed tremendously since retiring.

I got to respect the chiefs but hate it at the same time that their is nothing else in the AFC to stop them possibly for the next 2-3 years, how weak the AFC has been. If Andy Reids Eagles were in the AFC just imagine the SBs he would of won with them.

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 898637)

you spelled Sean D E N N I S, thats not how that i spelled

Eh, Sean has potential for high creativity in what he does. He does outthink himself, which ironically makes himself look simplistic. What Dennis Allen does is a bit different than what I'm talking about though. Overall though Sean Payton has an attacking mentality and yet has good balance with calling the right type of plays. When Sean Payton is in rhythm, it's a thing of beauty. Sometimes he gets out of rhythm and it just looks ugly. I trust Sean though.

Dennis Allen seems more like a probabilistic/statistical coach to me. He plays the odds, makes adjustments that raises his odds. He doesn't have an attacking mind set. Because Allen is such a statistical thinker, what he does becomes predictable. What should be a good play call for him often turns into a bad play call because it's like he never mixes things up and throws something at his opponents out of no where, so even though his play call matches the situation very well, it's far too clear what's coming. He's a guy that can't see the forest for the trees. He's a smart guy that can't escape from the logical side of things and get into the creative mindset. He gets too caught up in doing the right thing instead of trying to obfuscate at least some of the time. That's one of the reasons I think Nolan was good for him, because I think Nolan has the opposite issue. Nolan is a very out of the box type thinker. A big part of defense in the NFL is just to confuse the **** out of the QB and the offense of the other team. This doesn't seem to be something we strive for.

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 898653)

I'd say we'd have more than 1 more Superbowl if we were in the AFC. The NFC is always far too diverse. I feel like half of the damn conference has the potential to win the Super Bowl every year. The AFC is always very top heavy. And NE playing in the AFC East almost feels like a joke. NE has been pretty much guaranteed a high seed every damn year since Tom Brady became the QB.

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 898654)

Must be for Gibbs, Ryan, Spags Williams. I mean how can we just keep blaming the Dcoord? At some point the finger has to point to the man at the helm, in this case SP. Spags just won another super bowl. Come on man, what did he get lucky again? Repeat after me, Sean is the problem with the defense. No matter what players or coordinator we have the defense is always the scapegoat. And somehow Sean continues to survive as if he has no blame. I didn't believe Ryan either but it is all started to make more sense now.