Week 4: Saints Final Injury Report

K Major · 10-02-2020, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

WHERE IS ZACK BAUN?

Yep. Currently watching from the sidelines and on special teams duty.

Kind of dumb for Zach to get no snaps at LB/pass rusher spot when Ellis is struggling, getting burned for TD's and looking out of position.

Saints have done a great job of drafting the last few years, however decisions made by coaches on who to play and sits is puzzling.

AsylumGuido · 10-02-2020, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yep. Currently watching from the sidelines and on special teams duty.

Kind of dumb for Zach to get no snaps at LB/pass rusher spot when Ellis is struggling, getting burned for TD's and looking out of position.

Saints have done a great job of drafting the last few years, however decisions made by coaches on who to play and sits is puzzling.

Just checked. Ellis has only had five snaps on defense so far. Which of those did he get burned for TD's? I believe you, but don't remember. He had three snaps in week one and two last week at LB.

K Major · 10-02-2020, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Just checked. Ellis has only had five snaps on defense so far. Which of those did he get burned for TD's? I believe you, but don't remember. He had three snaps in week one and two last week at LB.

Week 1 vs Tampa and last week vs GB.

Anyways, it does not matter. He's not ready.

AsylumGuido · 10-02-2020, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Week 1 vs Tampa and last week vs GB.

Anyways, it does not matter. He's not ready.

He hasn't had an opportunity. In three games we have only gone FIVE snaps with three true LB's. Did you realize that? Malcolm Jenkins has been in there as LB2 often.

LB snap counts:

Demario Davis LB 212 100.00%
Alex Anzalone LB 161 75.94%
Kaden Elliss LB 5 2.36%

K Major · 10-02-2020, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He hasn't had an opportunity. In three games we have only gone FIVE snaps with three true LB's. Did you realize that? Malcolm Jenkins has been in there as LB2 often.

LB snap counts:

Demario Davis LB 212 100.00%
Alex Anzalone LB 161 75.94%
Kaden Elliss LB 5 2.36%

Tampa game - 1st and goal at the 10, 3 TE set for Brady with the fake to RB and hits OJ Howard wide open in the back of the endzone. Ellis was caught flat footed guarding no one.

Green Bay game - 4th quarter, Saints down by 3. ARod with a naked boot leg to Robert Tonyan for 6. Again, KE responsibility.

Both missed assignments by Ellis. Not Demario, not Alex, or Jenkins.

Not sure why there was a need for you to show me snap counts when I clearly stated Kaden has been beaten for tds. TWICE IN THE REDZONE. He's not only beaten 2'x for TD's, but clearly confusion on his part on both.

Zach Baun needs to be playing in his place on those formations.

I'm on to Detroit.

AsylumGuido · 10-03-2020, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Tampa game - 1st and goal at the 10, 3 TE set for Brady with the fake to RB and hits OJ Howard wide open in the back of the endzone. Ellis was caught flat footed guarding no one.

Green Bay game - 4th quarter, Saints down by 3. ARod with a naked boot leg to Robert Tonyan for 6. Again, KE responsibility.

Both missed assignments by Ellis. Not Demario, not Alex, or Jenkins.

Not sure why there was a need for you to show me snap counts when I clearly stated Kaden has been beaten for tds. TWICE IN THE REDZONE. He's not only beaten 2'x for TD's, but clearly confusion on his part on both.

Zach Baun needs to be playing in his place on those formations.

I'm on to Detroit.

Perhaps neither Baun or Ellis aren't up enough on the defense to be effective. Both young and no OTA's or minicamp.

gosaints1 · 10-03-2020, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Perhaps neither Baun or Ellis aren't up enough on the defense to be effective. Both young and no OTA's or minicamp.

Both young, yes, very true. Ellis however, being drafted in 2019, was afforded all of last year’s full luxuries, including preseason, training camp, etc... He did play in a handful of games last season also, iirc. It shouldn’t take two years to at least not look “lost” while on the field. Bottom line, I would rather see the newly drafted rookie instead of the guy you know can’t play up to speed.

jeanpierre · 10-04-2020, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yep. Currently watching from the sidelines and on special teams duty.

Kind of dumb for Zach to get no snaps at LB/pass rusher spot when Ellis is struggling, getting burned for TD's and looking out of position.

Saints have done a great job of drafting the last few years, however decisions made by coaches on who to play and sits is puzzling.

And how, where, and when to play them...

10-02-2020, 04:51 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,825 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week 4: Saints Final Injury Report Originally Posted by Rell&Gold WHERE IS ZACK BAUN? Yep. Currently watching from the sidelines and on special teams duty. Kind of dumb for Zach to get no snaps at LB/pass rusher spot when Ellis is struggling, getting burned for TD's and looking out of position. Saints have done a great job of drafting the last few years, however decisions made by coaches on who to play and sits is puzzling. jeanpierre, dizzle88, Rueben Mayes and 2 others like this.

10-02-2020, 05:06 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Week 4: Saints Final Injury Report Originally Posted by K Major Yep. Currently watching from the sidelines and on special teams duty. Kind of dumb for Zach to get no snaps at LB/pass rusher spot when Ellis is struggling, getting burned for TD's and looking out of position. Saints have done a great job of drafting the last few years, however decisions made by coaches on who to play and sits is puzzling. Just checked. Ellis has only had five snaps on defense so far. Which of those did he get burned for TD's? I believe you, but don't remember. He had three snaps in week one and two last week at LB.

10-02-2020, 05:23 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,825 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week 4: Saints Final Injury Report Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Just checked. Ellis has only had five snaps on defense so far. Which of those did he get burned for TD's? I believe you, but don't remember. He had three snaps in week one and two last week at LB. Week 1 vs Tampa and last week vs GB. Anyways, it does not matter. He's not ready.

10-02-2020, 05:32 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Week 4: Saints Final Injury Report Originally Posted by K Major Week 1 vs Tampa and last week vs GB. Anyways, it does not matter. He's not ready. He hasn't had an opportunity. In three games we have only gone FIVE snaps with three true LB's. Did you realize that? Malcolm Jenkins has been in there as LB2 often. LB snap counts: Demario Davis LB 212 100.00% Alex Anzalone LB 161 75.94% Kaden Elliss LB 5 2.36%

10-02-2020, 08:01 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,825 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week 4: Saints Final Injury Report Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He hasn't had an opportunity. In three games we have only gone FIVE snaps with three true LB's. Did you realize that? Malcolm Jenkins has been in there as LB2 often. LB snap counts: Demario Davis LB 212 100.00% Alex Anzalone LB 161 75.94% Kaden Elliss LB 5 2.36% Tampa game - 1st and goal at the 10, 3 TE set for Brady with the fake to RB and hits OJ Howard wide open in the back of the endzone. Ellis was caught flat footed guarding no one. Green Bay game - 4th quarter, Saints down by 3. ARod with a naked boot leg to Robert Tonyan for 6. Again, KE responsibility. Both missed assignments by Ellis. Not Demario, not Alex, or Jenkins. Not sure why there was a need for you to show me snap counts when I clearly stated Kaden has been beaten for tds. TWICE IN THE REDZONE. He's not only beaten 2'x for TD's, but clearly confusion on his part on both. Zach Baun needs to be playing in his place on those formations. I'm on to Detroit. dizzle88, gosaints1 and shawnkytonk like this.

10-03-2020, 08:18 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Week 4: Saints Final Injury Report Originally Posted by K Major Tampa game - 1st and goal at the 10, 3 TE set for Brady with the fake to RB and hits OJ Howard wide open in the back of the endzone. Ellis was caught flat footed guarding no one. Green Bay game - 4th quarter, Saints down by 3. ARod with a naked boot leg to Robert Tonyan for 6. Again, KE responsibility. Both missed assignments by Ellis. Not Demario, not Alex, or Jenkins. Not sure why there was a need for you to show me snap counts when I clearly stated Kaden has been beaten for tds. TWICE IN THE REDZONE. He's not only beaten 2'x for TD's, but clearly confusion on his part on both. Zach Baun needs to be playing in his place on those formations. I'm on to Detroit. Perhaps neither Baun or Ellis aren't up enough on the defense to be effective. Both young and no OTA's or minicamp.

10-03-2020, 08:29 AM	#7
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Week 4: Saints Final Injury Report Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Perhaps neither Baun or Ellis aren't up enough on the defense to be effective. Both young and no OTA's or minicamp. Both young, yes, very true. Ellis however, being drafted in 2019, was afforded all of last year’s full luxuries, including preseason, training camp, etc... He did play in a handful of games last season also, iirc. It shouldn’t take two years to at least not look “lost” while on the field. Bottom line, I would rather see the newly drafted rookie instead of the guy you know can’t play up to speed.
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10-04-2020, 09:20 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Week 4: Saints Final Injury Report Originally Posted by K Major Yep. Currently watching from the sidelines and on special teams duty. Kind of dumb for Zach to get no snaps at LB/pass rusher spot when Ellis is struggling, getting burned for TD's and looking out of position. Saints have done a great job of drafting the last few years, however decisions made by coaches on who to play and sits is puzzling. And how, where, and when to play them...