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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Stop the Madness on Drew Brees Kyle T. Mosley 9 hours ago The Saints did defeat the Buccaneers. Right? Drew Brees was in that game, wasn't he? Brees and the Saints team beat Tom Brady and his ballyhooed team of ...

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Old 10-07-2020, 04:49 PM   #1
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Kyle T. Mosley: Stop the Madness on Drew Brees

Stop the Madness on Drew Brees

Kyle T. Mosley

9 hours ago


The Saints did defeat the Buccaneers. Right? Drew Brees was in that game, wasn't he? Brees and the Saints team beat Tom Brady and his ballyhooed team of plunderers in Week 1. But since that time, all has been forgotten.

Fast forward four weeks, with losses to Las Vegas and Green Bay, the narrative has become the acclaimed downfall of Drew Brees' career in the NFL. Football writers, reporters, television experts, and fantasy football soothsayers, have written or proclaimed the demise of the NFL's all-time passing leader. A few have sounded the alarm for quarterback Jameis Winston to supplant Brees as the Saints' field general. STOP THE MADNESS!

It's much ado about nothing.

Some in the media should get from behind their keyboards and stop writing Brees' obituary. The truth is that New Orleans may no longer find it necessary to be a pass-first team. The emergence of the rushing tandem in running backs Alvin Kamara (236 yds) and Latavius Murray (184 yds) could help keep Brees (71.3% completion rate) safe and extend his play in 2020. The pair has 420 yards on the ground and an average close to 4.5 yards per attempt.

But let's be real with one another; opposing defensive coordinators must respect the fact that #9 is still under center and dons Black and Gold.

Since all the Pro Football Focus and NextGen analysts have pontificated on Brees' arm strength and measurement of the "amount of air under his throws," the over-analysis was exhausting for the Saints fans, football's purists, and the Saints themselves.

Alvin Kamara said it best last week, "It’s early in the season. Everybody outside of this building has something to say, and quite honestly, I don’t really give a damn. Drew’s proven to be one of the best, if not the best, quarterbacks year in and year out, and I’m expecting the same this year no matter what’s going on." Kamara continued, “When you’re losing, it’s easy to point fingers and say this and say that. But we’ll get back on track, and everybody will shut up.”

Why do so many doubt the most accurate passer in the game's history and give Tom Brady a pass? Wasn't it Brady who received criticism from his coach, Bruce Arians, for his underwhelming performance versus the Saints in the season's opener? Yet, national media pundits were more accepting of his loss and maintained his perceived G.O.A.T. status. Brees' quarterbacking, on the other hand, was inspected, dissected, and disrespected across many websites, podcasts/radio, and TV shows.

Yes, age shows on everyone, if you're blessed to grow older these days. I am sure at 41, getting mentally and physically ready for an NFL game is more complicated than ever before. Brees reflexes may be slower, and his timing may have been slightly off, but so was Brady's. Without having OTAs, Minicamps, and a true offseason regimen, it was expected a little rust would show. However, in the Lions game, Sean Payton and Brees have polished their act.

The bottom line is simple. There are still few quarterbacks in the National Football League that will figure it out, revised their plan, and execute at a higher level than Drew Brees. Is Brees the Drew Brees of 2009? Of course, not. But he has one thing going for him few guys like Taysom Hill and Jameis Winston don't have, wisdom and knowledge of the game.

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“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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Old 10-07-2020, 05:28 PM   #2
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Re: Kyle T. Mosley: Stop the Madness on Drew Brees

That article is illogical madness - Not one logical-factual argument made countering Brees' obvious decline in physical skills...

A mindless rant jumping from various points without any structural argument to the writer's hopeful, at least mine, conclusion to the article...

We've better writers right here on BlackandGold.com...
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Old 10-07-2020, 05:41 PM   #3
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Re: Kyle T. Mosley: Stop the Madness on Drew Brees

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
That article is illogical madness - Not one logical-factual argument made countering Brees' obvious decline in physical skills...

An mindless rant jumping from various points without any structural argument to the writer's hopeful, at least mine, conclusion to the article...

We've better writers right here on BlackandGold.com...
Did you go to the site? It is labeled as an editorial/opinion piece. I happen to agree with his opinion that out of the QB's we have on our roster Brees gives us the best chance to win on a weekly basis and the best chance to win another Lombardi. Is he the same QB as he was in 2009? In 2013? In 2018? No, probably not, but he is still one of the best all round QB's in the NFL today.

I sure didn't mean to get you so riled up by posting his editorial.



Oh, and where did he present any "argument made countering Brees' obvious decline in physical skills..."? From what I read he mentioned Brees' decline.

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Did you go to the site? It is labeled as an editorial/opinion piece. I happen to agree with his opinion that out of the QB's we have on our roster Brees gives us the best chance to win on a weekly basis and the best chance to win another Lombardi. Is he the same QB as he was in 2009? In 2013? In 2018? No, probably not, but he is still one of the best all round QB's in the NFL today.

I sure didn't mean to get you so riled up by posting his editorial.



Oh, and where did he present any "argument made countering Brees' obvious decline in physical skills..."? From what I read he mentioned Brees' decline.
Read the article. Once again you make a false assumption that I'm riled up when the real question is are you riled up? You get pretty hostile in any criticism of the Saints. Any. Criticism.

In regard to the "argument made countering Brees' obvious decline in physical skills..." you need only look at your post and the article where he writes it off in a dismissive tone - read your own article...

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Read the article. Once again you make a false assumption that I'm riled up when the real question is are you riled up? You get pretty hostile in any criticism of the Saints. Any. Criticism.

In regard to the "argument made countering Brees' obvious decline in physical skills..." you need only look at your post and the article where he writes it off in a dismissive tone - read your own article...
And what is wrong with a "dismissive tone" in an opinion piece?

And, yes, I apologize for being perhaps the most dedicated Saints fan on this site. Shoot me. What exactly is so wrong with that? Why is that a bad thing?



Four games into a weird season. No OTA's or mini-camps. Limited practices. Yeah, let's start making blanket judgements with all of this incredible volume of sample.

Once again, I apologize for being a totally dedicated fan. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

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You two need Jesus.

I can not make heads or tails of what is being critiqued or defended here. Is it Drew's play, the authors writing skills, each others fanaticism?
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
You two need Jesus.

I can not make heads or tails of what is being critiqued or defended here. Is it Drew's play, the authors writing skills, each others fanaticism?
Yes. Pretty much all of that. lol
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Re: Kyle T. Mosley: Stop the Madness on Drew Brees

Barring injury ... Drew Brees will be the starting QB for the Saints this season. I believe Coach is starting the best QB he currently available that give the team the best chance of winning.

If Taysom or Winston were the better QB for the team at this time they would be starting. I will watch and support whoever the QB for the Saints maybe.
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Re: Kyle T. Mosley: Stop the Madness on Drew Brees

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat View Post
Barring injury ... Drew Brees will be the starting QB for the Saints this season. I believe Coach is starting the best QB he currently available that give the team the best chance of winning.

If Taysom or Winston were the better QB for the team at this time they would be starting. I will watch and support whoever the QB for the Saints maybe.
I know that Saints fans have been spoiled for a while now but these numbers are pretty darn good in my opinion. It's what I'd expect for the old man at this stage in his career. I'd still take him over the majority of starting QB's in the NFL.

Drew Brees
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2020
Regular Season
COMP % 71.3

YARDS 1006

TD 8

INT 2

QBR 108.2
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Re: Kyle T. Mosley: Stop the Madness on Drew Brees

Does anyone here honestly believe that Payton would sit Drew? Not as long as Drew can hand the ball off.
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