Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 900128)

Lol Now people are saying Dennis Allen's D is too complex, eventually you have to look for common denominators as the exact same thing was said about Rob Ryan.

Either Payton and the staff are consistently drafting and signing dumb players or Payton himself is the issue.

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 900132)

How would Sean Payton have any hand in D backs not playing the ball and their PI calls?

We lead the league in DPI and not by a small margin.

11- DPI / 244- Yards (Saints)

7 DPI: Second most (Jacksonville)
105 Yards: Second most (Tampa Bay)

Please explain how the above doesn't fall in the Defensive coaching staff?

I heard Brian Grease in the 2nd half say 'Herbert should just throw it up and get the PI that the Saints DBacks are known for giving.'

3rd Qtr first Charger possession (Go back and watch it).. Deep Ball to M. Williams. Two defenders on him and no one but Williams looking for the ball.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 900131)

We gave up 20 to a rookie QB. We gave up 20 on the same busted coverages we've seen since week one.

If we don't come out of the bye week with a more cohesive performance in the secondary, good QBs will continue to exploit the weakness and we're at a best a one and done playoff team.

Hopefully an improved pass rush will allow DA to put his players in a better position to succeed.

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 900132)

I heard Brian Grease in the 2nd half say 'Herbert should just throw it up and get the PI that the Saints DBacks are known for giving.'

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 900163)

Dennis Allen fail ... the DB’s are not in position to make plays Especially the Safeties ... To many switches going on and flat out missed assignments. After every big catch you see our defenders looking at each other ... was that my assignment or was the your assignment ... better take this bye week and rethink what going on here. Offense is not looking great but putting up enough points to win if the defense (secondary) just plays decent.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 900103)

While it does have a bearing on whether a team is successful or not, my stressing over what they do or don't do has zero impact on what they actually do or do not do in the future. That's my point. Why stress over something that you (not meaning you) have no control over.

Win or lose some people fixate on the negatives. From my point of view nothing can be gained by that but increased anxiety. Perhaps others get some sort of pleasure out of it, however. I don't know.

All I said was that coming in here during a game, or after a loss, or even after a win, does not add to my enjoyment of my Saints whatsoever when I am bombarded by pointless (as in they can accomplish nothing) complaints.

I honestly believe that some get more entertainment out of the critique than of the actual games themselves. But, if that's what blows their skirts up, then fine. Just sharing my opinion.

That all said, I'll be seeing very little of y'all over the next ten days or so since I'll be on the road taking in four or five of my son's shows in Nashville and then cruising a bit of Route 66 on a round-a-bout way back home. A good way to spend a bye week.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 900166)

That rookie just put up 31 on the Bucs and damn near knocked them off for us. He’s got weapons all over the field. Mike Williams is an AMAZING wide receiver. Hunter Henry is a great TE. A nice stable of young backs. I’m trynna tell y’all, defense isn’t anywhere near the issue we’re making it. The Raiders just put up 40 on the Chiefs and nobody is thinking any lesser of KC’s Super Bowl chances.

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 900171)

If you are trying to scheme confusion, you are only a cunt hair from convolution. Dennis doesn't have faith in his players so he tries to out smart opposing QBs.


The result is essentially Lieutenant land navigation.

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 900132)

How would Sean Payton have any hand in D backs not playing the ball and their PI calls?

We lead the league in DPI and not by a small margin.

11- DPI / 244- Yards (Saints)

7 DPI: Second most (Jacksonville)
105 Yards: Second most (Tampa Bay)

Please explain how the above doesn't fall in the Defensive coaching staff?

I heard Brian Grease in the 2nd half say 'Herbert should just throw it up and get the PI that the Saints DBacks are known for giving.'

3rd Qtr first Charger possession (Go back and watch it).. Deep Ball to M. Williams. Two defenders on him and no one but Williams looking for the ball.

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 900171)

If you are trying to scheme confusion, you are only a cunt hair from convolution. Dennis doesn't have faith in his players so he tries to out smart opposing QBs.


The result is essentially Lieutenant land navigation.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 900209)

On the topic of coaches/players not in position etc …



Watching Titans/Bills last night, I focused on former Saints 1st rounder SS Kenny Vacarro. He had a lot of mental lapses with us however the last few seasons up in TN, it's all but gone. In that system, he's actually been a pretty good defensive player for them.



Coaching?

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 900212)

Well, he made plenty of mistakes in the week 3 Vikings game that I saw.

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 900189)

I got to get to the dictionary on this one lol


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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 900209)

On the topic of coaches/players not in position etc …

Watching Titans/Bills last night, I focused on former Saints 1st rounder SS Kenny Vacarro. He had a lot of mental lapses with us however the last few seasons up in TN, it's all but gone. In that system, he's actually been a pretty good defensive player for them.

Coaching?

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 900220)

Sorry, not trying to be like that. I see this a lot when mathematicians try to write process maps, they don’t take efficiency into account.

At some point scheme complexity crosses the line into a confusing mess that even the creator has trouble following with out taking a moment to think about it.

Dennis Allen’s ideas are probably brilliant and on paper the formulation works. The break down comes when defensive players are trying to execute his plan and its so complicated that they have to think. Those guys have time to react, not to think. 1/2 a second of thought puts a WR 2-3 yards in front of you.