Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

I look at it realistically. Thomas and Drew miles apart. bet Thomas is gone before the seasons over. He made is KWAN....now he will be Gone

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Just can't see a $20+ million dead cap hit next year. Thomas ain't going anywhere.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

I'll take that bet. $20?

Brees said he talks to Thomas daily. You are far from realistic. But, if it means making $20 I'll take your pipedream.

Deal?

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Shhhh! Quiet. I'm trying to take mapcow's money.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

First off Guido, I try hard to be an honest man. Yes, I may mislead my girl once in a while but I don't lie. I'm just not very good at it.

Secondly, I don't appreciate you calling me a liar! I'm not trying to stir up ****. I simply said that I don't buy it. How is that a lie? It's a different interpretation from yours is all. I've been supportive of your disingenuous attitude but this crossed way over the line. Maybe that attitude flies on SR but not here! Thanks for being such a bright ray of sunshine...:brood:

Edit: What you believe doesn't matter to me now...at least not more than my unimportant opinion matters. Chill out!!! I just don't buy that they worked it out. I don't see the evidence. But obviously you buy it because you want to.

Oh, and let's not make this a back and forth. I've always respected your opinion. Maybe you should respect my right to have an opinion. Damn son! :argue:

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Rugs. I never said you lied. Read my post again. I said that both Brees and Thomas, and for that matter Brees and Malcolm Jenkins, have stated publicly that they talked things through and are now cool. The reference to lying was my saying that none of them have anything to gain by lying about the fact that there is not a lingering issue between them. I haven't seen any evidence that they are not telling the truth, have you?

It had nothing whatsoever to do with you or your opinion. Nowhere did I ever call you a liar. In fact, you have every right to think that Brees, Thomas and Jenkins are liars whether they have anything to gain from it or not. That is your right.

I'm sorry but you somehow totally misinterpreted my reply. Read it over again carefully and you'll understand.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

I did in fact misread it. Your post read they not you. My apologies! I've been reading SR too much lately.:dunce:

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

It's all cool, Rugs ... just like with Brees and Thomas.

;)

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

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Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

and you are there physically when they talk of course. Trust me... Thomas is gone.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

No need to wager money.... i just bet Thomas is gone.... If i am wrong, i will accept it.... but can you.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Once again, $20 says he isn't unless you are afraid. Or if you know that you are full of crap.

Well, is it a bet? You can pay me via Venmo when you lose.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Y’all argue more than the team does ;)

As a matter of fact, y’all are arguing about an argument. Brilliant lol


By the way.... THIS place is social media, how are some people acting any different than the players?

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Yes we do. That's my point.

:D

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I edited/elaborated . Lol

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Exactly. These players are adults AND professionals. No matter how much I argue with someone on this social media site I would buy them a beer and be closest friends at the game.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

I am so positive that you are wrong that I want to collect some salad over it. If you were as sure as you say you would do the same. I suspect that you know you are wrong and not willing to lose $20. I'll give you a break and go $10.

Oh, by the way, Michael Thomas is back at practice today. No surprise.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Is you ignorant or something.... I just said i can admit if i am wrong. Thomas is gone... if not, i guess you told me. But we will see, I guess. I'll give you a break and offer 0$ :dunce: I know another blowhard out there that always got to put money out ....:bng:

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Ok. I got it. You clearly have no confidence behind what you are claiming. Perhaps you finally realized the Saints take a $20 million cap hit if Thomas is traded or cut. In other words, he can't go anywhere else right now.

Sure would have liked your money. Just being right with no reward gets old.

By the way, why do you care one way or another if you claim you aren't watching any games?

Although, it would explain why you are so out of touch with reality.

:rolleyes:

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Take the hit. He won't have nearly the success he had here. Not even close. Guy had it made then starts running his mouth and starting shLt. Take the hit and dump him. It's not all about cap hits. He is toxic to the team and will be to any other team and end up with a shLt career. It happens. Learn from it and move on. Patriots would have never gave him that coin. They would have reloaded. We are winning without him. We did the same without Brees. Stop putting these players on some trophy cases. They are all expendable.


Except Kamara. He plays like three positions. Totally worth it. Probably can out run MT too.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Dude.... just accept the fact when Thomas leaves... you heard it hear that i said he made his KWAN now he's gone.

Triggered much.
:dunce:

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Keep dreaming ... dude. Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Do you have a clue how it even works?

Cutting or trading Thomas this season would result in a $20 million cap hit because of accelerated guarantees and bonuses. He cannot be traded or released (even if they would ever dream to do either) this year. Next year would still cost the Saints $14 million in dead cap which the Saints will not have, especially if Brees decides to retire. 2022 is the earliest that they can separate from Thomas if they even wanted to. All they could do is sit him and continue paying him and that would be as ridiculous as your goofy assed scenario.

I'm sorry but you have no sense of reality.

:rolleyes:

Edit: By the way, what the hell is a kwan? :confused:

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

I happen to agree with you here, I just don’t see CGM going anywhere. That being said..., when any of us forumites have questioned the machinations of Loomis/Payton wrt managing the cap, some guy named AsylumGuido always sticks his head in and laughs at us, lol. Telling us that we don’t understand how great they are at doing the impossible when it comes to “kicking the can” down the proverbial road.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

This is true, but that road travel two ways. You can kick it up road if extending or restructuring a player. But, that can comes barreling straight downhill into your face if you attempt to cut ties with that player too early in the contract.

They talked about this very scenario on Moving the Chains a couple of days ago when a caller suggested the Falcons should trade Julio Jones. They said that it was impossible to trade him until 2022 because of his contract cap hit, which is very similar to Thomas'. The same with Matt Ryan.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Agreed, specifically wrt to our player Thomas, that would ultimately be a cost benefit analysis that, imho, I would have a very difficult time understanding the reason or logic behind it, if it were to happen. Regardless, I’m a fan of the player, he’s a superstar. He dominates the playing field..., you just don’t find those types of players every day. And I look forward to him getting healthy and on the field.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Right there with you. In reference to the other thread, Michael Thomas is easily one of my all-time favorites and I hope to see him breaking records and winning championships with the Saints for the next decade.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Thomas will be here as long as it is feasible to keep him. There is his gigantic salary to consider but at some point teams will move on from a highly paid disruptor for the sake of team unity. I want Thomas here because he's so dang good! If he becomes a disruptive diva I could see moving on from him since the rest of our receivers are stepping up and playing well.

Still, I want to keep him as a security blanket for our new QB when Drew hangs up his cleats. It's looking more and more like this may be his final season since his limitations are more noticeable with an aging arm that has lost it's battle with time and injury.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

That arm is leading the league in completion percentage. Just saying.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Another game day no show from Thomas... made his kwan... no he gone.

:bng:

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Another game day no show..Thomas He made is kwan ... now he gone.

:bng:

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Here's a little reality for ya.... poor babbette got his fweelings hurt...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...mwW?li=BBnb7Kz

:bng:

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

I don’t discount the possibility of a rift, quite possibly a serious rift, between CGM and the Saints, as a team, or from an organizational standpoint. And, it’s entirely possible it’s his last year here, I just didn’t see him being traded at this very minute, before the trade deadline. I like the guy bc of how dominating he is on the field and the Saints have missed him playing, regardless of record. But if he’s gone next year, I won’t lose any sleep, that’s a guarantee! Player’s move around the league for many reasons. You won’t catch me being a “homer” for any active player or coach. Every player is a cost benefit analysis. Every. Single. Player. And coach also, lol. Regardless, you may prove correct, I don’t know..., I just see the very obvious reasons why trading him immediately is a very, very, tough call.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

How is that reality? That is undoubtedly an opinion piece. Haters wanna hate as they say.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Some people just don't let facts stand in the way of that hate, either.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Media needs to fill content and sow controversy... if 60% of talking head reporting BS opinion ... not fact.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Not true. Every single thing CNN reports is 100% fact with no bias whatsoever.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

Yep. I heard on CNN that the Saints had a deal done to trade Thomas but for Russian interference.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

I thought we wanted to keep politics out of football. I mean, who actually watches CNN? Get your news the old fashioned way.......read it. And not on Fakebook.

Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

I wish the wizards would kill this thread. Plahhheeese


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Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?
 

It was dying. You just gave it mouth to mouth.