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Re: Luke Johnson | What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Yeah the safeties absolutely blew it. Williams chose to double a WR on a shallow route and Jenkins was just kind of hanging out way to shallow. I’m just playing devil’s advocate though that it wasn’t necessarily entirely on them.
I’ve said before that out secondary’s woes are due to Vonn Bell’s absence as he was the captain of our secondary and did all of the communication. Other very intelligent members here pointed out the flaws in my logic though so I don’t know if I’m right or not, but man... I just don’t think the miscommunication would be as bad if Bell were still here. |
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10-25-2020, 09:24 PM | #23 |
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Re: Luke Johnson | What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
JP -
My quick rant on safety play … Earl is probably not a popular choice in NO, however we need a change at Free Safety. How about the guy from the Jets Marcus Maye? Or Malik Hooker? The lack of execution is atrocious. Four years into the system, playing in coverages he should be familiar with. You expect these mistakes from a rookie, not a 4 year starter in Dennis Allen's system. He seems to be baited on long ball after long ball continuously. A lot of those 40, 50, 60 yard bombs are coming from Marcus. He's no ball hawk and can't tackle. Did you notice how 2 Glove Teddy walked him 5 yards off his zone to throw a deep post route ? C'mon man, that is unacceptable. For the collective amount of talent on defense, they are grossly under performing. No reason for it, other than looking at coaches. Is it Allen, Glenn or the players? Technique, eyes, communication, Jenkins "experiment' has failed. What are they teaching in film study? I thought Malcolm was brought in to help Marcus? What ever Dennis is asking these guys to do, they aren't executing on Sundays. Red zone defense, pass deflections are almost non existent for us. It's gonna get ugly when the Saints face the big boys. IMO Marcus Williams needs to be benched. Why is DJ Swearinger inactive 2 weeks in a row? Activate him or make a phone call, find a trading partner at safety. Davenport … when he plays? … a beast. Same goes for David O. We can't expect the great Brees, AK to play perfect every week. Carolina should have been blown out today. You aren't hoisting a Lombardi with that defense. End rant. |
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10-25-2020, 09:27 PM | #24 |
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Re: Luke Johnson | What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win
Originally Posted by K Major
Don’t see a rant from you too often brother... love it. Can’t disagree with anything you said. That’s why I suggested trading for Harrison Smith.
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10-25-2020, 09:29 PM | #25 |
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Re: Luke Johnson | What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win
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The long touchdown? their first score?
You are correct, but gotta defend Demario moved up on his responsibility that was running underneath, which was probably by design on the Panthers', Brady'd part as we run those same divergent routes... Mr. Marcus broke prematurely to help the CB, which actually wasn't necessary... And Jenkins, as I'm sure NFL scouting has caught it, as an NFL Insider on the Outside even noticed that Malcolm Jenkins has been lazy, too shallow in his cover-2 drops all season long... As the WR was cutting post into Jenkins' zone off an initial seam read, I hang that one 60/40 Jenkins/Mr. Marcus... Another comment about why I'd prefer to keep Bell over Jenkins - Bell has never won a SuperBowl and Jenkins has his ring and money, plus his priorities now are more in his post-NFL commentary persona...* |
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10-25-2020, 09:32 PM | #26 |
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Re: Luke Johnson | What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win
Originally Posted by K Major
Hooker is injured and the Colts really like what they drafted...
But as I posted earlier, Mr. Marcus was done by default when Malcolm was brought in under the pretense of veteran leadership and maturity - it was a deep draft for safeties and we should've moved Mr. Marcus then... Marcus, Lattimore, all have regressed in the Dennis Allen/Aaron Glenn secondary; For Mr. Marcus, I think they've made the reads way too complicated, ala Ryan, and he's taking too long to read/react... Marcus was an elite safety and DA and Glenn, along with Sean's personnel move for Jenkins undermined Mr. Marcus as the leader of that secondary - there's more blame on Sean, DA and Glenn, than Marcus... |
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10-25-2020, 09:33 PM | #27 |
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Re: Luke Johnson | What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win
You’re absolutely right JP about CJGJ should be our SS. He’s been exposed a bit as a nickel CB this season.
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10-25-2020, 09:37 PM | #28 |
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Re: Luke Johnson | What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win
When opponents have gotten to Gardner, it's almost always been early; he's got game smarts and he adapts quickly to what they're doing - I'd rather have him give it up early than late...
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10-25-2020, 11:06 PM | #29 |
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Re: Luke Johnson | What we learned, what is trending and final thoughts from the Saints' 27-24 win
-Great game by Brees, Kamara, and Callaway.
-Difference making play by Davenport who plays hard. -Good game by the OLine except the one bad play by Armstead's replacement. -Cook with a great catch. -Harris looking good at receiver. -The DLine battles and competes. -Lutz money. -The secondary looks lazy, soft, undisciplined and uninterested at times. -I absolutely hate seeing players wide open due to what is termed a communication failure. Way too much thinking going on. Guarding turf as receivers run free. I had much rather see players getting beat one on one competing and attacking versus playing soft and looking to others to make a play. -Just not a fan of D. Allen's style of defense, play calling, and lack of adjustments. -A. Glenn is not good or is being overruled by Allen. The secondary has more talent than it is showing. -The safety play is atrocious. |