Dome Roof Tearing Off

WhoDat · 08-29-2005, 03:26 PM

NO WAY SAINTS PLAY ON SEPTEMBER 18

Given the extensive damage to the roof of the Superdome, there's no way (based on our review of the photos) that the Saints will be able to host the Giants there on September 18.

Earlier on Monday, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told us that the league had not yet begun to formulate contingency plans for the Saints' 2005 home games. Based on the above, it might be time to get cracking on an alternative site.

An easy solution would be LSU's 90,000-seat stadium, but if the team were to play there the empty seats would likely outnumber the occupied ones by 2-to-1, if not more.

It'll be interesting to see what the league does, and how all of this shakes out. At a time when Saints owner Tom Benson is looking to possibly move the team out of New Orleans, the mess created by Katrina and the potential clusterfudge relating to the repair of the dome could be enough to drive the team from Hurricane Alley to Earthquake Land.

Typical media sensationalism. This kind of crap pisses me off. The Dome isn't even all that badly torn up. The protective outter covering tore off and that is what lead to water seeping in and tiles being blown off. However, the ONLY damage is to the roof, b/c everything else inside is concrete, metal, or plastic. Yes, there is damage - probably a few million dollars worth of damage. And given the destruction in the City, the Saints very well may not be able to play in the Dome on 9/18.

All that said, the sensationalism pisses me off. The media is acting like the Dome is ruined and will have to be torn down. No way in hell. Likewise, suggesting that this might be what makes Benson move to the West Coast is just ignorant. He can't, b/c the league won't let him. L.A. and San Antonio don't have stadiums for him, and if he fled the City after a disaster like this he would be so crucified in the press he'd have to sell the team. Just stupidity at work - and it pisses me off.

BrooksMustGo · 08-29-2005, 03:46 PM

It might be a good idea to think about replacing the dome with a new facility that will double as an athletic venue/storm shelter. The city could use all the federal disaster money to build an appropriate place. Even though, if this were done, I don't think Benson and the Saints should get to design it.

By this I mean, a facilty that could be self supporting in terms of power and space so that it could be used as a shelter and then a staging area for folks doing clean-up for storms in the greater NO area.

Just a thought, then everyone is happy.

TheDeuce · 08-29-2005, 03:54 PM

The thing that I have heard that makes me think that the Saints won't be playing their first home game in the Superdome is that CNN has been reporting that New Orleans will be without power for a month or more. ANyways, it's hard to even think about football in New Orleans with all of this stuff going on. I'm praying for all of the residents there and hope that everybody is safe.

WhoDat · 08-29-2005, 04:01 PM

It might be a good idea to think about replacing the dome with a new facility that will double as an athletic venue/storm shelter. The city could use all the federal disaster money to build an appropriate place. Even though, if this were done, I don't think Benson and the Saints should get to design it.

Not a bad idea.

Sorry to be the insensitive one for a second (I've spent half the day with tears in my eyes from 1000 miles away, so I'm not an a$$, but....) now would be a great time to do this. The State could get federal money and publicly ask the league for support, which it couldn't possibly deny. The State could ask Benson publically too, which he couldn't deny. What did they have to begin with? $180 million? Add $40 million from Benson and $50 from the League - you're getting darn close. Problem is, Benson wants an open-air stadium full of suites, and I don't think that will quite work as a shelter.

TylerDurden · 08-29-2005, 04:07 PM

Benson's a tool.

Euphoria · 08-29-2005, 04:08 PM

They can still play on the field!!! The dome appears to be missing a few tiles on top... its still playable. LET THEM PLAY, LET THEM PLAY. I think we ought to consider rebuilding the dome and specifically design it to withstand up to a nuke.

What great timing though...

saintz08 · 08-29-2005, 05:07 PM

Superdome Breach

http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?f=0...d7d322b5d5&rf=

saintz08 · 08-29-2005, 07:26 PM

NEW ORLEANS -- Hurricane Katrina ripped two holes in the curved roof of the Louisiana Superdome, letting in rain as thousands of storm refugees huddled inside Monday.

Superdome and government emergency officials stressed that they did not expect the huge roof to fail because of the relatively small breaches, each about 15 to 20 feet long and 4 to 5 feet wide.

The holes were in an area of vents some 19 stories above the arena floor.

"We think the wind somehow got into the vents and got between the roof's [waterproof] membrane and the aluminum ceiling tiles," said Doug Thornton, regional manager of the company that manages the huge arena.

Refugees sitting below the tears were moved across the arena and away from any falling debris, Thornton said.

"I could have stayed at home and watched my roof blow off," said one of the refugees, Harald Johnson, 43. "Instead, I came down here and watched the Superdome roof blow off. It's no big deal; getting wet is not like dying."

The dome was filled with the sound of metal rattling, which Thornton said was produced by the metal ceiling tiles.

In addition to the two holes, water was leaking in through many other areas, including elevators and stairwells, as the wind forced water in through any small opening. Across Poydras Street, numerous shattered windows were visible on high-rise office buildings.

Glenn Menard, general manager of the Superdome, said that although only the two holes were visible from the interior, more damage was possible.

More info .....http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2145743

08-29-2005, 03:26 PM	#11
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	NO WAY SAINTS PLAY ON SEPTEMBER 18 Given the extensive damage to the roof of the Superdome, there's no way (based on our review of the photos) that the Saints will be able to host the Giants there on September 18. Earlier on Monday, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told us that the league had not yet begun to formulate contingency plans for the Saints' 2005 home games. Based on the above, it might be time to get cracking on an alternative site. An easy solution would be LSU's 90,000-seat stadium, but if the team were to play there the empty seats would likely outnumber the occupied ones by 2-to-1, if not more. It'll be interesting to see what the league does, and how all of this shakes out. At a time when Saints owner Tom Benson is looking to possibly move the team out of New Orleans, the mess created by Katrina and the potential clusterfudge relating to the repair of the dome could be enough to drive the team from Hurricane Alley to Earthquake Land. Typical media sensationalism. This kind of crap pisses me off. The Dome isn't even all that badly torn up. The protective outter covering tore off and that is what lead to water seeping in and tiles being blown off. However, the ONLY damage is to the roof, b/c everything else inside is concrete, metal, or plastic. Yes, there is damage - probably a few million dollars worth of damage. And given the destruction in the City, the Saints very well may not be able to play in the Dome on 9/18. All that said, the sensationalism pisses me off. The media is acting like the Dome is ruined and will have to be torn down. No way in hell. Likewise, suggesting that this might be what makes Benson move to the West Coast is just ignorant. He can't, b/c the league won't let him. L.A. and San Antonio don't have stadiums for him, and if he fled the City after a disaster like this he would be so crucified in the press he'd have to sell the team. Just stupidity at work - and it pisses me off.
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08-29-2005, 03:54 PM	#13
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	The thing that I have heard that makes me think that the Saints won't be playing their first home game in the Superdome is that CNN has been reporting that New Orleans will be without power for a month or more. ANyways, it's hard to even think about football in New Orleans with all of this stuff going on. I'm praying for all of the residents there and hope that everybody is safe.
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08-29-2005, 04:01 PM	#14
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	It might be a good idea to think about replacing the dome with a new facility that will double as an athletic venue/storm shelter. The city could use all the federal disaster money to build an appropriate place. Even though, if this were done, I don't think Benson and the Saints should get to design it. Not a bad idea. Sorry to be the insensitive one for a second (I've spent half the day with tears in my eyes from 1000 miles away, so I'm not an a$$, but....) now would be a great time to do this. The State could get federal money and publicly ask the league for support, which it couldn't possibly deny. The State could ask Benson publically too, which he couldn't deny. What did they have to begin with? $180 million? Add $40 million from Benson and $50 from the League - you're getting darn close. Problem is, Benson wants an open-air stadium full of suites, and I don't think that will quite work as a shelter.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

08-29-2005, 04:07 PM	#15
TylerDurden Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2	Benson's a tool.
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saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Superdome Breach http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?f=0...d7d322b5d5&rf=
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08-29-2005, 03:46 PM	#12
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	It might be a good idea to think about replacing the dome with a new facility that will double as an athletic venue/storm shelter. The city could use all the federal disaster money to build an appropriate place. Even though, if this were done, I don't think Benson and the Saints should get to design it. By this I mean, a facilty that could be self supporting in terms of power and space so that it could be used as a shelter and then a staging area for folks doing clean-up for storms in the greater NO area. Just a thought, then everyone is happy.

08-29-2005, 04:08 PM	#16
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	They can still play on the field!!! The dome appears to be missing a few tiles on top... its still playable. LET THEM PLAY, LET THEM PLAY. I think we ought to consider rebuilding the dome and specifically design it to withstand up to a nuke. What great timing though...

08-29-2005, 07:26 PM	#18
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	NEW ORLEANS -- Hurricane Katrina ripped two holes in the curved roof of the Louisiana Superdome, letting in rain as thousands of storm refugees huddled inside Monday. Superdome and government emergency officials stressed that they did not expect the huge roof to fail because of the relatively small breaches, each about 15 to 20 feet long and 4 to 5 feet wide. The holes were in an area of vents some 19 stories above the arena floor. "We think the wind somehow got into the vents and got between the roof's [waterproof] membrane and the aluminum ceiling tiles," said Doug Thornton, regional manager of the company that manages the huge arena. Refugees sitting below the tears were moved across the arena and away from any falling debris, Thornton said. "I could have stayed at home and watched my roof blow off," said one of the refugees, Harald Johnson, 43. "Instead, I came down here and watched the Superdome roof blow off. It's no big deal; getting wet is not like dying." The dome was filled with the sound of metal rattling, which Thornton said was produced by the metal ceiling tiles. In addition to the two holes, water was leaking in through many other areas, including elevators and stairwells, as the wind forced water in through any small opening. Across Poydras Street, numerous shattered windows were visible on high-rise office buildings. Glenn Menard, general manager of the Superdome, said that although only the two holes were visible from the interior, more damage was possible. More info .....http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2145743
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