Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****
 

listening to Allen and commentators it seems he has complicated the defense. imho simplify and let the guys play instinctively. Haven't you noticed the guys looking at each other after a play and shrugging - like - wtf where were you or I thought you had him.

Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****
 

I agree. The coaching has been awlful. Just pointing out it doesn't have to be one or the other.

Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****
 

Annoying is an understatement! There are too many words to describe the shoulder tackles. It is :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:....

Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****
 

How many DCs are we going to go through only to see them leave and have success on another team?

Our issues... like tackling and not getting PIs are fundamental mistakes made by players on the field. What specifically do you think Allen is doing wrong?

Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****
 

If it’s too complicated then isn’t it’s the coaches job to simplify things? Over complicated is a word that has been thrown around fairly consistently over DA’s tenure as DC. This is coming from players and fans so there must be some truth to it. Back when we didn’t have many talented players in the secondary they were forced to complicate things because our players skill sets were inferior to most other teams offenses. We had to rely on scheme more than physical ability. We now have above average talent all around our secondary. Is there any need for over complication anymore? More about matchups and less about trickery?
Or am I off base here?

Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****
 

B&G,

See post #10, last sentence.


It keeps happening year after year with this defense. No matter what players we have during that season, the results are the same. At some point the buck stops at Dennis Allen. From bad schemes to not adjusting during the game, we’ve said all of the same things before about him. Pro bowl players come here and become mediocre, 1st round draft picks regress. At this point if he hasn’t even benched anybody to at least set an example, Marcus should be benched.

Lattimore - regression since rookie season.
Williams - see above- has been in DA system 4 years now but still lost in coverage.
MJ - avg player in NO, a start with the Eagles, immediate regression in NO.
PRob - see above
Jenoris - good corner but he's regressed.
Eli - initially he was improvement after leaving NY but regressed in NO.
Ken trash can Crawley - played out of his mind in 2017, only to regress.
PJ Williams - he's a Six Flags roller coast ride.
Devante Harris - TERRIBLE NFL player, but Allen thought he could start :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Do you think Bellichick, Tomlin, Harbaugh or Andy Reid would allow poor, repetitive behavior from player(s) this long?

SIMPLIFY the defense & coach these guys up.

Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****
 

Is your solution that these players who are all vets need a more simplified defense because they don't understand?
Or
Are you saying all of these players should be benched and they just aren't pulling the trigger?

I guess we aren't taking into account the improvements Allen has made with this team...

Every year since Allen has taken over he has improved the D.
2015- ranked 31st
2016- 27th
2017- 17th
2018- 14th
2019- 11th
2020- so far 7th

Think about that we are ranked 7th right now, but 24th in points... you know why? Players giving penalty yards at a crazy rate (worst in the league). Is Allen coaching players to give up penalty yards?


My point of view- our locker-room is cancerous and that is allowing sloppy undisciplined play to occur because players aren't taking lead and captains in the locker-room aren't holding each other accountable.

Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****
 

When were you able to spend time in the locker room to come to that conclusion? Wouldn't that violate COVID protocols?

:confused:

Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****
 

7th? LOL .. how can Dennis Allen continuously put our secondary in zone coverage get ranked that high? Ultimately though, it is a results-based league. If the defense cannot improve on the back end, changes need to be considered.

The problem is we don't have very much turnover (J. Jenkins & Baun being the only 2 new players; M. Jenkins played under DA while here the first time) and yet we constantly have guys out of place or making the wrong reads. These guys should know this system by heart and yet they look like they are playing a brand new system every game. SIMPLIFY THE DEFENSE. Get guys on the same page.

That is completely on coaching. If you don't see this, not sure what to tell you.

Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****
 

Is it Dennis Allen or Aaron Glenn... or both.

Swapping the d-coordinator mid season is troublesome, since the defense isn't bottom of the league.

Maybe a new secondary coach could be a wake-up call even if Glenn's not the reason for the bad secondary performance.