I rarely complain about anything other than bad calls while watching a Saints game. The one time that I do is when Payton inserts Taysom and especially when Brees is on a roll. He's certainly not putting Taysom in there for his arm. He has still only attempted 16 passes in his regular season career and only three this season. Taysom never enters the game to run a base play. It invariably involves some sort of gimmick. He comes in more as a wildcat than a QB. He does give us a better chance on a running play, but give me Brees with a yard or less any day.

But back to Brees. Can you explain why some people complain so much about Brees and his inadequacies if he's our best and only option to winning games at QB? Is it only because he isn't everything he used to be? That just brings me back to my age old argument of what good does it do to complain over something that is out of your control, or even out of the control of the team? Do you think it makes the complainer feel better in some sort of way? It seems to me that it would have the opposite effect.

Puzzling.

It’s not puzzling at all. You’re def’n of “complaining” is different than mine, I don’t speak for anybody else, but I just state my case as my eyes see it, and if the stats back it up, then I point out that also. Being critical is not complaining, to me, bc I don’t have an 19-0 expectation or the opposite 0-19 hope. Nor am I a “homer” to anybody, including DB#9. I want him to succeed bc I want the Saints to succeed. Also, I see every player as a cost benefit analysis in that “how much does this guy cost vs how productive is he” is the question I ask. And none of that is compared to what a player did for our organization more than a decade ago. And it’s that simple. Your personality seems to be very <fingers in ears> “LA LA LA LA LA LA, <screaming> I CANT HEAR YOU” while ppl like me state “oof, that was a bad pass”. Not everybody is like you though, and it’s not unreasonable for ppl to want DB#9 to succeed while simultaneously pointing out his deficiencies as he ages.

My friend, feel free to blindly follow only the positive, you do you, lol. Nothing wrong with fans like you, God bless you for your rampant and blind fanaticism. But, almost everybody here is a Saints fan. We’re just all different ppl, differing personalities, differing expectations and hopes for the Saints. And we express our feelings in varying different ways. I’ve never understood the “we’re all in now” or “one last hurrah” mantra that has been propagated throughout all of Saintsdom. It bothers me tremendously. What happened to the last decade? Why were we not all in for those years? Is DB#9 the only Saint playing that deserves a SB?

Oh, Brees isn’t our only option. There are two other QB’s on the roster. One we know can throw for 5,000 yards right now also, and the other who seems to have been “chosen” as the heir apparent. I’ve ALWAYS believed, still do, that may the player who best runs the entire playbook be named the starter. But, that’s not my call, I’m just a fan..., one who has eyes though and is not blind to the current circumstances.

Is there a limit to being critical or does it require sharing the criticism repeatedly? This is a general question. Not necessarily directed your way. Some repeat certain criticisms at every opportunity ad nauseum. To me personally it grows from a simple statement of opinion into a chorus of fingernails on a chalkboard after a period of time. That's when it turns into complaining to me.

And, no. Brees isn't our only option. Neither is Kamara. But both are the only options that make us the most competitive at their positions. That's what I meant by "best and only".

And which QB is it that can throw for 5000 yards right now in Sean Payton's currently designed offense? We have two that have thrown for 5000 in a year, but only one that has proved he can do it using Payton's scheme.

If you don’t like any commentary, feel free to put your opinion in also, should you feel inclined to do so. Trust me, I almost walked away from here after viewing the commentary very early on, but I’m glad I stayed. I’ve learned a lot from our peers here, including you. That being said, A 5,000 yard passer is a 5,000 yard passer is a 5,000 yard passer. Using your logic, no passer other than DB#9 can pass for 5,000 yards in a CSP offense..., bc they have never done so, lol. That makes no sense, at all. Nobody knows what Winston can do. Heck, we really don’t know what Taysom can do. When Coach says it’s time to move away from DB#9, I’m ready. Actually I’m anxious and eager. I get excited for the future, I’m bored of the recent past. Regardless, it’s not my call to make. I give praise also, where I feel praise is due, and I defend players when it’s not in the best of interest of my “reputation” lol around here. But, I make my cases, and move on. If someone disproves my views to my satisfaction then I change my view. I’m not perfect, and don’t expect my statements to be without faults. They are just opinions amigo. The overwhelmingly majority of posts here are nothing but op/ed. Contrary to what you believe of yourself, I view your opinions as nothing more than that..., opinions. No greater, no more less than anybody else.

Cheers my friend, grab a glass of a good red wine, relax. It’s a beautiful world and life, even with all the harrumph’ing around, lol, and I’ve done my share of that. But..., I’ll do it with a smile on my face and sans anger in my heart.

Take care.

Excuse me? But when have I ever declared my opinions as more than opinions?

As for anger, I am as chill about life as anyone. Anger is a waste of emotions. I can't tell you how many times I have just suggested people chill out here over the past decade or more.

Good luck with that.



Again, good luck with that. I’m not the one trying to figure out why there is critical speech around here, you are.

Perhaps I just need to leave.

If you don’t like any commentary, feel free to put your opinion in also, should you feel inclined to do so. Trust me, I almost walked away from here after viewing the commentary very early on, but I’m glad I stayed. I’ve learned a lot from our peers here, including you. That being said, A 5,000 yard passer is a 5,000 yard passer is a 5,000 yard passer. Using your logic, no passer other than DB#9 can pass for 5,000 yards in a CSP offense..., bc they have never done so, lol. That makes no sense, at all. Nobody knows what Winston can do. Heck, we really don’t know what Taysom can do. When Coach says it’s time to move away from DB#9, I’m ready. Actually I’m anxious and eager. I get excited for the future, I’m bored of the recent past. Regardless, it’s not my call to make. I give praise also, where I feel praise is due, and I defend players when it’s not in the best of interest of my “reputation” lol around here. But, I make my cases, and move on. If someone disproves my views to my satisfaction then I change my view. I’m not perfect, and don’t expect my statements to be without faults. They are just opinions amigo. The overwhelmingly majority of posts here are nothing but op/ed. Contrary to what you believe of yourself, I view your opinions as nothing more than that..., opinions. No greater, no more less than anybody else.

Cheers my friend, grab a glass of a good red wine, relax. It’s a beautiful world and life, even with all the harrumph’ing around, lol, and I’ve done my share of that. But..., I’ll do it with a smile on my face and sans anger in my heart.

Take care.

You are bored when we are a few games away from winning the division for the forth consecutive time and make the playoffs every year? How long have you been a Saints fan? It really doesn’t get much better than this. Enjoy it while you can because it’s highly likely we don’t see another Qb that can consistently keep you in the hunt in spite of ****ty defensive play. We may never find another one. Enjoy it for what it is while you can.

You are bored when we are a few games away from winning the division for the forth consecutive time and make the playoffs every year? How long have you been a Saints fan? It really doesn’t get much better than this. Enjoy it while you can because it’s highly likely we don’t see another Qb that can consistently keep you in the hunt in spite of ****ty defensive play. We may never find another one. Enjoy it for what it is while you can.