Question about the GW FG in OT

44Champs · 11-02-2020, 12:49 PM

Why did SP decide to kick the FG so early? Didnt make sense to me.

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dizzle88 · 11-02-2020, 12:53 PM

I'm guessing he had enough trust in Lutz to make it.

Whilst it does make sense to wind the clock down, what would happen if there's a problem with the exchange between McCoy and Brees and its fumbled. Then everyone would be mad that Payton didn't take the opportunity to kick it.

Each perspective has its ups and downs so I'm guessing Payton just trusted Lutz enough to send him out there.

blackangold · 11-02-2020, 02:18 PM

It doesn't make much sense...

Logically, you either take a knee or hand it off with ball security being the goal to run the clock down.

Had Lutz missed your giving the Bears 1:30 to go about 40 yds.

Luckily we have a good kicker so it didn't matter.

vpheughan · 11-02-2020, 02:23 PM

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Rugby Saint II · 11-02-2020, 05:21 PM

It was the right move for Payton. Lutz made the kick and we won.

WW_Who_Dat · 11-02-2020, 06:21 PM

Kick the field goal ... its overtime once the ball goes thru the uprights game over ... You trust your kicker End of Story ... You do what Coach and the Saints did.

hitta · 11-02-2020, 06:46 PM

I think SP was playing the mind game for later in the season. I bet even Lutz was questioning why we didn't run the clock down. Payton though was like "I have 100% faith in you, so I don't give a ****.. go out and win the game". I think Payton was playing to Lutz psyche and trying to instill him with some confidence... or perhaps I'm bat**** crazy. Remember, Lutz missed a kick earlier in the game from a short range. Payton may have been trying to give him a boost. It's easy for kickers to lose their **** after a miss.

Cruize · 11-03-2020, 08:06 AM

Best kicker in the game. End it.

jeanpierre · 11-03-2020, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

It doesn't make much sense...

Logically, you either take a knee or hand it off with ball security being the goal to run the clock down.

Had Lutz missed your giving the Bears 1:30 to go about 40 yds.

Luckily we have a good kicker so it didn't matter.

Okay, don't trust Kamara enough to punch it in or even hang on to the ball?

Fine, then have Brees take a knee a couple of times, leave less than 0:20 on the clock in the event of a mishap - like the one earlier in the game...

Some are trying to give Payton credit for thinking ahead, building confidence in players - Don't...

The sampling is there in the last few tight games and in the tournament where Sean fumbles mentally in the crucial moments, under pressure...

AsylumGuido · 11-03-2020, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Okay, don't trust Kamara enough to punch it in or even hang on to the ball?

Fine, then have Brees take a knee a couple of times, leave less than 0:20 on the clock in the event of a mishap - like the one earlier in the game...

Some are trying to give Payton credit for thinking ahead, building confidence in players - Don't...

The sampling is there in the last few tight games and in the tournament where Sean fumbles mentally in the crucial moments, under pressure...

Each kneel down backs the ball up two yards. Just saying. Why make the kick intentionally longer?

11-02-2020, 12:49 PM	#1
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11-02-2020, 12:53 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Question about the GW FG in OT I'm guessing he had enough trust in Lutz to make it. Whilst it does make sense to wind the clock down, what would happen if there's a problem with the exchange between McCoy and Brees and its fumbled. Then everyone would be mad that Payton didn't take the opportunity to kick it. Each perspective has its ups and downs so I'm guessing Payton just trusted Lutz enough to send him out there. saintsfan1976, ChrisXVI, gosaints1 and 2 others like this.

11-02-2020, 02:18 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Question about the GW FG in OT It doesn't make much sense... Logically, you either take a knee or hand it off with ball security being the goal to run the clock down. Had Lutz missed your giving the Bears 1:30 to go about 40 yds. Luckily we have a good kicker so it didn't matter. jeanpierre and Thirty3 like this.

11-02-2020, 02:23 PM	#4
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,522	Re: Question about the GW FG in OT WHAT IF............A small private plane crashed into the stands? The 40-14 trouncing by the Steelers on December 19, 1976 is likely the best loss Baltimore Colts fans ever experienced — even for an AFC divisional title game. That’s because so many fans left early, there were few people in the stands when a plane that had buzzed the stadium multiple times crashed into the upper deck about 10-minutes after the game ended. Kick 'em when they're up Kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up Kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up Kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up Kick 'em all around
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WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Question about the GW FG in OT Kick the field goal ... its overtime once the ball goes thru the uprights game over ... You trust your kicker End of Story ... You do what Coach and the Saints did.

11-02-2020, 06:46 PM	#7
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Question about the GW FG in OT I think SP was playing the mind game for later in the season. I bet even Lutz was questioning why we didn't run the clock down. Payton though was like "I have 100% faith in you, so I don't give a **.. go out and win the game". I think Payton was playing to Lutz psyche and trying to instill him with some confidence... or perhaps I'm bat crazy. Remember, Lutz missed a kick earlier in the game from a short range. Payton may have been trying to give him a boost. It's easy for kickers to lose their ** after a miss.
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11-03-2020, 08:06 AM	#8
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11-03-2020, 08:21 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Question about the GW FG in OT Originally Posted by blackangold It doesn't make much sense... Logically, you either take a knee or hand it off with ball security being the goal to run the clock down. Had Lutz missed your giving the Bears 1:30 to go about 40 yds. Luckily we have a good kicker so it didn't matter. Okay, don't trust Kamara enough to punch it in or even hang on to the ball? Fine, then have Brees take a knee a couple of times, leave less than 0:20 on the clock in the event of a mishap - like the one earlier in the game... Some are trying to give Payton credit for thinking ahead, building confidence in players - Don't... The sampling is there in the last few tight games and in the tournament where Sean fumbles mentally in the crucial moments, under pressure...

11-03-2020, 08:36 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Question about the GW FG in OT Originally Posted by jeanpierre Okay, don't trust Kamara enough to punch it in or even hang on to the ball? Fine, then have Brees take a knee a couple of times, leave less than 0:20 on the clock in the event of a mishap - like the one earlier in the game... Some are trying to give Payton credit for thinking ahead, building confidence in players - Don't... The sampling is there in the last few tight games and in the tournament where Sean fumbles mentally in the crucial moments, under pressure... Each kneel down backs the ball up two yards. Just saying. Why make the kick intentionally longer?