Saints Defense (what did I just watch)

rezburna · 11-09-2020, 09:16 AM

The offense did what they were supposed to do. They went down and scored following three and outs. That put pressure on the Bucs offensively to try EVs find a spark. Our offense finally took the pressure off the defense and the defense flourished. I saw a lot of 2-man under as well as the usual Cover 1. Jenkins looked great last night, partly because Gronk can’t outrun him, but also coming up to make tackles and backs out of the backfield. Hopefully they keep it going.

cmike · 11-09-2020, 09:21 AM

As of right now Davenport is the engine that runs the Dline. We’ve been saying for the last few years, if he stays healthy, look out. Marcus pushes whom ever is blocking him in the QB’s lap. This allows for Trey and guys like big O to feast. Cam does the same thing from the other side, but when their names don’t show up in the stat lines it’s interpreted as not contributing. The guys on our edge are ballin.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-09-2020, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Someone help me understand last nights game please... Defensive secondary is the area I’m least able to diagnose.

Did our defense ‘get good’?
Did Tampa play that bad? 8 yards rushing and less than 220 total.
Did Spag’s let the defense call their own game?

All three?

FFS, that secondary went from sh1t-show to prime time in 7 days.

A Tom Brady offense with less than 20 minutes of total possession!

A definite standing slow clap for the defense but WTF do I expect next week ?

Deuce Windham has a film study of some defensive busts by the secondary:

Saints Coverage Woes 1st half of 2020 \| Who is to blame? \| A couple examples - YouTube

The bottom line is that while the scheme has been sound and that on any given play most defenders did their job, the busts have been caused by one guy in the defensive backfield making a mistake.

Last night the secondary did not make those mistakes. Limit the mistakes and this is what can happen.

SFIAH

TheOak · 11-09-2020, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

The bottom line is that while the scheme has been sound and that on any given play most defenders did their job, the busts have been caused by one guy in the defensive backfield making a mistake.

Last night the secondary did not make those mistakes. Limit the mistakes and this is what can happen.

SFIAH

Precisely, NFL QBs dont pick apart good coverage they find and exploit the one guy 2 feet too far. When you aren't playing your natural style a single thought can cost you two feet.

mapcow · 11-09-2020, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Someone help me understand last nights game please... Defensive secondary is the area I’m least able to diagnose.

Did our defense ‘get good’?
Did Tampa play that bad? 8 yards rushing and less than 220 total.
Did Spag’s let the defense call their own game?

All three?

FFS, that secondary went from sh1t-show to prime time in 7 days.

A Tom Brady offense with less than 20 minutes of total possession!

A definite standing slow clap for the defense but WTF do I expect next week ?

Tampa Bay Played That BAD.....

The Dude · 11-09-2020, 10:46 AM

Our secondary usually steps up for Tampa, especially Lattimore. I saw Brady reading his play card after the second interception tell himself “I don’t know what they are doing” referring to our defense.

dizzle88 · 11-09-2020, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Our secondary usually steps up for Tampa, especially Lattimore. I saw Brady reading his play card after the second interception tell himself “I don’t know what they are doing” referring to our defense.

One of the announcers mentioned our D said they were working on disguising coverages all week.

blackangold · 11-09-2020, 12:04 PM

Keep in mind....

WE RANKED 7th in total yards (before playing tampa).

There was an illusion that this was a bad D, but the reality is that we gave up to many free plays on penalty yards.

Control the penalties on D and the true colors show.

Audiotom · 11-09-2020, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Keep in mind....

WE RANKED 7th in total yards (before playing tampa).

There was an illusion that this was a bad D, but the reality is that we gave up to many free plays on penalty yards.

Control the penalties on D and the true colors show.

But teams offensive weapon against the Saints is to throw deep
Not even accurately
And get the PI

Half of Brady’s offense in the first game was this

cmike · 11-09-2020, 01:26 PM

If I’m reading correctly, as of right now our D is ranked 3rd in yards given up per game.

11-09-2020, 09:16 AM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Saints Defense (what did I just watch) The offense did what they were supposed to do. They went down and scored following three and outs. That put pressure on the Bucs offensively to try EVs find a spark. Our offense finally took the pressure off the defense and the defense flourished. I saw a lot of 2-man under as well as the usual Cover 1. Jenkins looked great last night, partly because Gronk can’t outrun him, but also coming up to make tackles and backs out of the backfield. Hopefully they keep it going. TheOak likes this.

11-09-2020, 09:21 AM	#2
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Saints Defense (what did I just watch) As of right now Davenport is the engine that runs the Dline. We’ve been saying for the last few years, if he stays healthy, look out. Marcus pushes whom ever is blocking him in the QB’s lap. This allows for Trey and guys like big O to feast. Cam does the same thing from the other side, but when their names don’t show up in the stat lines it’s interpreted as not contributing. The guys on our edge are ballin. SaintFanInATLHELL, Rsanders24, SmashMouth and 3 others like this.

11-09-2020, 04:24 PM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Saints Defense (what did I just watch) Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL The bottom line is that while the scheme has been sound and that on any given play most defenders did their job, the busts have been caused by one guy in the defensive backfield making a mistake. Last night the secondary did not make those mistakes. Limit the mistakes and this is what can happen. SFIAH Precisely, NFL QBs dont pick apart good coverage they find and exploit the one guy 2 feet too far. When you aren't playing your natural style a single thought can cost you two feet.

11-09-2020, 10:35 AM	#5
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Saints Defense (what did I just watch) Originally Posted by TheOak Someone help me understand last nights game please... Defensive secondary is the area I’m least able to diagnose. Did our defense ‘get good’? Did Tampa play that bad? 8 yards rushing and less than 220 total. Did Spag’s let the defense call their own game? All three? FFS, that secondary went from sh1t-show to prime time in 7 days. A Tom Brady offense with less than 20 minutes of total possession! A definite standing slow clap for the defense but WTF do I expect next week ? Tampa Bay Played That BAD.....
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11-09-2020, 10:46 AM	#6
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Saints Defense (what did I just watch) Our secondary usually steps up for Tampa, especially Lattimore. I saw Brady reading his play card after the second interception tell himself “I don’t know what they are doing” referring to our defense.
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11-09-2020, 10:54 AM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Saints Defense (what did I just watch) Originally Posted by The Dude Our secondary usually steps up for Tampa, especially Lattimore. I saw Brady reading his play card after the second interception tell himself “I don’t know what they are doing” referring to our defense. One of the announcers mentioned our D said they were working on disguising coverages all week.

11-09-2020, 12:04 PM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints Defense (what did I just watch) Keep in mind.... WE RANKED 7th in total yards (before playing tampa). There was an illusion that this was a bad D, but the reality is that we gave up to many free plays on penalty yards. Control the penalties on D and the true colors show. Rsanders24, leilung, SaintFanQ and 2 others like this.

11-09-2020, 09:22 PM	#9
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Defense (what did I just watch) Originally Posted by blackangold Keep in mind.... WE RANKED 7th in total yards (before playing tampa). There was an illusion that this was a bad D, but the reality is that we gave up to many free plays on penalty yards. Control the penalties on D and the true colors show. But teams offensive weapon against the Saints is to throw deep Not even accurately And get the PI Half of Brady’s offense in the first game was this

11-09-2020, 01:26 PM	#10
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Saints Defense (what did I just watch) If I’m reading correctly, as of right now our D is ranked 3rd in yards given up per game.