Taysom or Jameis?

K Major · 11-18-2020, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Hill. But, let him be a QB first. Let him run in certain situations. Let him throw the 5 to 15 yard passes Drew throws. Let him roll out with simple reads. Let him run if the pocket breaks down. Hill is a bad***. But, that has been in limited snaps. He will not last a full game running first and trying to run over people. Instruct him to slide or run our of bounds after achieving first downs. He can be a better version of the Ravens Jackson. I truly believe that.

I have never been a Winston fan. Never will be. I hope he proves me wrong as I believe Payton will choose him.

Payton will "choose" Winston because he is the logical choice. Doesn't matter if you are fan of his or not.

Taysom is not a NFL QB. He's a gimmick player. Every time we ask him to pass, he looks like a high school QB trying to make his first start. His footwork is terrible, he's inaccurate, he hesitates, ZERO pocket awareness and he can't read the field. Once again on Sunday, he was given a pass and missed a wide open Cook over the middle.

Winston is the better QB, though he's very flawed himself.

jnormand · 11-18-2020, 10:10 PM

I just wanna see Taysom try at least a half at QB. Let him try to be a QB. At least try!!!

AsylumGuido · 11-18-2020, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I just wanna see Taysom try at least a half at QB. Let him try to be a QB. At least try!!!

I’m sure he tries in practice. I seriously doubt Payton cares about you getting your satisfaction.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-18-2020, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I just wanna see Taysom try at least a half at QB. Let him try to be a QB. At least try!!!

Now is not the time for experiments. At 7-2 and in the thick of the race for the bye and homefield in the NFC, it's frankly foolish to see if Taysom is a full time NFL caliber QB when we have a guy who has 5 years experience full time at the position. It's completely non-sensical.

I think folks got the notion that since Taysom got paid, the Saints are somehow obligated to see if he can fit as a full time QB. Taysom got paid to be Taysom. And he's been doing a fine job of that. The thoughts that somehow he's going to wake up and be an All-Pro QB is just magical thinking to me.

We need to win these next 4 games. As long as Winston values the ball and just throws it away when nothing is there, he gives the Saints the best chance of doing that.

SFIAH

jnormand · 11-19-2020, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Now is not the time for experiments. At 7-2 and in the thick of the race for the bye and homefield in the NFC, it's frankly foolish to see if Taysom is a full time NFL caliber QB when we have a guy who has 5 years experience full time at the position. It's completely non-sensical.

I think folks got the notion that since Taysom got paid, the Saints are somehow obligated to see if he can fit as a full time QB. Taysom got paid to be Taysom. And he's been doing a fine job of that. The thoughts that somehow he's going to wake up and be an All-Pro QB is just magical thinking to me.

We need to win these next 4 games. As long as Winston values the ball and just throws it away when nothing is there, he gives the Saints the best chance of doing that.

SFIAH

I understand what you're saying. It makes sense.

But I still want to see him play QB.

Has nothing to do with his contract. Or his college play. The kid plays hard. He does everything he asked to and more. He runs like a maniac. He's intense. He's exciting to watch and always looks like he's having as blast.

I know it sounds stupid or illogical. But I just feel like he's earned a shot to play. And I'd like to see what the Saints have in him. I want to see him prove people wrong and show he's more than a gadget guy. Follow his dreams. Idk.

I'm just getting older. Maybe I just wanna see a guy do well that has worked so hard and earned it.

Lol! If it doesn't work out, put the dork in.

I know it doesn't make sense. And I can't argue with anyone about it. He's just one of my favorite guys to watch. Every time he's in there I get excited to see what he's gonna do.

stickman · 11-19-2020, 07:33 AM

Here is what I am hoping for. When Brees was out last year, it seemed the entire team stepped up their game and played that much harder knowing their main guy was out. I hope to see that again now. Teddy was just asked to manage the game and he did. His stats weren't flashy, they were just solid. That is all I am hoping for.

And I think it will be Winston. If Hill was really your #2 QB, he would have started the second half against the 49ers.

AsylumGuido · 11-19-2020, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Now is not the time for experiments. At 7-2 and in the thick of the race for the bye and homefield in the NFC, it's frankly foolish to see if Taysom is a full time NFL caliber QB when we have a guy who has 5 years experience full time at the position. It's completely non-sensical.

I think folks got the notion that since Taysom got paid, the Saints are somehow obligated to see if he can fit as a full time QB. Taysom got paid to be Taysom. And he's been doing a fine job of that. The thoughts that somehow he's going to wake up and be an All-Pro QB is just magical thinking to me.

We need to win these next 4 games. As long as Winston values the ball and just throws it away when nothing is there, he gives the Saints the best chance of doing that.

SFIAH

This!

If we lose any of the four it could cost a a shot at the #1 seed and the lone bye week. Winston gives us the best shot in the very short term. Brees gives a better shot over either other option. We need him back as soon as he can take the field at all.

The Dude · 11-19-2020, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I just wanna see Taysom try at least a half at QB. Let him try to be a QB. At least try!!!

If we were 2-6 absolutely but we are in the running for the 1 seed, not a good time for Qb tryouts. Like him or not Winston has been there and done that. He also has a lot of experience against Atlanta which can’t hurt.

Audiotom · 11-19-2020, 01:03 PM

Jameis

Even though he didn’t show his mobility
And didn’t go through his reads fast enough or get the ball out early enough
(Something Drew is a master at)
I think he will blossom into The Saints air apparent

THe Falcons game will be won between the tackles
If Atlanta gets the push on the guards it will be a very long day

dizzle88 · 11-19-2020, 01:45 PM

Expect the Failclowns to send plenty of pressure at Jameis on Sunday, thats why its so important that he understands this offense and gets the ball out quickly.

They will leave somebody uncovered trying to rattle him. Its up to Winston or not if he makes them pay.

11-18-2020, 07:51 PM	#21
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Taysom or Jameis? Originally Posted by Cruize Hill. But, let him be a QB first. Let him run in certain situations. Let him throw the 5 to 15 yard passes Drew throws. Let him roll out with simple reads. Let him run if the pocket breaks down. Hill is a bad***. But, that has been in limited snaps. He will not last a full game running first and trying to run over people. Instruct him to slide or run our of bounds after achieving first downs. He can be a better version of the Ravens Jackson. I truly believe that. I have never been a Winston fan. Never will be. I hope he proves me wrong as I believe Payton will choose him. Payton will "choose" Winston because he is the logical choice. Doesn't matter if you are fan of his or not. Taysom is not a NFL QB. He's a gimmick player. Every time we ask him to pass, he looks like a high school QB trying to make his first start. His footwork is terrible, he's inaccurate, he hesitates, ZERO pocket awareness and he can't read the field. Once again on Sunday, he was given a pass and missed a wide open Cook over the middle. Winston is the better QB, though he's very flawed himself. SaintFanInATLHELL, Rsanders24, gosaints1 and 1 others like this.

11-18-2020, 10:10 PM	#22
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Taysom or Jameis? I just wanna see Taysom try at least a half at QB. Let him try to be a QB. At least try!!! jeanpierre and Thirty3 like this.

11-18-2020, 11:23 PM	#23
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Taysom or Jameis? Originally Posted by jnormand I just wanna see Taysom try at least a half at QB. Let him try to be a QB. At least try!!! I’m sure he tries in practice. I seriously doubt Payton cares about you getting your satisfaction. cmike likes this.

11-18-2020, 11:56 PM	#24
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Taysom or Jameis? Originally Posted by jnormand I just wanna see Taysom try at least a half at QB. Let him try to be a QB. At least try!!! Now is not the time for experiments. At 7-2 and in the thick of the race for the bye and homefield in the NFC, it's frankly foolish to see if Taysom is a full time NFL caliber QB when we have a guy who has 5 years experience full time at the position. It's completely non-sensical. I think folks got the notion that since Taysom got paid, the Saints are somehow obligated to see if he can fit as a full time QB. Taysom got paid to be Taysom. And he's been doing a fine job of that. The thoughts that somehow he's going to wake up and be an All-Pro QB is just magical thinking to me. We need to win these next 4 games. As long as Winston values the ball and just throws it away when nothing is there, he gives the Saints the best chance of doing that. SFIAH SmashMouth likes this.
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11-19-2020, 07:19 AM	#25
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Taysom or Jameis? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Now is not the time for experiments. At 7-2 and in the thick of the race for the bye and homefield in the NFC, it's frankly foolish to see if Taysom is a full time NFL caliber QB when we have a guy who has 5 years experience full time at the position. It's completely non-sensical. I think folks got the notion that since Taysom got paid, the Saints are somehow obligated to see if he can fit as a full time QB. Taysom got paid to be Taysom. And he's been doing a fine job of that. The thoughts that somehow he's going to wake up and be an All-Pro QB is just magical thinking to me. We need to win these next 4 games. As long as Winston values the ball and just throws it away when nothing is there, he gives the Saints the best chance of doing that. SFIAH I understand what you're saying. It makes sense. But I still want to see him play QB. Has nothing to do with his contract. Or his college play. The kid plays hard. He does everything he asked to and more. He runs like a maniac. He's intense. He's exciting to watch and always looks like he's having as blast. I know it sounds stupid or illogical. But I just feel like he's earned a shot to play. And I'd like to see what the Saints have in him. I want to see him prove people wrong and show he's more than a gadget guy. Follow his dreams. Idk. I'm just getting older. Maybe I just wanna see a guy do well that has worked so hard and earned it. Lol! If it doesn't work out, put the dork in. I know it doesn't make sense. And I can't argue with anyone about it. He's just one of my favorite guys to watch. Every time he's in there I get excited to see what he's gonna do. jeanpierre likes this.
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11-19-2020, 07:33 AM	#26
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,687	Re: Taysom or Jameis? Here is what I am hoping for. When Brees was out last year, it seemed the entire team stepped up their game and played that much harder knowing their main guy was out. I hope to see that again now. Teddy was just asked to manage the game and he did. His stats weren't flashy, they were just solid. That is all I am hoping for. And I think it will be Winston. If Hill was really your #2 QB, he would have started the second half against the 49ers.

11-19-2020, 08:51 AM	#27
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Taysom or Jameis? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Now is not the time for experiments. At 7-2 and in the thick of the race for the bye and homefield in the NFC, it's frankly foolish to see if Taysom is a full time NFL caliber QB when we have a guy who has 5 years experience full time at the position. It's completely non-sensical. I think folks got the notion that since Taysom got paid, the Saints are somehow obligated to see if he can fit as a full time QB. Taysom got paid to be Taysom. And he's been doing a fine job of that. The thoughts that somehow he's going to wake up and be an All-Pro QB is just magical thinking to me. We need to win these next 4 games. As long as Winston values the ball and just throws it away when nothing is there, he gives the Saints the best chance of doing that. SFIAH This! If we lose any of the four it could cost a a shot at the #1 seed and the lone bye week. Winston gives us the best shot in the very short term. Brees gives a better shot over either other option. We need him back as soon as he can take the field at all. WW_Who_Dat likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Taysom or Jameis? Originally Posted by jnormand I just wanna see Taysom try at least a half at QB. Let him try to be a QB. At least try!!! If we were 2-6 absolutely but we are in the running for the 1 seed, not a good time for Qb tryouts. Like him or not Winston has been there and done that. He also has a lot of experience against Atlanta which can’t hurt. SaintFanInATLHELL, AsylumGuido and cmike like this.
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11-19-2020, 01:03 PM	#29
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Taysom or Jameis? Jameis Even though he didn’t show his mobility And didn’t go through his reads fast enough or get the ball out early enough (Something Drew is a master at) I think he will blossom into The Saints air apparent THe Falcons game will be won between the tackles If Atlanta gets the push on the guards it will be a very long day

11-19-2020, 01:45 PM	#30
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Taysom or Jameis? Expect the Failclowns to send plenty of pressure at Jameis on Sunday, thats why its so important that he understands this offense and gets the ball out quickly. They will leave somebody uncovered trying to rattle him. Its up to Winston or not if he makes them pay.