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Cruize 11-19-2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 903975)
Payton will "choose" Winston because he is the logical choice. Doesn't matter if you are fan of his or not.

Taysom is not a NFL QB. He's a gimmick player. Every time we ask him to pass, he looks like a high school QB trying to make his first start. His footwork is terrible, he's inaccurate, he hesitates, ZERO pocket awareness and he can't read the field. Once again on Sunday, he was given a pass and missed a wide open Cook over the middle.

Winston is the better QB, though he's very flawed himself.

-Payton will choose Winston because of his arm talent and because Payton is and always will be a pass first coach. He's also going to need a QB moving forward. I get it. I understand it. If Payton can magically do what no one else has done and keep Winston from being a turnover machine and game loser, the Saints certainly have enough talent to win with him. I just don't see that happening. Winston was given EVERY opportunity in Tampa to succeed. He did not.
-Hill can absolutely be a NFL QB. He's smart. He's tough. He's fearless. He's so far beyond a gimmick player it's ridiculous. For his contributions, he's easily one of the MVP's on the team. I actually like his small body of work at QB. Would love to see more. Every QB misses passes. The current offense genuinely fits him more than Winston. Short to intermediate passing except now with benefits. The plus's being the RPO's which will utilize Kamara and Murray more. His superior ability to not only get first downs with his running but the possibility of chunk plays and TD's in the redzone with his legs. More opportunities to control the clock and thus more rest for the defense. His lack of tape making him harder to defense. His arm strength over Brees brings the deep ball back in play in a surprise type fashion. I like his potential. I believe in his upside. I believe the Saints will win more games this season with Hill starting over Winston. Hill is fun to watch and easy to root for.
-Payton will choose Winston. It is a real choice. It has real consequences for the Falcons game, into next season and beyond. I absolutely hope the Saints win with Winston under center. I fear Brees retiring after this season and the Saints signing Winston to a high salaried, long term deal. I believe it would be a mistake.

ChrisXVI 11-19-2020 04:31 PM

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Taysom is a garbage QB. Always was. Most of the time he’s making the wrong decisions on read options and when he does drop back to pass he gets sacked with open WR’s because he can’t read defenses.

cmike 11-19-2020 04:57 PM

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This isn’t even close, Winston is the clear choice. Taysom isn’t a starting nfl QB. But he is the best version of what he does. I’ll have to use at least two hands to count the number of times Hill has miss handled snaps this season alone. We’d be a 2-7 at best with Taysom as our starter. But we probably wouldn’t be 7-2 without the role he’s played so far.

SmashMouth 11-19-2020 11:35 PM

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SmashMouth 11-19-2020 11:49 PM

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subguy 11-20-2020 05:45 AM

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Unfortunately, and I emphasize unfortunately, Winston has to be the choice. I pray Drew only has to be out two weeks.

Taysom is more of a utility player than starting NFL QB, although he hasn't started in the NFL.

Just because Winston threw 30 interceptions last year doesn't mean he will do that now. Just because his TD% slightly edged his INT % doesn't mean he will have the same amount of failure now. I keep telling myself he was excited/nervous when he first entered the game last week. He is a lower bottom of the pack QB and has had a chance to prove himself since 2015.

Either way you slice it, Taysom or Jameis, if this is long-term, unless Winston goes to the Wizard and finds judgment we are screwed.

jeanpierre 11-20-2020 08:20 AM

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ChrisXVI 11-20-2020 08:58 AM

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I may not be a big believer in Taysom the QB, but I root for the team’s success above all else and if Payton believes this gives us the best chance to win then giddy up.

rezburna 11-20-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 904034)
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...05135871139841

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1329798998652293120

I may not be a big believer in Taysom the QB, but I root for the team’s success above all else and if Payton believes this gives us the best chance to win then giddy up.

Wow.

jeanpierre 11-20-2020 09:28 AM

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