The Official Eating Crow About Taysom Thread

[st thomas]

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not when Brees decides to play another year.

I’ll gladly take another year from his majesty. Damn straight


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[Cruize]

Originally Posted by st thomas

I’ll gladly take another year from his majesty. Damn straight


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I love Brees. Great man. Great leader. HOF career. Will easily go down as the best Saints QB in my lifetime. Could very possibly own the only Saints Super Bowl win, ever. Defended him against the few who thought he should have retired prior to this season. But now, looking forward, I'm just over him as the only way the Saints can win and be competitive. The arm is done. It can only decline further. His salary would cause the team to lose at least two quality players on defense this off season. Also, I'm truly concerned about his health. The play that seriously injured him this year was not brutal by football standards. It's just time.

[dizzle88]

Originally Posted by Cruize

I love Brees. Great man. Great leader. HOF career. Will easily go down as the best Saints QB in my lifetime. Could very possibly own the only Saints Super Bowl win, ever. Defended him against the few who thought he should have retired prior to this season. But now, looking forward, I'm just over him as the only way the Saints can win and be competitive. The arm is done. It can only decline further. His salary would cause the team to lose at least two quality players on defense this off season. Also, I'm truly concerned about his health. The play that seriously injured him this year was not brutal by football standards. It's just time.

Agreed, if Drews contract meant we lost someone like Demario Davis I'd be incredibly annoyed.

[cmike]

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Agreed, if Drews contract meant we lost someone like Demario Davis I'd be incredibly annoyed.

I think Davis just signed a new deal this off-season.
But with the way their playing together, losing anyone of them would be huge.

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by Cruize

I love Brees. Great man. Great leader. HOF career. Will easily go down as the best Saints QB in my lifetime. Could very possibly own the only Saints Super Bowl win, ever. Defended him against the few who thought he should have retired prior to this season. But now, looking forward, I'm just over him as the only way the Saints can win and be competitive. The arm is done. It can only decline further. His salary would cause the team to lose at least two quality players on defense this off season. Also, I'm truly concerned about his health. The play that seriously injured him this year was not brutal by football standards. It's just time.

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Agreed, if Drews contract meant we lost someone like Demario Davis I'd be incredibly annoyed.

Actually, Brees is under contract through 2021. IF he retires we take an immediate $22.65 million cap hit in dead money. If he decides to return his contract can be restructured as part of an extension which would free up cap space to help prevent losing key defensive players.

Also, he knows his body much better than any of us. If he isn't concerned about his welfare anymore than any other player then why should we be concerned?

Drew Brees Contract Details

[iceshack149]

Originally Posted by Cruize

I love Brees. Great man. Great leader. HOF career. Will easily go down as the best Saints QB in my lifetime. Could very possibly own the only Saints Super Bowl win, ever. Defended him against the few who thought he should have retired prior to this season. But now, looking forward, I'm just over him as the only way the Saints can win and be competitive. The arm is done. It can only decline further. His salary would cause the team to lose at least two quality players on defense this off season. Also, I'm truly concerned about his health. The play that seriously injured him this year was not brutal by football standards. It's just time.

This does not compute. Whether he can throw 20 yards or 50 yards there's no one I'd rather have leading this team. He helped the Saints come from behind against the NFL's golden boy to win the Superbowl and he's the consummate professional leader.

[gosaints1]

Originally Posted by iceshack149

This does not compute. Whether he can throw 20 yards or 50 yards there's no one I'd rather have leading this team. He helped the Saints come from behind against the NFL's golden boy to win the Superbowl and he's the consummate professional leader.

Whether he can throw 50 yards IS precisely the question that needs to be asked, well one of the questions. Along with whether he can improvise and do something with his feet instead of throwing it away. DB#9 has experience and he’s one of the most cerebral and accurate (0-20 yards) QB’s in the NFL but he’s not going to test a defense with his feet or a mid range to deep throw. $25 mil per year for a check down aged QB isn’t the right attitude to build the future team, imho. It’s holding onto the past and hoping the quadragenarian can make it through game after game, hit after hit, for one “final” championship. And he’s one of the least sacked QB’s on record, least hit also, but the body breaks down regardless of how well we take care of it as it ages, and injuries are more prevalent bc of it. Ice, I’m not saying you’re wrong, far from it. It’s a very good team, one that went 5-0 sans DB#9 last year and so far 3-0 this. The team is NOT just one player. This DB#9 is not the same DB#9 who won the SB. And it’s my belief that he’s only capable of running the Charlie checkdown portion of CSP’s playbook. And it limits the offense greatly.

[Boston Saint]

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Whether he can throw 50 yards IS precisely the question that needs to be asked, well one of the questions. Along with whether he can improvise and do something with his feet instead of throwing it away. DB#9 has experience and he’s one of the most cerebral and accurate (0-20 yards) QB’s in the NFL but he’s not going to test a defense with his feet or a mid range to deep throw. $25 mil per year for a check down aged QB isn’t the right attitude to build the future team, imho. It’s holding onto the past and hoping the quadragenarian can make it through game after game, hit after hit, for one “final” championship. And he’s one of the least sacked QB’s on record, least hit also, but the body breaks down regardless of how well we take care of it as it ages, and injuries are more prevalent bc of it. Ice, I’m not saying you’re wrong, far from it. It’s a very good team, one that went 5-0 sans DB#9 last year and so far 3-0 this. The team is NOT just one player. This DB#9 is not the same DB#9 who won the SB. And it’s my belief that he’s only capable of running the Charlie checkdown portion of CSP’s playbook. And it limits the offense greatly.

LOL. I made a post about how interesting it is to watch teams transition away from legendary QBs before. I lived it with the team I detest most in the NFL (Niners) for years while I lived there and watched the local fans debate how to go from Montana to Young and beyond. Since I wasn’t a fan Incould watch it with a detachment. Here in Pats country they are seeing it too and, honestly, am surprised at how they have started to play well with Newton.

It seems to me transitioning from a HOF Qb is a multi-faceted equation that takes into account Contracts, injuries, surrounding support, coaching, competition and other things i haven’t even thought of. Judging the decline in Brees’ throws has to be judged against cap hits if he retires against the Monetary value of a Brees goodbye season in a non lockdown country.

I’m not saying I have this formula of course. I’m pretty sure Payton and Loomis and Company have demonstrated they are as close to figuring it out as any other group of “mad scientists” is ! 😄

[WW_Who_Dat]

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Whether he can throw 50 yards IS precisely the question that needs to be asked, well one of the questions. Along with whether he can improvise and do something with his feet instead of throwing it away. DB#9 has experience and he’s one of the most cerebral and accurate (0-20 yards) QB’s in the NFL but he’s not going to test a defense with his feet or a mid range to deep throw. $25 mil per year for a check down aged QB isn’t the right attitude to build the future team, imho. It’s holding onto the past and hoping the quadragenarian can make it through game after game, hit after hit, for one “final” championship. And he’s one of the least sacked QB’s on record, least hit also, but the body breaks down regardless of how well we take care of it as it ages, and injuries are more prevalent bc of it. Ice, I’m not saying you’re wrong, far from it. It’s a very good team, one that went 5-0 sans DB#9 last year and so far 3-0 this. The team is NOT just one player. This DB#9 is not the same DB#9 who won the SB. And it’s my belief that he’s only capable of running the Charlie checkdown portion of CSP’s playbook. And it limits the offense greatly.

It all about command, control and confidence. CSP has all of those in DB, the players have that in DB. DB has Command of the offense, control of the game plan of the week and the demonstrated confidence to execute. Weather he throws the ball downfield 5 yards or 20 yards is not the point, the point is he is moving the team down the field with his complete command of the offensive scheme. Who else would you want in a 2:00 minute drill the win a game. He’s in control because he understands what the defense is trying to do and adjust before the ball is snapped. Does always execute, no, no player is perfect.

I don’t think I have ever heard DB blame anyone when things did not go well.

I like Taysom might be what we have next year and I will support him or whoever is our QB and the team as I have since 1967. But this year when Drew Brees says he ready he needs to be the one leading this team in the playoffs and on to the SuperBowl.