Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

I knew that the off field stuff would come in to play in this thread. I honestly wanted to get people's opinion on his play since it may be that he's a big reason that the defense is playing so well.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

It isn’t the debate. It’s the keeping it going when the individuals involved say it’s over. I don’t utilize the term racist because I recognize racism to be a system. Bigoted or prejudiced is typically more applicable in those cases, but I don’t really care enough about the individual battles to utilize the verbiage on the forum.

I won’t lie to you and act like I don’t get those vibes from a lot posters, but I’ve dealt with those kind of personalities my entire life. I’m numb to it. You’ve always been respectful though. It would be intellectually dishonest on my part not to acknowledge that.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

My apologies for high jacking the thread. I believe that I was the first person to mention that Jenkins did not go to Drew. Instead he went on social media and put public undue pressure on Drew. Before he ever talked to Drew the world was mad at him. Drew took it well but I didn't.

Back on topic MJ has improved his game since Kwon came on board. He's a good chess piece for DA. I just hope can keep it up.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

I think it’s the combination of him and Davis. That’s a lot of experience and knowledge at the 2nd and 3rd levels of the defense. Somebody should see if they can find out how often Jenkins lines up on the 2nd level.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Respect.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

That's why I respect you so much, Rugs.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

I'm respectful because I respect you Rez. Your background, your experience, your opinion. All things I don't have but they make me a more well rounded person.

At the end of the day what was made of Brees's comments struck me the wrong way. Not because I know Drew personally but I like to believe his intention was pure.

I also understand Malcolm's perspective - the work he's done, the issues, the frustration he must feel seeing the opportunity is right there yet a slide back to status quo is inevitable.

I typically stay away from political banter because today's age it's a no-win proposal. But sometimes I just get aggravated by people's refusal to be more understanding.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

It’s all easy to say something like “the players have put it behind them, so let go”. But look at the fight that happened at the Florida HS football game this weekend that was basically started by differences of opinions about respecting the flag and kneeling for it. It’s hard to “let go” for some when it is seemingly shoved down the throat by sports figures all the time on social media. Some are sick of athletes like LeBron James making statements about inequity from their Ivory Towers. Frequently those shouting “Let it go!” are the people that got it the way they wanted.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Sounds like that may have been influenced by parents teaching their children through their own behavior to be intolerant.

Sad.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

I think Boston made a solid point. Yes it may have come from parents but it also comes from other influences such as sports figures, politicians, media and yes, online message boards.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Maybe. It’s also possible they could have been influenced by BS social media influencers and bias coverage that clouds young people’s minds with false ideas.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Those kids aren't following "politicians, media and yes, online message boards." Mom and dad are.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Are honestly going to claim that teenagers AREN’T influenced by social media ??!! 🙄

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Teenagers decide the narrative of social media. At this point, they ARE the influencers.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Don’t. Just don’t. Dudes a troll and you seem pretty intelligent. He gets threatened by that. It’s not worth your time.
Welcome aboard BTW.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Sure they are. Why do you think politicians are pushing to lower the voting age.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

I recently saw a Father bring his teenage Son and Daughter into Walmart at 3:30 in the afternoon still in their PJ's. Kids are increasingly and tragically poorly raised and lacking in any real life skills. Stupid is absolutely a learned condition. Stupidity is often celebrated and sometimes rewarded in our society. Mostly by those with power seeking more power and control.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Was there a purpose for this thread?

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

I think it started as evaluation of Jenkins play/impact vs Bell’s. I may have steered it off course when I compared having Bush and his social impact with Jenkins and his. My bad.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

The off field stuff was inevitably going to make it's way into the discussion.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Does anybody have access to the advanced analytics of specific players as well as the team in general?

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

As in Premium PFF or such? Even Pro Football Reference has gone to a premium pay setup for their advanced analytics. I'd like to find a free site myself.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Yeah! I’m curious to see how often Jenkins lines up in specific places.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

This is from a USAToday article I remembered from early in the year ...

Malcolm Jenkins’ triumphant return to New Orleans couldn’t have got off to a better start. Jenkins was used all over the Saints’ defense and had an impact in seemingly every role. He spent snaps as a deep-lying free safety (22) in the box (20), crowding the line of scrimmage as a threat to blitz (17), covering the slot (7) and even split wide as a perimeter corner to match up with Bucs’ receivers (4). He even played special teams to add to his contributions. Jenkins had two total pressures from six pass-rushing snaps on the blitz, recorded two defensive stops and didn’t give up a catch during the game as the Saints defense frustrated Tom Brady and the Bucs.

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/wp-c...kins-snaps.png

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

So when he’s not in the box or close to the line he’s the Free Safety, and we haven’t had near as many issues getting beat deep.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

I think that’s the first Bucs game.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

I saw another breakdown a few weeks back, but I can't remember the source. I only remember that it was similar in nature.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

It was.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

I subscribe to Nick Underhill. He reports on each week’s personnel groupings.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

Man how times have changed! I remember when we moved from Baton Rouge to Billings Mt I’d have to check the Monday paper to see weather Russell Erxleben hit a game winner or not! You youngsters got that all at your fingertips now. GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DANG HIPPIES!! 🤣

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

I posted this in the wrong forum obviously.

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

That's it! One more mistake and we'll be poking fun at you. Ha ha. :roflmao:

Re: Malcolm Jenkins
 

I’ve been wondering what’s taking everyone so long !