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The Dude 12-13-2020 06:21 PM

Wtf is up with Lutz???
 
Jesus.

rezburna 12-13-2020 06:33 PM

Re: Wtf is up with Lutz???
 
Those two misses cost us big time.

bobdog86 12-13-2020 06:35 PM

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Yeah not good, although there wasn’t much good anywhere today. I’d put ore blame on the defensive side.

rezburna 12-13-2020 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 907202)
Yeah not good, although there wasn’t much good anywhere today. I’d put ore blame on the defensive side.

Lol. You can’t be serious?

dizzle88 12-13-2020 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 907218)
Lol. You can’t be serious?

Why not? 236 rushing yards and 2 TD's is solely on the defense.

K Major 12-13-2020 06:53 PM

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If anyone can stomach re watching this game …

Trey Hendrickson was a lot of bad today.

The Dude 12-13-2020 06:53 PM

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I think there’s enough blame to go around today but Lutz has missed what, 4-5 in a row?

rezburna 12-13-2020 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 907219)
Why not? 236 rushing yards and 2 TD's is solely on the defense.


3 and out first drive.
8 plays and a missed field goal second drive.
5 plays and punt third drive.
3 plays and a pick.
6 plays and a punt.
3 plays and a punt.

The offense was non existent the first half and put the Eagles in position to score and have the momentum.

When the offense finally decided to show up the defense only gave up 7 points. Y’all gotta stop looking at the stat lines and pay attention to the flow of the game. WHEN you score. WHEN you turn the ball over. WHEN you miss a kick. That stuff effects playcalling for both teams and on both sides of the ball.

The high-powered, Saints offense can’t score 25 points? Taysom Hill’s two turnovers and those two missed field goals killed this game. For all those rushing yards the Eagles weren’t really controlling the game because of it. The time of possession was about equal. The bulk of Sanders yards came from one play.

The Dude 12-13-2020 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 907229)
3 and out first drive.
8 plays and a missed field goal second drive.
5 plays and punt third drive.
3 plays and a pick.
6 plays and a punt.
3 plays and a punt.

The offense was non existent the first half and put the Eagles in position to score and have the momentum.

When the offense finally decided to show up the defense only gave up 7 points. Y’all gotta stop looking at the stat lines and pay attention to the flow of the game. WHEN you score. WHEN you turn the ball over. WHEN you miss a kick.

The high-powered, Saints offense can’t score 25 points? Taysom Hill’s two turnovers and those two missed field goals killed this game. For all those rushing yards the Eagles weren’t really controlling the game because of it. The time of possession was about equal. The bulk of Sanders yards came from one play.

I only saw the one interception, please tell me the other wasn’t a fumble.

rezburna 12-13-2020 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 907233)
I only saw the one interception, please tell me the other wasn’t a fumble.

Saints driving down the field to take the lead or tie and Taysom fumbled on 4th and 2 with Michael Thomas wide open. This put the Eagles at close to the 50...but I guess the field position don’t matter. Defense supposed to bail us out of everything.

NewfieSaint 12-13-2020 07:06 PM

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I dunno.. ever since that slip.. maybe he's playing a little injured or all in his head?

WhoDat!656 12-13-2020 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 907229)
3 and out first drive.
8 plays and a missed field goal second drive.
5 plays and punt third drive.
3 plays and a pick.
6 plays and a punt.
3 plays and a punt.

The offense was non existent the first half and put the Eagles in position to score and have the momentum.

When the offense finally decided to show up the defense only gave up 7 points. Y’all gotta stop looking at the stat lines and pay attention to the flow of the game. WHEN you score. WHEN you turn the ball over. WHEN you miss a kick. That stuff effects playcalling for both teams and on both sides of the ball.

The high-powered, Saints offense can’t score 25 points? Taysom Hill’s two turnovers and those two missed field goals killed this game. For all those rushing yards the Eagles weren’t really controlling the game because of it. The time of possession was about equal. The bulk of Sanders yards came from one play.

Where was the #1 defense in the 1st half?

Cruize 12-13-2020 07:17 PM

Re: Wtf is up with Lutz???
 
He has allergies. Glaucoma. He's very sensitive. Or, he and Snoop would have a large time. Seriously, look at the dudes red, glassy eyes. :)

rezburna 12-13-2020 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 907237)
Where was the #1 defense in the 1st half?

On the field tired because the offense is going 3 and out and throwing interceptions that put the Eagles damn near in the red zone. #1 defense still held them to a field goal though if I’m not mistaken. Only for the offense to punt after 6 plays the next drive.

WhoDat!656 12-13-2020 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 907248)
On the field tired because the offense is going 3 and out and throwing interceptions that put the Eagles damn near in the red zone. #1 defense still held them to a field goal though if I’m not mistaken. Only for the offense to punt after 6 plays the next drive.

Did the defense get a sack?

rezburna 12-13-2020 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 907250)
Did the defense get a sack?

Hurts averaged 5.6 yards a completion. You can’t sack somebody getting the ball out after his first read.

They got stops when they needed stops.

Offense and special teams failed them.

WhoDat!656 12-13-2020 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 907253)
Hurts averaged 5.6 yards a completion. You can’t sack somebody getting the ball out after his first read.

If the defense covered the WRs better...

rezburna 12-13-2020 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 907257)
If the defense covered the WRs better...

Right...Eagles WR’s killed us this game. They were flying all over the field. Couldn’t keep them out the end zone.

WhoDat!656 12-13-2020 07:48 PM

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This was a team loss; offense and defense did exactly jack$hit in the first half.

bobdog86 12-13-2020 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 907218)
Lol. You can’t be serious?

Absolutely, are you serious? 230+ yards rushing, once again we make a young qb look like the next messiah. I put most of it on the staff plus the defense.

rezburna 12-13-2020 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 907263)
Absolutely, are you serious? 230+ yards rushing, once again we make a young qb look like the next messiah. I put most of it on the staff plus the defense.

Hurts looked decent. We definitely didn’t make him look like a messiah. He completed 57% of his passes and protected the ball like he did at Alabama. His damage came on the ground from scrambles because we play a lot of man and **** was locked up. Again, a big chunk of that yardage came on one play. The defense gave up 24 points. The league average is 25 points. Offense and special teams couldn’t even be average.

rezburna 12-13-2020 08:00 PM

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Taysom Hill had 291 yards, 2 TDs, completed 73% of his passes, and had a 102 QBR. He looked just like Drew Brees right? That’s what the stat line says. He torched the Eagles, huh?

K Major 12-13-2020 08:13 PM

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I like Taysom the weapon but let's be honest here, he's not a starter in this league long term. I'm sure Underhill, Deuce or someone will break down his play on tomorrow but he had guys open today.

Saints either give Winston a serious look (assuming he returns in 2021) at camp, draft one or in Free Agency.

rezburna 12-13-2020 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 907266)
I like Taysom the weapon but let's be honest here, he's not a starter in this league long term. I'm sure Underhill, Deuce or someone will break down his play on tomorrow but he had guys open today.

Saints either give Winston a serious look (assuming he returns in 2021) at camp, draft one or in Free Agency.

Thank you. Guys running wide open and he didn’t see them. That secondary was decimated and he couldn’t take advantage of it. You score on offense and it makes your opposition one-dimensionsal.

RefsRobbedUs 12-13-2020 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 907262)
This was a team loss; offense and defense did exactly jack$hit in the first half.

exactly i dont know why people need to blame one person some games that can work but not today.

taysom isn't the answer though

RefsRobbedUs 12-13-2020 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 907266)
I like Taysom the weapon.

Me too but Payton isn't even using his weapon. He has Taysom as a pocket passer.

cmike 12-13-2020 08:26 PM

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Play of the game. CJGJ let a go ahead pick 6 slip right through his hands. Players on a #1 defense don’t miss those opportunities.

shawnkytonk 12-13-2020 08:44 PM

Re: Wtf is up with Lutz???
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 907219)
Why not? 236 rushing yards and 2 TD's is solely on the defense.

The 1st half was definitely different than the 2nd. There was no film on Hurts and the gameplan.

st thomas 12-13-2020 09:17 PM

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We all know hill isn’t the answer , but it is what it is. Winston does not grasp the playbook yet, hill has 3 years in the system and Payton blew smoke up his asre not to leave for another team so it’s who we got live with it. Until Brees comes back if he does at all, to me it’s why Payton is controlling his runs can’t risk the injury. I believe we have hill at least next week to.


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WW_Who_Dat 12-13-2020 09:44 PM

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Tonight was the third or fourth time I’ve seen TH burn a fastball into the receivers from close range when absolutely not necessary. Tonight he almost took the arms and hands off AK from less than 10’ on a screen. Interception was the result. Either just a lack of touch or the game is still to fast for him see read and understand what he needs in that moment. Too many passes with placement that the intended receiver has no chance of making even a spectacular catch.

One man turnover machine.

Rsanders24 12-13-2020 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 907275)
The 1st half was definitely different than the 2nd. There was no film on Hurts and the gameplan.

They had plently of film on Hurts from Alabama and OU. His game hasn’t changed.

Defense didn’t execute containment, especially in the first half and the offense didn’t arrive at the stadium until the 2nd half.

subguy 12-14-2020 05:19 AM

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The entire team looked flat. Taysom had a bad game but obviously we started the best QB available.

TheOak 12-14-2020 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 907180)
Jesus.

Are you saying Lutz needs Jesus, or Jesus is what is up with Lutz.. Speak in sentences man! lol

Boston Saint 12-14-2020 07:54 AM

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Plenty of blame for this one. I’d say the Eagles were better on Offense, Defense, Special Teams and coaching. I personally hate the term, but turned out to be the classic trap game.

gosaints1 12-14-2020 08:03 AM

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Offense, Defense, and ST’s left points off the board last night, there was good and bad in all three. The win was there for the taking, but all three phases of the game contributed to us getting an L instead of a W.

On to KC.

Budsdrinker 12-14-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 907267)
Thank you. Guys running wide open and he didn’t see them. That secondary was decimated and he couldn’t take advantage of it. You score on offense and it makes your opposition one-dimensionsal.

The OL had a bad game. Hill didn't have the time to throw to those open receivers. They sacked him 5 times including the blindside strip sack on 4th and 2 which was a bad playcall by the way. Lot's of blame yesterday. Sanders long run was due to an undisciplined Kwon who tried to run around the backside for the tackle instead of filling the hole like he was supposed to. Peat was beat twice for sacks, Armstead gave one up as well but will count that towards not being full strength due to 2 weeks of covid. Dline didn't contain either with the ends crashing down inside allowing Hurts to escape outside. All around bad game by everyone.

gosaints1 12-14-2020 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 907197)
Those two misses cost us big time.

While that is true, no doubt about it, a very good argument could be made that CJGJ’s inability to put two hand’s together with a ball in the middle cost us “big time” also. Only an on the field heart attack would have stopped him from scoring. We could also say that a wide open Sanders trying to stretch for an TH#7 overthrown ball cost us “big time”. The win was there to be had my friend, the team just didn’t take it. All three portions of it.

Budsdrinker 12-14-2020 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 907311)
While that is true, no doubt about it, a very good argument could be made that CJGJ’s inability to put two hand’s together with a ball in the middle cost us “big time” also. Only an on the field heart attack would have stopped him from scoring. We could also say that a wide open Sanders trying to stretch for an TH#7 overthrown ball cost us “big time”. The win was there to be had my friend, the team just didn’t take it. All three portions of it.

The missed Sanders didn't cost us because the next play was TD to Cook

K Major 12-14-2020 09:11 AM

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Team loss. EVERYONE performed poorly.

From the Head Coach on down.

But for me, the loss was concerning because we were handled by one of the worst teams in the league. We aren't in week 3. Saints had no killer instinct (see Bills game last night) from the opening whistle. A team with nothing to play for is dangerous.

Watch how poorly Jalen performs on next week.

rezburna 12-14-2020 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 907311)
While that is true, no doubt about it, a very good argument could be made that CJGJ’s inability to put two hand’s together with a ball in the middle cost us “big time” also. Only an on the field heart attack would have stopped him from scoring. We could also say that a wide open Sanders trying to stretch for an TH#7 overthrown ball cost us “big time”. The win was there to be had my friend, the team just didn’t take it. All three portions of it.

I’m not blaming CJG for making a stop and forcing a punt only for Taysom Hill to drive down the field and fumble on 4th and 2. It’s not the defenses responsibility to put points on the board, that’s just a plus if they do. Up to that point it was:

Eagles punt.
Saints TD.
Eagles punt.
Saints TD

CJG gets a big stop on 3rd and 5 regardless if it was intercepted or not and forces a third straight punt. The offense failed to produce when it mattered the most. Even a field goal in that situation changes the game. But nah, fumble. Not to mention...this is a mobile QB. MAKE TIME. ROLL OUT. SCRAMBLE. FORCE THE DEFENSE INTO ZONE COVERAGE AND THEN PICK IT APART.


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