Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles
 

Well looks like it’s official...

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Good scoop on an unfortunate situation Chris. Next man Up!

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That’s a HUGE L. We can’t depend on the defense to be elite anymore. Anzalone is the ultimate liability.

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We need Hendrickson and Malcom Brown back. If our D-Line can get back to full strength and our secondary stays healthy we may be able to survive. If we have to play more dime then so be it.

The fascinating thing to see now will be how we handle Kwon’s contract situation in the offseason. He has a $13.4 million cap hit next year with no dead money if released. He’s a perfect candidate for an extension to keep him around and lower the cap hit, but this injury complicates matters.

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Neauuuuuuux!

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Gardner hits like a LB at times.

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I don’t agree with that... what’s your reasoning behind Anzalone ?

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In this game alone he allowed the man he was responsible for to run wide open in the endzone for a TD. Of course Malcolm was blamed for it. He’s just missing too many assignments.

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It’s a wrap was hoping he would be healthy so we could get him cheap next year

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This injury is a big blow, the defense really started to play well once he came over. Feel bad for Kwon and wish him a speedy recovery. AA is going to need to step up and might be more packages for Swearinger. Up to DA to find ways around it but every team faces these situations and the great teams are the ones who step up and figure it out. Getting everyone on the D-line healthy so we can wreak havoc with our front 4 will go a long way towards helping with the injury.

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He’s horrendous in pass coverage. That’s why the Saints were so active in trading for a linebacker. They brought Alexander in for a reason. Anzalone doesn’t even rotate in the game now that Alexander is here. He’s horrible. As soon as he comes in bad things happen.

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Facts. Looks like Jenkins had the flats and Anzalone was supposed to drift out into coverage, but was nowhere to be found.

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Anzalone will need to tighten up game and limit the mistakes. Haven't given up on Anzalone yet, but Kwon has left some pretty big shoes to fill.

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Saw that too but Malcom had a pretty ****ty game. Then laughed about it.

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Matching him up against Jefferson and Thielen is poor scheming. I wouldn’t do that to him.

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Mark Barron was recently cut from Denver ? Or Alec Olgetree?

We need someone behind Alex because as we know, he's injury prone.

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Boffum scrubs.

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I think folks are pretty short sighted on Anzalone. Calling out 1 bad play that was a 50/50 zone split is dumb. Our D crumbled the last 3 weeks with Anzalone on the sidelines.

Losing Kwon isn’t that bad, it’s more important we get a healthy D line and MJ stops getting dumb penalties called on him because he gets caught out of position.

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We’ve been watching him **** up in coverage and get hurt for several years now.

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This is a big, big loss. Kwon was a great addition to this defense.

He could cover TE's and WR's .. basically a safety playing LB.

Baun ain't ready though. Thor is gonna have to step up.

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There is no sugar coating the fact that losing Kwon is a big blow on the surface. However, the only way forward I see is to buckle down with the roster as is and go forward. Much like the thread about signing Stills or another FA WR, there isn’t going to be a player available that can step in week 17 and help.

If/when the D line gets healthy for the playoff push and the secondary is intact for the massive push a healthy D-line can provide AND the Offense can rack up 50 points like tonight....then I still like the chances of another SB. Let’s face it, the Saints just assured the team that knocked them out of the playoffs 2 out of the last 3 years WON’T be able to do so this season. That’s a BIG psychological win IMO.

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Good player. 100 percent effort all the time. Big loss for the defense.

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Well we certainly didn’t get better with anzalone! I’d rather have PJ play that role than Alex.

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We just aren’t meant to have great LB’s. That’s why Demario Davis has been such a blessing.

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Gutting

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The defense gelled when Kwon got here. He allowed Davis to do his job without hesitation instead of playing slower to cover for Thor who is pure s***! Man, I feel bad for Kwon but now I'm worried about teams exploiting our LB'ers.

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People are over estimating Kwon...

PFF grades:
Kwon: 54
Alex: 65

Kwon consist at overrunning plays and missing tackles, our run D got worse and worse with him shooting backside gaps and not closing or overshooting and allowing cut backs. He consistently plays the run undisciplined. However, he is far better at coverage, but not as good as Davis.

I am not advocating for Alex to start... I’d like to see Baun play against CAR, but the true need for us it to get healthy on the D line again.

Edit:
Most of you seem to be short sighted... this D ranked 7th during our worst stretch (first 4 games). This defense has been solid when they don’t commit penalties and allow hidden yards. Since those first 4 games you could argue our next worse would be the last 3 games, all of which Kwon started and we allowed gashing runs... again not all him.

Those of you praising Kwon are the same ones calling for DAs head during the first 4 games of the season. Clueless then, clueless now.

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I rather see Baun wont happen but I rather him In the game giving up a play

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I think it would be unfair for us to create a Anzalone screwup mixtape. We could but what a waste of time. Just go back and watch the games.
I wouldn’t do that because I’m trying to focus on the positive for him.
He’s our only hope at this point.

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I'm not sure which TD you're referring to, but on that one from practically the goalline - I'm pretty sure Irv Smith Jr was Davis' responsibility.

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It's almost like re-living the Shanle conversations from years back...

His whole collegiate and pro careers have been plagued by injuries, which isn't really his fault. I do acknowledge that I'm a bit of a Anzalone fan, and maybe even an apologist, but I do honestly think he is an above average LB in the league.

Anyway, he is probably gone after this season, so we'll get to see if it was the coaching/scheme or the player himself, which kept him from being a better player for the Saints.

Honestly, I'm more concerned about Baun's progress...

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The TD with .22 left in the 3rd. Anzalone’s guy all the way.

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This should be the last year that he looks lost in a Saints uniform. Hopefully!!! Too many blown coverages, bad angles and poor tackling resulting from those bad angles. I liked him at first but he has regressed each year and he stopped shining to me a long time ago. The FO traded and replaced him with Kwon if that tells you anything. :doh:

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Exactly right. Kwon is good but he isn't the greatest either. His bad read is what allowed the long TD run by Sanders in the eagles game. DLine and Brown being available is the key.

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I just want to say that he's my sub LB on Madden and he wrecks there. :cool:



I'm not exactly the biggest Anzalone fan but he's been pretty consistent all year... better than Kwon as some have pointed out. The difference IMO is the energy Kwon brings which isn't measured in stats.

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Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him.

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Exactly.

Saints need to find a capable back up in case Alex goes down as we enter post season. I love Craig R but he's too slow and nothing more than a special teamer at this point of his career.

Demario won't be able to roam now that Kwon is out.

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And how did you come up with that stretch of a conclusion? Perhaps it had something to do with facing four straight abysmal opponents in his (Alexander's) first four games (SF, ATL, DEN, ATL).

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Well, several reasons but for one, Anzalone’s playing time decreased with each week. He couldn’t cover passing routes. He couldn’t blitz. He missed too many assignments.

Would you trust him?

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It surely is a loss. I feel bad for the team and more so for him. Hope you rebound Kwon. Smarter folk than me will have to figure out how his injury impacts his contract and how he and the Saints move going forward. As a consolation he will get a Super Bowl ring because he is a Saint !