Who to pull for on Saturday
 

Since we know the Saints will win on Sunday, I’m juggling on who to pull for in the Rams/Seahawks game. If Tampa and Rams win, then Saints get Tampa...then travel to GB

If Seattle and Tampa win, then its host Seattle and play the winner of the Bays.

Which is better ?

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I have no idea!

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Gotta take of business first on Sunday.. but..
My gut feeling says rather play seachickens...

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If Washington blitzes the fucck out of Tom he’s gonna fold, bank it


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Prediction:
WFT beats Tampa on a last second play
Rams beat Seattle
Saints win and cover

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Can we please just worry about the Bears game first?

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No shiiit ah, they got me started


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I’m not too sold on us taking care of business against the Bears.

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Those who expect to fail will inevitably find a way.

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I’m talking about who to pull against in a game that is played before the Saints game and a game they have NO impact on. Lighten up.

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I’m watching rerun bears packers , the bears just suck man ,, they are who I thought they were.


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Honestly, it doesn’t matter. We can beat all of the other playoff teams until we have to go to Lambeau. Packers will whoop us again.

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Sorry, Seattle has to lose. Don’t care bout anything else. But I hate the Hawks.

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You said it right freaking Lambeau, going to Green Bay in January is like the Arctic probably be a blizzard there.
But we gotta get there first before the Saints bring out the Parkas.

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Stop it. WE DESERVE THIS AS SAINTS FANS! Saints win against the bears, (notice I didn't give them a cap on the B). We win against the bears. IDGAF about them, I care about the Superbowl. Drew will get us there, if it's on his last rib... This is it boys... I'd rather the Seahags honestly...

Edit- Seahags, then the fudgepackers please.

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We can beat GB on the road. There is a chance they might not make it out the first game and we will have homefield. The Bears shouldve won. They dropped at least 3 INTS. Losing their LT for the year doesnt help . If we do have to play them in GB i hope it is a blizzard. Our run game and run defense is much better than theirs.

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We wouldn't expect you to be. It would be out of character.

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LOL. I know man. I think the way the playoffs have ended for us the last couple of years has me overly worried.

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I will probably watch some of these games just to check out the competition. It's hard for me to watch football because of the sloppy play and lopsided officiating. I am fairly tightly wound and seeing that upsets me to no end. I can't help it. I take medicines to keep me relaxed but one bad call sends my blood pressure up.

I usually mute the game and listen to my music. It's the officiating that is the problem with the NFL and they won't work on the problem because they are getting their desired results. Big market teams are favored over small market teams. The fix is in. It's not a sport. It's entertainment. Well, I'm not entertained! :argue:

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Sloppy play? I've been watching NFL football for my entire life. Play is no more sloppy now than it has ever been. The big difference is that every play can be rebroadcast from 12 camera angles on 20 different channels and picked apart. The athletes playing today are so elite that they can make other elite athletes look silly on certain plays.

The same thing with the officiating. There was no replay to show errors. There were no rebroadcasts of games to see mistakes. Officiating today is probably far more accurate than it has ever been because it is being held to a standard higher than ever. I'll assure you that there was far more holding being done in the past. There were single camera angles. No replay. Poor lighting. Poor field conditions.

Like I have said many times in the past, NFL football IS entertainment. That doesn't mean there has to be a fix. NFL football has ALWAYS been entertainment. That's why tickets are sold. Major League Baseball is and always has been entertainment. The same for every professional sport. Their whole premise is for entertainment. That doesn't mean that they are fixed.

I watch every game I possibly can, Saints or other, and am never turned off by style of play or officiating. Sure, I don't like it when a call goes against my Saints, but it surely doesn't affect for my love of the game.

I hope you someday can just enjoy the games for what they are meant to be and not make anything more of them.

Who Dat, my friend!

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As a referee I abhor uneven officiating. I have no respect for bad officiating and what it does to the game. It's the unevenness or lack of consistency that drives me nuts! Guido, you say it's entertainment like WWE. I'm not arguing the point. I bought into your perspective once I listened to your valid points. It's not a game anymore and my heart tells me not to get involved where someone else determines the outcome of what I expected to be fair play in the past.

The fix might not be in but It's definitely tilted that way thanks to Roger Godhell. Before he came into office the NFL was well respected and earned the respect of it's viewers who are now leaving in droves. Now a large part of the established fan base is checking out. I'll agree with you again that the NFL is not suffering from a loss of fans. They are currently trying to go world wide. When you are a global identity you can do what you want.

I'm not arguing with you. As I referenced earlier I take mood elevators, anti depressants, and anxiety medication to stay on an even keel. When I watch the NFL I see poor officiating that I've seen it get worse over the years.

Why won't we get professional referees? Because then Godhell couldn't control the predetermined outcome. I try to be a happy person but there are just somethings I can't look past such as poor officiating and bullies. The NFL has both. Yeah, I'm looking at you Roger! Once again, I'm not being argumentative. I'm just stating how I feel about the quality of todays NFL. :peace:

Edit: I'm watching more college ball where the refs don't control the outcome. College still plays "real football" and it's fun to watch.

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No, Rugs. I have never said it is entertainment like WWE. Far from it. Professional wrestling has always been scripted. Fine music is entertainment, as is midget porn. I wouldn't lump those together. ;)

But, the NFL is as much of a game today as it has ever been. Different via rules changes, different via talent levels, but still made up with players and coaches that get paid for winning. Still as much of a game as ever. I don't care for tinfoil hats as they feel rough on my bald head. If the game was as orchestrated as you believe I will assure you that years ago someone would have made a fortune selling that inside story. You cannot pull off something approaching game fixing, especially with gambling involved, without some sort of inquiry. How many NFL officials have been fired over the years? There have been many. If any fixing was going on why didn't any of them go public? Because there is no fixing.

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There is corruption throughout major college sports, especially football. Real football is played at both levels. Once again, if refs on any level intentionally affected game's outcomes it would be exposed. You cannot keep all of the thousands of people involved in the games quiet.

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I don't care what the results are for the games on Saturday! We will get who we get and that's that!

Just need to make sure we get that win against the Bears first! That's the only game I'm interested in! Its the playoffs so anything can happen! WHO DAT!

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This is so true! The playoffs are not a reflection of any team's season. Wipe the slate clean and start over.

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I cannot wait for Saturday and Sunday game day. Game weekend.

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We don't play or coach which affords us the luxury of being able to worry about anything we like while having zero effect on outcomes.. no?

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I will be pulling for the Rams and Redskins... Seahawks have wonet 4 of their last 4 games and are always problematic for us. The Rams are 2-2 in their last 4 and don't have a hot hand.

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( If)Tell that to the 77,000 in nfccg in 2018 and 60,000,000 in front of them hdtv’s ;AG, corrupt as Eddie Debartillo , Edwin Edwards (who I voted for) [emoji102]


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It was a horrible call. It was not, however, orchestrated. It was caused not by corrupt officials or mandates from the league office, but by officials that froze under pressure of the moment. It was nothing nefarious, but simple incompetency in the moment. Incompetency and fear of overriding the official that screwed up the initial call.

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It would be sweet to face Tampa in the conference final and murder their dreams of the Lombardi

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I'd like to believe that but none of us really know. It was an awful non call that had most of us thinking that there is absolutely something to the conspiracy theories.

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The thing about conspiracy theories is that almost all of them do not pass the test of Occam's Razor. Far too many people would have to have had some knowledge of any sort of fix or tampering. Somebody would have come forward, even anonymously, to point a finger at that sort of wrong doing over all these years for every instance that tampering has been claimed by grieving fans.

What Occam's Razor does support is a colossal screw-up by the officiating crew. Several factors could have contributed the blown call, but putting in the fix is not among them. We just happened to catch the brunt of that screw-up.

The temporary rule change to allow challenges didn't work, but what we have seen are far more officials getting together to talk through those types of calls.

Ask Rugby if he truly thinks fixing games could truly happen at that level by officials without anyone knowing about it. He may referee a different sport, but the concept is the same.

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I don't know about league conspiracy but corruption that everyone saw and Goodell refused to fix even though he had the power.

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Occam’s razor hell. If you believe Goodell and the league don’t have a grudge against the Saints and that the non PI call was just a mistake, then you don’t have your eyes open.

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I have my eyes open and I'm not an idiot. Come on. There's no way a call can be made in a split second just to screw one team. Explain how that can happen. Then explain how everyone involved kept it some super secret that they were instructed to cheat the Saints.

Get real. I'm sorry but I thought you were more aware than that, Boston. Geez. They fu$ked up the call. Pure and simple. It totally sucked for us, but there is no way in hell it was premeditated.

My eyes are wide open. Try opening yours. Nobody was more pissed off about that bad call than me, but trying to call it an intentional bad call is just plain stupid.

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Don’t want to go back there, to the fix, but goodfuickdell got what he deserved anyway, prolly the worst Super Bowl ever in my book . How many pts did the Rams get? But like someone said we didn’t take care of our business we let them smucks hang around all day , and a blown call killed the lucky out of us.


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Rugby Saint,

I deal with anxiety myself so I feel for you. I have to admit that I have to check myself in terms of much I can get emotionally invested as much for my mental health as for anything.

I will try to catch myself and have learned to do this after this series of incredibly disappointing finishes the last few seasons due to bad officiating and bad luck and yes, just playing flat or poor play calling and execution.

I love the Saints dearly and appreciate the rollercoaster that is the NFL season and love the rush of adrenaline I get when the Saints do defeat an opponent but even when the Saints win in thrilling fashion it is important for me to try to keep things in their proper perspective...win or lose.

The losses seem almost insurmountable(especially in the amplified atmosphere of the NFL post season) but keeping a thrilling W or a soul crushing loss in it's proper context has surely helped me to cope.

All the best to you and my wish is that the Saints lift you more than they upset you.:bng:

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They didnt just blow a call. Its the worst no call in NFL history that wouldve put us in the Super bowl. Im not saying it was fixed all throughout the officials but there is without question bias involved.

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The "league" is the owners, so to say the league has it out for a team would mean that /Tom (previously)Gayle Benson has a grudge against their own team. The league, 32 owners, have a product with 32 individual parts, why would it intentionally damage a part?

Do you think Jerry Jones or Bob Kraft, or Gayle Benson are going to pay salary to a referee to intentionally damage their revenue stream? That is what you are saying.

The league may have favorites and they may level harder penalties against some of the the teams that aren't as willing to be media darlings but until you provide incentive for the owners to hurt their own company you have no ground to stand on. The referee's are craptastic and we are not the only ream n the last decade to be in the end of their craptastic decisions.

At best the Ram's no call was piss poor officiating, at worse a referee made bets or the league wanted the Rams in the playoffs but a grudge... there is no reason or upside.

Goodell answers to the owners, not vice versa.