Saints Wildcard Playoff Injury Report

dizzle88 · 01-08-2021, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Cam Jordan isn’t getting any pressure on QB’s... It’s pretty much all on Davenport this weekend. Granderson ain’t there yet.

Granderson is better than Davenport to be honest. 5 sacks in limited snaps, vs 1.5 for Davenport.

K Major · 01-08-2021, 04:14 PM

Carl has looked good & has been disruptive (see Chiefs/Carolina games).

Again, in a limited role he's played extremely well.

AsylumGuido · 01-08-2021, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Cam Jordan isn’t getting any pressure on QB’s... It’s pretty much all on Davenport this weekend. Granderson ain’t there yet.

Cam Jordan is second on the team behind Hendrickson in QB Pressures (32 to 26), second in sacks (13.5 to 7.5), and second in QB Knock Downs (9 to 8). Jordan is also second on the team in QB Hurries with 10, while Davenport leads the team with 11. Hendrickson is third with 9. Jordan also leads defensive lineman in combined tackles with 51. Onyemata is second with 44. Hendrickson is fifth with 25.

I don't know what games you're watching Chris, but Cam is more than holding his own given he's getting doubled regularly.

AsylumGuido · 01-08-2021, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Granderson is better than Davenport to be honest. 5 sacks in limited snaps, vs 1.5 for Davenport.

There is more to playing defensive line than sacks, diz. Granderson has the highest percentage of missed tackles on the entire Saints team at 22.2%. Davenport, on the other hand, is only one of two defensive linemen without a missed tackle all season. Malcom Roach is the other with far fewer chances. If Davenport gets a hand on the runner he's going down every time.

dizzle88 · 01-08-2021, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There is more to playing defensive line than sacks, diz. Granderson has the highest percentage of missed tackles on the entire Saints team at 22.2%. Davenport, on the other hand, is only one of two defensive linemen without a missed tackle all season. Malcom Roach is the other with far fewer chances. If Davenport gets a hand on the runner he's going down every time.

Whilst you are correct about there's more to playing DE than sacks, he should still be getting some. 1.5 this year is utterly terrible and all I ever see Davenport doing is taking bad angles, losing contain, beating the O line but running straight past the QB.

Where has the stat come from where Davenport hasn't missed a tackle? Because I can remember a bunch of missed ones right now.

Physically he is a beast, but I've frankly lost count of the amount of times he's overran the QB or gone too high for the sack and missed completely. 2 first round picks.

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Audiotom · 01-08-2021, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Granderson is better than Davenport to be honest. 5 sacks in limited snaps, vs 1.5 for Davenport.

Davenport is forcing sacks to the middle and contain

He isn’t short changing things

Look at Cam Jordan’s first years

Kwon Alexander missing behind him is the issue
Anzalone can’t cover in the flats or work the edge

CJGJ will help shore this up

Boston Saint · 01-08-2021, 07:28 PM

I see Cam getting held on every third play he pass rushes.

AsylumGuido · 01-08-2021, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Whilst you are correct about there's more to playing DE than sacks, he should still be getting some. 1.5 this year is utterly terrible and all I ever see Davenport doing is taking bad angles, losing contain, beating the O line but running straight past the QB.

Where has the stat come from where Davenport hasn't missed a tackle? Because I can remember a bunch of missed ones right now.

Physically he is a beast, but I've frankly lost count of the amount of times he's overran the QB or gone too high for the sack and missed completely. 2 first round picks.

Right here, diz.

Saints Advanced Defense

You've been seeing thing that aren't there then. You do not have to sack the QB to majorly affect the play. I'd figure that you knew that. Putting pressure on to force the QB to move from his spot changes the designed play every time. Yeah, sacks are splashy, but keep that QB off his spot is just as important. But, if you haven't noticed, Davenport has been more important against the run which is just as important. That's where he hasn't missed a single tackle.

AsylumGuido · 01-08-2021, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

Davenport is forcing sacks to the middle and contain

He isn’t short changing things

Look at Cam Jordan’s first years

Kwon Alexander missing behind him is the issue
Anzalone can’t cover in the flats or work the edge

CJGJ will help shore this up

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I see Cam getting held on every third play he pass rushes.

Bingo! And that is Cam's importance. His teammates know he's a total stud. He gives them a chance to get their numbers. Jordan is totally unselfish and wants just one thing and that is to win. Personal glory be damned.

01-08-2021, 04:11 PM	#21
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints Wildcard Playoff Injury Report Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Cam Jordan isn’t getting any pressure on QB’s... It’s pretty much all on Davenport this weekend. Granderson ain’t there yet. Granderson is better than Davenport to be honest. 5 sacks in limited snaps, vs 1.5 for Davenport.

01-08-2021, 04:14 PM	#22
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Wildcard Playoff Injury Report Carl has looked good & has been disruptive (see Chiefs/Carolina games). Again, in a limited role he's played extremely well.

01-08-2021, 05:31 PM	#23
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Saints Wildcard Playoff Injury Report Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Cam Jordan isn’t getting any pressure on QB’s... It’s pretty much all on Davenport this weekend. Granderson ain’t there yet. Cam Jordan is second on the team behind Hendrickson in QB Pressures (32 to 26), second in sacks (13.5 to 7.5), and second in QB Knock Downs (9 to 8). Jordan is also second on the team in QB Hurries with 10, while Davenport leads the team with 11. Hendrickson is third with 9. Jordan also leads defensive lineman in combined tackles with 51. Onyemata is second with 44. Hendrickson is fifth with 25. I don't know what games you're watching Chris, but Cam is more than holding his own given he's getting doubled regularly. Rugby Saint II, Rueben Mayes and Audiotom like this.
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01-08-2021, 05:38 PM	#24
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Saints Wildcard Playoff Injury Report Originally Posted by dizzle88 Granderson is better than Davenport to be honest. 5 sacks in limited snaps, vs 1.5 for Davenport. There is more to playing defensive line than sacks, diz. Granderson has the highest percentage of missed tackles on the entire Saints team at 22.2%. Davenport, on the other hand, is only one of two defensive linemen without a missed tackle all season. Malcom Roach is the other with far fewer chances. If Davenport gets a hand on the runner he's going down every time. Audiotom likes this.

01-08-2021, 05:55 PM	#25
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints Wildcard Playoff Injury Report Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There is more to playing defensive line than sacks, diz. Granderson has the highest percentage of missed tackles on the entire Saints team at 22.2%. Davenport, on the other hand, is only one of two defensive linemen without a missed tackle all season. Malcom Roach is the other with far fewer chances. If Davenport gets a hand on the runner he's going down every time. Whilst you are correct about there's more to playing DE than sacks, he should still be getting some. 1.5 this year is utterly terrible and all I ever see Davenport doing is taking bad angles, losing contain, beating the O line but running straight past the QB. Where has the stat come from where Davenport hasn't missed a tackle? Because I can remember a bunch of missed ones right now. Physically he is a beast, but I've frankly lost count of the amount of times he's overran the QB or gone too high for the sack and missed completely. 2 first round picks.
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01-08-2021, 07:15 PM	#27
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Wildcard Playoff Injury Report Originally Posted by dizzle88 Granderson is better than Davenport to be honest. 5 sacks in limited snaps, vs 1.5 for Davenport. Davenport is forcing sacks to the middle and contain He isn’t short changing things Look at Cam Jordan’s first years Kwon Alexander missing behind him is the issue Anzalone can’t cover in the flats or work the edge CJGJ will help shore this up

01-08-2021, 07:28 PM	#28
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints Wildcard Playoff Injury Report I see Cam getting held on every third play he pass rushes. Rugby Saint II, Rueben Mayes and Audiotom like this.

01-08-2021, 08:48 PM	#29
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Saints Wildcard Playoff Injury Report Originally Posted by dizzle88 Whilst you are correct about there's more to playing DE than sacks, he should still be getting some. 1.5 this year is utterly terrible and all I ever see Davenport doing is taking bad angles, losing contain, beating the O line but running straight past the QB. Where has the stat come from where Davenport hasn't missed a tackle? Because I can remember a bunch of missed ones right now. Physically he is a beast, but I've frankly lost count of the amount of times he's overran the QB or gone too high for the sack and missed completely. 2 first round picks. Right here, diz. Saints Advanced Defense You've been seeing thing that aren't there then. You do not have to sack the QB to majorly affect the play. I'd figure that you knew that. Putting pressure on to force the QB to move from his spot changes the designed play every time. Yeah, sacks are splashy, but keep that QB off his spot is just as important. But, if you haven't noticed, Davenport has been more important against the run which is just as important. That's where he hasn't missed a single tackle.

01-08-2021, 08:51 PM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Saints Wildcard Playoff Injury Report Originally Posted by Audiotom Davenport is forcing sacks to the middle and contain He isn’t short changing things Look at Cam Jordan’s first years Kwon Alexander missing behind him is the issue Anzalone can’t cover in the flats or work the edge CJGJ will help shore this up Originally Posted by Boston Saint I see Cam getting held on every third play he pass rushes. Bingo! And that is Cam's importance. His teammates know he's a total stud. He gives them a chance to get their numbers. Jordan is totally unselfish and wants just one thing and that is to win. Personal glory be damned. Rugby Saint II likes this.