Trey Hendrickson out for Saints on Sunday

jeanpierre · 01-08-2021, 09:41 PM

Hendrickson has been our best DE this year; this hurts...

But if he's hurt, he's not playing at the level that he has been so either way he'd be out for the game...

Get well, Trey; your teammates have got to step and give you an opportunity in the next stage of the tournament...

FinSaint · 01-09-2021, 07:36 AM

Shame, but it won't make a huge difference. It was more important to get Brown back to the interior and the Saints are very healthy there now with really good rotation.

blackangold · 01-09-2021, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Hendrickson has performed well, but he is not our best DE. He is the recipient of the pressure by others. He's the dude that's been in the right place at the right time. You line Granderson up in the exact same spot on the same plays and he'd be right there too.

How do you know that?

Did coaches tell you Hendrickson offers no better performance than any other DE?

Seems like he is the starter for a reason and displaced a big time 1st round pick to be the guy.

AsylumGuido · 01-09-2021, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

How do you know that?

Did coaches tell you Hendrickson offers no better performance than any other DE?

Seems like he is the starter for a reason and displaced a big time 1st round pick to be the guy.

Cam Jordan is our best all round DE. That's why he attracts the double teams. So, basically, the offensive line coaches across the league told me Jordan is the best DE on the team. I'll guarantee you if you asked any player or coach on the Saints they'd say the same thing.

Snap counts also signify who's best. Jordan has been in for 78.01% of defensive snaps. Hendrickson is second for DE's at 53.35%.

jeanpierre · 01-09-2021, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Cam Jordan is our best all round DE. That's why he attracts the double teams. So. basically, the offensive line coaches across the league told me Jordan is the best DE on the team. I'll guarantee you if you asked any player or coach on the Saints they'd say the same thing.

Cam Jordan is older and has been injured this year; he was struggling against backup offensive linemen during the regular season; he's not been the elite defensive end he's been the past three seasons...

AsylumGuido · 01-09-2021, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Cam Jordan is older and has been injured this year; he was getting struggling against backup offensive linemen during the regular season...

And he still remains the one drawing double teams and taking part in 50% more snaps than the next closest DE.

jeanpierre · 01-09-2021, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And he still remains the one drawing double teams and taking part in 50% more snaps than the next closest DE.

He wasn't drawing double teams this year like he was in past seasons; he struggled more this season, especially vs backup offensive linemen...

AsylumGuido · 01-09-2021, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

He wasn't drawing double teams this year like he was in past seasons; he struggled more this season, especially vs backup offensive linemen...

He may not be drawing as many double teams, but he is definitely still drawing more than any other exterior lineman on our team. All said and done, whether you like it or not, JP, Cam Jordan is still our best DE. Is he as good as he's been in the past? No. But he's still the best all round DE on the team.

AsylumGuido · 01-09-2021, 03:05 PM

Henrickson's strength is the pass rush. That is clear. That's why he's in there on passing downs. Davenport is a better run defender and that's why he's in there more often in those situations. Jordan is in there in most all situations. He is by far more versatile.

blackangold · 01-09-2021, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Cam Jordan is our best all round DE. That's why he attracts the double teams. So, basically, the offensive line coaches across the league told me Jordan is the best DE on the team. I'll guarantee you if you asked any player or coach on the Saints they'd say the same thing.

Snap counts also signify who's best. Jordan has been in for 78.01% of defensive snaps. Hendrickson is second for DE's at 53.35%.

I disagree

Cam Jordan is easily the worst DE on the team. Granderson should be starting there.

01-08-2021, 09:41 PM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Trey Hendrickson out for Saints on Sunday Hendrickson has been our best DE this year; this hurts... But if he's hurt, he's not playing at the level that he has been so either way he'd be out for the game... Get well, Trey; your teammates have got to step and give you an opportunity in the next stage of the tournament... blackangold and gosaints1 like this.

01-09-2021, 07:36 AM	#12
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Re: Trey Hendrickson out for Saints on Sunday Shame, but it won't make a huge difference. It was more important to get Brown back to the interior and the Saints are very healthy there now with really good rotation. Rugby Saint II, bobdog86 and K Major like this.

01-09-2021, 02:30 PM	#13
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Trey Hendrickson out for Saints on Sunday Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Hendrickson has performed well, but he is not our best DE. He is the recipient of the pressure by others. He's the dude that's been in the right place at the right time. You line Granderson up in the exact same spot on the same plays and he'd be right there too. How do you know that? Did coaches tell you Hendrickson offers no better performance than any other DE? Seems like he is the starter for a reason and displaced a big time 1st round pick to be the guy.

01-09-2021, 02:46 PM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Trey Hendrickson out for Saints on Sunday Originally Posted by blackangold How do you know that? Did coaches tell you Hendrickson offers no better performance than any other DE? Seems like he is the starter for a reason and displaced a big time 1st round pick to be the guy. Cam Jordan is our best all round DE. That's why he attracts the double teams. So, basically, the offensive line coaches across the league told me Jordan is the best DE on the team. I'll guarantee you if you asked any player or coach on the Saints they'd say the same thing. Snap counts also signify who's best. Jordan has been in for 78.01% of defensive snaps. Hendrickson is second for DE's at 53.35%. MistaBigXXL and blackangold like this.

01-09-2021, 02:51 PM	#15
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Trey Hendrickson out for Saints on Sunday Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Cam Jordan is our best all round DE. That's why he attracts the double teams. So. basically, the offensive line coaches across the league told me Jordan is the best DE on the team. I'll guarantee you if you asked any player or coach on the Saints they'd say the same thing. Cam Jordan is older and has been injured this year; he was struggling against backup offensive linemen during the regular season; he's not been the elite defensive end he's been the past three seasons...

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01-09-2021, 02:54 PM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Trey Hendrickson out for Saints on Sunday Originally Posted by jeanpierre Cam Jordan is older and has been injured this year; he was getting struggling against backup offensive linemen during the regular season... And he still remains the one drawing double teams and taking part in 50% more snaps than the next closest DE. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-09-2021, 02:55 PM	#17
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Trey Hendrickson out for Saints on Sunday Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And he still remains the one drawing double teams and taking part in 50% more snaps than the next closest DE. He wasn't drawing double teams this year like he was in past seasons; he struggled more this season, especially vs backup offensive linemen...

01-09-2021, 03:01 PM	#18
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Trey Hendrickson out for Saints on Sunday Originally Posted by jeanpierre He wasn't drawing double teams this year like he was in past seasons; he struggled more this season, especially vs backup offensive linemen... He may not be drawing as many double teams, but he is definitely still drawing more than any other exterior lineman on our team. All said and done, whether you like it or not, JP, Cam Jordan is still our best DE. Is he as good as he's been in the past? No. But he's still the best all round DE on the team. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-09-2021, 03:05 PM	#19
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Trey Hendrickson out for Saints on Sunday Henrickson's strength is the pass rush. That is clear. That's why he's in there on passing downs. Davenport is a better run defender and that's why he's in there more often in those situations. Jordan is in there in most all situations. He is by far more versatile.

01-09-2021, 03:54 PM	#20
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Trey Hendrickson out for Saints on Sunday Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Cam Jordan is our best all round DE. That's why he attracts the double teams. So, basically, the offensive line coaches across the league told me Jordan is the best DE on the team. I'll guarantee you if you asked any player or coach on the Saints they'd say the same thing. Snap counts also signify who's best. Jordan has been in for 78.01% of defensive snaps. Hendrickson is second for DE's at 53.35%. I disagree Cam Jordan is easily the worst DE on the team. Granderson should be starting there.