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saintsfan1976 07-27-2021 06:42 PM
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I like our roster this year too.

O line is potentially top 5. Interior D line is sneaky good (more depth than you think) and boy do we have a lot to throw at a QB from the edges!

Pass catchers - Callaway is underrated. Deonte another matchup nightmare. Then you factor in Kamara, Hill and Trautman... I'm a believer.

Secondary seems patchwork. Not as confident here. Camp will show a lot but it feels like there's still another domino to fall.

Special Teams shouldn't be a concern.

QB.... prove them all wrong Jameis. I will laugh with you!

jeanpierre 07-28-2021 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 923861)
I like our roster this year too.

O line is potentially top 5. Interior D line is sneaky good (more depth than you think) and boy do we have a lot to throw at a QB from the edges!

Pass catchers - Callaway is underrated. Deonte another matchup nightmare. Then you factor in Kamara, Hill and Trautman... I'm a believer.

Secondary seems patchwork. Not as confident here. Camp will show a lot but it feels like there's still another domino to fall.

Special Teams shouldn't be a concern.

QB.... prove them all wrong Jameis. I will laugh with you!
We literally have the same DBs as last year with the exception of Paulson Adebo for Janoris Jenkins; and now have an abundance of NBs with Poole...

Callaway hasn't shown he can stay healthy; Tre'Quan is in the last year of his rookie contract, and still looks like a rookie; Deonte is special, but limited by his height...

Until we see what Baker is all about, have no confidence in this WR group as it is; Trautman was an unnecessarily expensive, but solid pick and should do well...

IF there's any truth to bringing back Brandin Cooks, who's on an affordable contract and knows he's an elite WRz, not a WRx (as Harris isn't), Sean needs to get it done...

K Major 07-28-2021 10:07 AM
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Don't sleep on Chris Hogan ...

Could be a chain mover in this offense. Was watching some of his film, has good hands, runs solid routes and has the ability to make the tough catch in traffic.

Let's evaluate @ training camp. Maybe he sticks.

jeanpierre 07-28-2021 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923868)
Don't sleep on Chris Hogan ...

Could be a chain mover in this offense. Was watching some of his film, has good hands, runs solid routes and has the ability to make the tough catch in traffic.

Let's evaluate @ training camp. Maybe he sticks.
Major's right; that great season Hogan had with the Patriots, Belichick moved Hogan all over (WRx, WRz, WRs) to counter injured players; tremendous get for Sean...

AsylumGuido 07-28-2021 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923883)
Major's right; that great season Hogan had with the Patriots, Belichick moved Hogan all over (WRx, WRz, WRs) to counter injured players; tremendous get for Sean...
This could be the piece we need over some higher profile cap intensive option.

I'm all in on this one! As you said, it can address multiple concerns at WR, JP!

jeanpierre 07-28-2021 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923898)
This could be the piece we need over some higher profile cap intensive option.

I'm all in on this one! As you said, it can address multiple concerns at WR, JP!
We still have to have three legit threats to start at each position; Hogan is not a feature guy, but he can get the job done week to week as guys are banged up...

He's the type of player with an athletic ceiling, but he's maximized his conditioning and skills and he will always be prepared and where he's supposed to be...

saintsfan1976 07-29-2021 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923864)
We literally have the same DBs as last year with the exception of Paulson Adebo for Janoris Jenkins; and now have an abundance of NBs with Poole...

Callaway hasn't shown he can stay healthy; Tre'Quan is in the last year of his rookie contract, and still looks like a rookie; Deonte is special, but limited by his height...

Until we see what Baker is all about, have no confidence in this WR group as it is; Trautman was an unnecessarily expensive, but solid pick and should do well...

IF there's any truth to bringing back Brandin Cooks, who's on an affordable contract and knows he's an elite WRz, not a WRx (as Harris isn't), Sean needs to get it done...
Yes, same DBs but no one started at CB 2 with any real effectiveness. See Payton's comment yesterday - "MUST"

Keep in mind our O line can be elite. If that hold true, someone will be open every play.

Pass on Cooks. Big on Trautman (expensive....whut?)

Rugby Saint II 07-29-2021 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 923926)
Yes, same DBs but no one started at CB 2 with any real effectiveness. See Payton's comment yesterday - "MUST"

Keep in mind our O line can be elite. If that hold true, someone will be open every play.

Pass on Cooks. Big on Trautman (expensive....whut?)




If I remember correctly we spent a third round picks up but we did move up and I'm not sure what the compensation was for moving up.

AsylumGuido 07-29-2021 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 923961)

If I remember correctly we spent a third round picks up but we did move up and I'm not sure what the compensation was for moving up.
They traded the seventh rounder (244th overall) from Cleveland, along with their own fourth- (130), fifth- (169) and sixth-round (203) picks for pick number 105 in the third round. Seems like a good deal to me to get what is now a starting TE. There's no guarantee that any of the traded picks would have fielded a starting player.

halloween 65 07-29-2021 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923963)
They traded the seventh rounder (244th overall) from Cleveland, along with their own fourth- (130), fifth- (169) and sixth-round (203) picks for pick number 105 in the third round. Seems like a good deal to me to get what is now a starting TE. There's no guarantee that any of the traded picks would have fielded a starting player.
Not saying your opinion is wrong but on the flip side with all of those picks given up for a single player we could have hit on possibly all of them, their are plenty of players drafted around those times not including undrafted that have had solid to great careers in the league. I think alot of that is laziness on the scouting department and coaches. From Pierre Thomas to Tom Brady.


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