2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

jeanpierre · 01-11-2021, 07:47 AM

Yes, that's the Saints, all the way to the left, hard left...

There's still a lot of wiggling - guaranteeing contracts, rolling debt into future, possible increase in salary cap (though currently not expected), trading off assets in restructured deals...

I'd look for the Dolphins, Redskins, Chargers, and yes, the Jaguars to be among the most improved teams next year...

If the Browns can get rid of locker room cancer OBJ, getting assets and cap space in return - they'll be the tema in the NFC North...

And the Redskins look like they have a gem in quarterback Taylor Heinicke who sure looked poised in the Redskins' playoff game...

Saints need to take a hard look at older, expensive over-valued contracts - winning a title would make it easier to jettison them, but will they do it?

With players like Trey Hendrickson, Ryan Ramczyk, Marshon Lattimore the next in the future of the franchise, financial realities are coming...

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SmashMouth · 01-11-2021, 10:58 AM

If Brees truly retires, doesn't the cap treat retirement $ differently?

RefsRobbedUs · 01-11-2021, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

If Brees truly retires, doesn't the cap treat retirement $ differently?

This is what I'm confused about but Drew's contract may be one that rewards him if he retires and hurts us. Great agent if so.

AsylumGuido · 01-11-2021, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

If Brees truly retires, doesn't the cap treat retirement $ differently?

All future guarantees hit the cap immediately (more or less).

AsylumGuido · 01-11-2021, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

This is what I'm confused about but Drew's contract may be one that rewards him if he retires and hurts us. Great agent if so.

That's nothing unique about Brees' contract. All contracts with guarantees work the same way.

neugey · 01-11-2021, 12:42 PM

You can have lots of cap space, loyal fans and play in a major market but if you've got lousy ownership/management then none of that matters and you're still bound for disaster. The Knicks in a nutshell.

K Major · 01-11-2021, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

You can have lots of cap space, loyal fans and play in a major market but if you've got lousy ownership/management then none of that matters and you're still bound for disaster. The Knicks in a nutshell.

Precisely.

See the Jags and Jets

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AsylumGuido · 01-11-2021, 01:11 PM

Cap space and loads of draft picks are over-rated. You can just look at the Vikings as for draft pick hoarding. The Saints get more impact with four picks than the Vikings get with 15.

lee909 · 01-11-2021, 07:03 PM

Drews cap can be split over 2 years if needed. It's just about timing his retirement. Still means alot of dead money. The cap not jumping like expected will hit the team hard

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Yes, that's the Saints, all the way to the left, hard left... There's still a lot of wiggling - guaranteeing contracts, rolling debt into future, possible increase in salary cap (though currently not expected), trading off assets in restructured deals... Twitter I'd look for the Dolphins, Redskins, Chargers, and yes, the Jaguars to be among the most improved teams next year... If the Browns can get rid of locker room cancer OBJ, getting assets and cap space in return - they'll be the tema in the NFC North... And the Redskins look like they have a gem in quarterback Taylor Heinicke who sure looked poised in the Redskins' playoff game... Saints need to take a hard look at older, expensive over-valued contracts - winning a title would make it easier to jettison them, but will they do it? With players like Trey Hendrickson, Ryan Ramczyk, Marshon Lattimore the next in the future of the franchise, financial realities are coming... SmashMouth and Thirty3 like this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,210	Re: 1 Attachment(s) You are subscribed to this thread 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs This is what I'm confused about but Drew's contract may be one that rewards him if he retires and hurts us. Great agent if so. That's nothing unique about Brees' contract. All contracts with guarantees work the same way.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: 1 Attachment(s) You are subscribed to this thread 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints You can have lots of cap space, loyal fans and play in a major market but if you've got lousy ownership/management then none of that matters and you're still bound for disaster. The Knicks in a nutshell. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 1 Attachment(s) You are subscribed to this thread 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by neugey You can have lots of cap space, loyal fans and play in a major market but if you've got lousy ownership/management then none of that matters and you're still bound for disaster. The Knicks in a nutshell. Precisely. See the Jags and Jets . jeanpierre likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,210	Re: 1 Attachment(s) You are subscribed to this thread 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Cap space and loads of draft picks are over-rated. You can just look at the Vikings as for draft pick hoarding. The Saints get more impact with four picks than the Vikings get with 15.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 1 Attachment(s) You are subscribed to this thread 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Drews cap can be split over 2 years if needed. It's just about timing his retirement. Still means alot of dead money. The cap not jumping like expected will hit the team hard Rsanders24 and jeanpierre like this.