2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

K Major · 03-08-2021, 04:17 PM

I recently read that offloading Emmanuel Sanders would save 6M against the cap in a trade & Latavius would be a little over 2.4M.

Two very good Saints players we stand a chance to lose.

AsylumGuido · 03-08-2021, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I recently read that offloading Emmanuel Sanders would save 6M against the cap in a trade & Latavius would be a little over 2.4M.

Two very good Saints players we stand a chance to lose.

But knowing we are willing to trade I would expect other teams to wait for the player to be released. They know the cap savings are the same for the Saints either way. Why give us something in return if they can get them at a lower market rate? While both were of value to us, neither demand a premium on the current reduced market. I fully expect both to be cut. Either or both could be re-signed however.

Boston Saint · 03-08-2021, 07:01 PM

Probably. Or a team may want to not take the chance of letting him hit FA and make a low round offer. BTW I read an article mentioning Mack, Bell, and Booker as replacements for Murray who all would be less than 2 million.

jeanpierre · 03-08-2021, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

But knowing we are willing to trade I would expect other teams to wait for the player to be released. They know the cap savings are the same for the Saints either way. Why give us something in return if they can get them at a lower market rate? While both were of value to us, neither demand a premium on the current reduced market. I fully expect both to be cut. Either or both could be re-signed however.

Maybe. But most "insider" columnist are reporting that the cap is not expected to climb no more next year than it did this year...

IF that turns out to be the case, then teams may be willing to trade as the Saints generally have friendly contracts for most players this season not named Peat...

It'd be one helluva gamble if you're a contender and you're a Z receiver away from getting you over the top - we learned that lesson year before last not trading for Sanders, then...

Don't know about NT, but Sanders and Murray definitely have some cap friendly numbers considering their experience and skill level...

Say a team like JAX, likely to take Trevor Lawrence; they may want to make his transition to the NFL easier by bringing in veterans who'd be less of a liability installing a new offense...

AsylumGuido · 03-09-2021, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Maybe. But most "insider" columnist are reporting that the cap is not expected to climb no more next year than it did this year...

IF that turns out to be the case, then teams may be willing to trade as the Saints generally have friendly contracts for most players this season not named Peat...

It'd be one helluva gamble if you're a contender and you're a Z receiver away from getting you over the top - we learned that lesson year before last not trading for Sanders, then...

Don't know about NT, but Sanders and Murray definitely have some cap friendly numbers considering their experience and skill level...

Say a team like JAX, likely to take Trevor Lawrence; they may want to make his transition to the NFL easier by bringing in veterans who'd be less of a liability installing a new offense...

Do you have any examples of those "insider" columnists' predictions of no rise in the 2022 cap? I must have missed them.

st thomas · 03-09-2021, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do you have any examples of those "insider" columnists' predictions of no rise in the 2022 cap? I must have missed them.

I read that yesterday also, cap not expected to rise even with the mega tv deals coming, u know them greedy son of britches have to recoup there chickens

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AsylumGuido · 03-09-2021, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

I read that yesterday also, cap not expected to rise even with the mega tv deals coming, u know them greedy son of britches have to recoup there chickens

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The cap is contractually (CBA) tied to revenues. The league can't share less than the agreed upon percentage. Were they referring to the 2021 cap? It shouldn't rise much more than the floor ($180 million) already determined. We may know that final figure later today. Most of the new contracts will become effective in 2023 and that is when the cap should skyrocket, but the league and the NFLPA can negotiate a proration (borrowing from future revenue) back into 2022.

jeanpierre · 03-09-2021, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do you have any examples of those "insider" columnists' predictions of no rise in the 2022 cap? I must have missed them.

Well, it may be moot now with the Dak Prescott contract...

OTC | NFL and NFLPA Look Forward to the Future Salary Cap

AsylumGuido · 03-09-2021, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well, it may be moot now with the Dak Prescott contract...

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...54929237630976

OTC | NFL and NFLPA Look Forward to the Future Salary Cap

That OverTheCap article was written back in June of 2020 and gave an example of the cap being prorated smoothly with a gradual increase annually with borrowing from the future to begin with this year's (2021) cap. Since then the plan has been adjusted to allow a greater hit (lower cap) in 2021 thus allowing greater growth beginning next year (2022). That's the explosion which has been alluded to in recent days due to the huge new contracts expected to be signed very soon with the broadcast outlets.

The minimum cap has also been adjusted upward to $180 million since Schefter's tweet back in early February.

03-08-2021, 04:17 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints I recently read that offloading Emmanuel Sanders would save 6M against the cap in a trade & Latavius would be a little over 2.4M. Two very good Saints players we stand a chance to lose. jeanpierre likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major I recently read that offloading Emmanuel Sanders would save 6M against the cap in a trade & Latavius would be a little over 2.4M. Two very good Saints players we stand a chance to lose. But knowing we are willing to trade I would expect other teams to wait for the player to be released. They know the cap savings are the same for the Saints either way. Why give us something in return if they can get them at a lower market rate? While both were of value to us, neither demand a premium on the current reduced market. I fully expect both to be cut. Either or both could be re-signed however.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Probably. Or a team may want to not take the chance of letting him hit FA and make a low round offer. BTW I read an article mentioning Mack, Bell, and Booker as replacements for Murray who all would be less than 2 million.

03-08-2021, 10:07 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido But knowing we are willing to trade I would expect other teams to wait for the player to be released. They know the cap savings are the same for the Saints either way. Why give us something in return if they can get them at a lower market rate? While both were of value to us, neither demand a premium on the current reduced market. I fully expect both to be cut. Either or both could be re-signed however. Maybe. But most "insider" columnist are reporting that the cap is not expected to climb no more next year than it did this year... IF that turns out to be the case, then teams may be willing to trade as the Saints generally have friendly contracts for most players this season not named Peat... It'd be one helluva gamble if you're a contender and you're a Z receiver away from getting you over the top - we learned that lesson year before last not trading for Sanders, then... Don't know about NT, but Sanders and Murray definitely have some cap friendly numbers considering their experience and skill level... Say a team like JAX, likely to take Trevor Lawrence; they may want to make his transition to the NFL easier by bringing in veterans who'd be less of a liability installing a new offense...
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Maybe. But most "insider" columnist are reporting that the cap is not expected to climb no more next year than it did this year... IF that turns out to be the case, then teams may be willing to trade as the Saints generally have friendly contracts for most players this season not named Peat... It'd be one helluva gamble if you're a contender and you're a Z receiver away from getting you over the top - we learned that lesson year before last not trading for Sanders, then... Don't know about NT, but Sanders and Murray definitely have some cap friendly numbers considering their experience and skill level... Say a team like JAX, likely to take Trevor Lawrence; they may want to make his transition to the NFL easier by bringing in veterans who'd be less of a liability installing a new offense... Do you have any examples of those "insider" columnists' predictions of no rise in the 2022 cap? I must have missed them.

03-09-2021, 08:54 AM	#6
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you have any examples of those "insider" columnists' predictions of no rise in the 2022 cap? I must have missed them. I read that yesterday also, cap not expected to rise even with the mega tv deals coming, u know them greedy son of britches have to recoup there chickens Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by st thomas I read that yesterday also, cap not expected to rise even with the mega tv deals coming, u know them greedy son of britches have to recoup there chickens Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The cap is contractually (CBA) tied to revenues. The league can't share less than the agreed upon percentage. Were they referring to the 2021 cap? It shouldn't rise much more than the floor ($180 million) already determined. We may know that final figure later today. Most of the new contracts will become effective in 2023 and that is when the cap should skyrocket, but the league and the NFLPA can negotiate a proration (borrowing from future revenue) back into 2022.

03-09-2021, 11:02 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you have any examples of those "insider" columnists' predictions of no rise in the 2022 cap? I must have missed them. Well, it may be moot now with the Dak Prescott contract... Twitter OTC \| NFL and NFLPA Look Forward to the Future Salary Cap

03-09-2021, 12:21 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well, it may be moot now with the Dak Prescott contract... https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...54929237630976 OTC \| NFL and NFLPA Look Forward to the Future Salary Cap That OverTheCap article was written back in June of 2020 and gave an example of the cap being prorated smoothly with a gradual increase annually with borrowing from the future to begin with this year's (2021) cap. Since then the plan has been adjusted to allow a greater hit (lower cap) in 2021 thus allowing greater growth beginning next year (2022). That's the explosion which has been alluded to in recent days due to the huge new contracts expected to be signed very soon with the broadcast outlets. The minimum cap has also been adjusted upward to $180 million since Schefter's tweet back in early February.
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