2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

Boston Saint · 04-12-2021, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

When you're using multiple picks to improve one position, you're now unable to improve others...

Regarding Kamara, trading a second the following year for a third round pick this year is one thing when you know the player is a hit, and you get him a year early...

Trading multiple picks is what I've criticized:

Mark Ingram (rookie contract) cost a second and a first - he never had 1000 RuYds / Season on his rookie contract; hated the pick, loved the free agent...

Marcus Davenport cost two first round picks and a fifth - we're still waiting on that breakout (healthy) season...

Vonn Bell cost us two, three draft picks as one of the picks traded could have been used to take David Onyemata, who also took two picks to make for his selection...

Erik McCoy cost two seconds, and a sixth; actually one of the less costly investments...

You are using hindsight to criticize. Did the Chiefs make a mistake trading up to get Mahomes? And as far as free agency, do the names Fleener, Meridith, Byrd, and Bailey ring any bells. FA signings are as risky as drafting. And trading up to get the second all time leading rusher in franchise history is hardly a mistake. You can try to knock it by dividing his career into draft vs free agent years but that’s nonsense. I’m in no way saying the saints have made every decision correct by any means. But you seem to be saying they’ve made every one wrong.

AsylumGuido · 04-12-2021, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

You are using hindsight to criticize. Did the Chiefs make a mistake trading up to get Mahomes? And as far as free agency, do the names Fleener, Meridith, Byrd, and Bailey ring any bells. FA signings are as risky as drafting. And trading up to get the second all time leading rusher in franchise history is hardly a mistake. You can try to knock it by dividing his career into draft vs free agent years but that’s nonsense. I’m in no way saying the saints have made every decision correct by any means. But seem to be saying they’ve made every one wrong.

Yup. Name me another franchise that has made every decision correct. Hell, the glorious Patriots have had a multitude of dud draft picks. They've lived off of bringing in vets on short term deals to fill a hole here or there. They've also brought some in that they cut in short order.

04-12-2021, 04:32 PM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre When you're using multiple picks to improve one position, you're now unable to improve others... Regarding Kamara, trading a second the following year for a third round pick this year is one thing when you know the player is a hit, and you get him a year early... Trading multiple picks is what I've criticized: Mark Ingram (rookie contract) cost a second and a first - he never had 1000 RuYds / Season on his rookie contract; hated the pick, loved the free agent... Marcus Davenport cost two first round picks and a fifth - we're still waiting on that breakout (healthy) season... Vonn Bell cost us two, three draft picks as one of the picks traded could have been used to take David Onyemata, who also took two picks to make for his selection... Erik McCoy cost two seconds, and a sixth; actually one of the less costly investments... You are using hindsight to criticize. Did the Chiefs make a mistake trading up to get Mahomes? And as far as free agency, do the names Fleener, Meridith, Byrd, and Bailey ring any bells. FA signings are as risky as drafting. And trading up to get the second all time leading rusher in franchise history is hardly a mistake. You can try to knock it by dividing his career into draft vs free agent years but that’s nonsense. I’m in no way saying the saints have made every decision correct by any means. But you seem to be saying they’ve made every one wrong.
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04-12-2021, 04:37 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint You are using hindsight to criticize. Did the Chiefs make a mistake trading up to get Mahomes? And as far as free agency, do the names Fleener, Meridith, Byrd, and Bailey ring any bells. FA signings are as risky as drafting. And trading up to get the second all time leading rusher in franchise history is hardly a mistake. You can try to knock it by dividing his career into draft vs free agent years but that’s nonsense. I’m in no way saying the saints have made every decision correct by any means. But seem to be saying they’ve made every one wrong. Yup. Name me another franchise that has made every decision correct. Hell, the glorious Patriots have had a multitude of dud draft picks. They've lived off of bringing in vets on short term deals to fill a hole here or there. They've also brought some in that they cut in short order.