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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; So you made a direct comment about me defending Culpepper AND this thread in a PM to ME, but the comment wasn't directed to me? Sorry, thanks for playing. I'll spend my time with those who don't directly contradict themselves ...

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Old 09-19-2005, 09:45 AM   #21
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So you made a direct comment about me defending Culpepper AND this thread in a PM to ME, but the comment wasn't directed to me? Sorry, thanks for playing. I'll spend my time with those who don't directly contradict themselves in plain view.

But I like how you addressed NONE of the points I raised, and went straight to personal shots. Good job. What about the points Scotty raised? Nothing to say there, or just personal shots at me? I don;t see where you addressed one point raised. I guess people can see this for what it is. Little advice though, the next time you want to take a "subtle" shot at someone in a thread, don't PM them and ask them why they aren't in the thread defending their point, in a thread they had not taken part in at all until you made it a point to bring them into it. Then should you choose to bring them into it, at least address what is said, and not just pull them in to take personal shots and make another argument. Clear?
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:50 AM   #22
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Here's some fun facts for Saints Whodi...then I'm done:



Aaron Brooks

Fumbles lost: 21

Interceptions: 67


Total: 89



Daunte Culpepper

Fumbles lost: 33

Interceptions: 82

Total: 115



Both have been playing significantly in 2000. Both have played roughly the same amount of games. Conclusion: Culpepper has more lost fumbles AND turnovers than Brooks in their respective careers.
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:57 AM   #23
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Ooh, stats in a vacuum, I wanna play. We are going since 2000?

Culpepper since 2000, 158 total Tds.

Brooks since 2000, 118.

Career passer rating for Culpepper 91.5

Career for Brooks 81.7

Career completion percentage for Culpepper 64.3

Career for Brook, 56.7

Career rushing yards for Brooks, 1161

Career for Culpepper, 2358

Shall we continue?
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:59 AM   #24
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Wow Gambler......
interesting........
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:59 AM   #25
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Career passing yards for Pep 19067

Career for Brooks 16466

So Culpepper has more passing yards, rushing yards, therefore total yards, a 10 point higher career passer rating even after the first two games, a higher completion percentage for his career and more total TDs? Yeah, go with Brooks.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:01 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Ooh, stats in a vacuum, I wanna play. We are going since 2000?

Culpepper since 2000, 158 total Tds.

Brooks since 2000, 118.

Career passer rating for Culpepper 91.5

Career for Brooks 81.7

Career completion percentage for Culpepper 64.3

Career for Brook, 56.7

Career rushing yards for Brooks, 1161

Career for Culpepper, 2358

Shall we continue?
That's fine and good.........but if Brooks is "Fumbles the Clown", then what is Culpepper?
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:02 AM   #27
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Runner up for league MVP. Next question. What's funny as hell to me is, only on a Saints board would two games into a new season be reason to say Brooks is better than Culpepper. You can post a poll on any forum in the free wrold that isn't a Saints forum and I am guaranteeing 90% take Culpepper. And that may be a low estimate. At any rate, what does it matter if I would take culpepper over Brooks? does that ruin someone's day? Seriously? I DON'T LIKE AARON BROOKS AND THINK HE IS A MEDIOCRE QB. Now, explain to me how any of this was supposed to change my mind.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:40 AM   #28
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While I'll agree with part of some earlier posts on the changes in Minnesota, it isn't just the changes. A lot of the fault should still go to C-pep, like I said, I was watching most of this game. Many times I saw him throw into coverage, when there was not one, but 2 guys open on the other side of the field. The last two interceptions there wasn't a vikings receiver within 10 yards of where the ball ended up. I like C-pep, he is pretty much what you look for in a QB. I hope he pulls out of this slump, but not until after the Saints game.

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Old 09-19-2005, 10:44 AM   #29
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I'm not the one ranting and raving that Culpepper is "100X" better than Brooks. And quite frankly, I never once argued that Brooks was better (you jumped the gun on that one)........I did, however, say I'd rather have Brooks than Culpepper in another thread, and I still stand by it.

You have yet to show me one single stat that shows Culpepper to be as superior to Brooks as you make him out to be. No, I'm not trying to convert you into a Brooks fan.....but I will say something when I feel he is being unjustifiably roasted at the expense of others.


Let's look at the Vikings and Saints won-loss records since 2001 (i exclude 2000 since Brooks took over around or after midseason)


Vikings- 28-36

Saints- 32-32


Playoff wins since 2001:

Culpepper - 1

Brooks - 0


Yeah, Culpepper is just light years ahead of Brooks.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:50 AM   #30
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That ONE playoff win would mean the world to us Saints' fans. We've been waiting way too long for it.

Culpepper > Brooks anyday. It's extremely interesting and weird why anyone would consider Brooks over Culpepper? That's a first for me.
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